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Originally posted by Germanicus
Originally posted by BigBruddah
reply to post by Germanicus
You say everybody hates America, when really everybody hates their government.
You say Australia cannot be invaded when that is pure bs. We are divided and can be conquered, in ww2 darwin was bombed, mt isa was next (mineral/economic hub) and then it was down to the east coast. We are nowhere near as infallible as you say we are..
Its like saying I hate Queenslanders isnt it mate>
You cane toads are obnoxious and generally not too bright.
Look at your politicians for god sake.
You are missing the point.
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Sure some happy chap is always going to pop up and say "Im Australian and most of us love America and blah blah blah.....)
Go Crocs!edit on 2-6-2012 by Germanicus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Germanicus
We could avoid attack through diplomacy.
Originally posted by EyesWideShut
reply to post by Germanicus
You're not a warrior, so don't worry about it. When and if it goes down It'll be dealt with. You can just sit back , observe & make threads on ATS critiquing the actions of others.
In this world you can either Lead, Follow, or GTFO of the way.
edit on 2-6-2012 by EyesWideShut because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by EyesWideShut
Originally posted by Germanicus
We could avoid attack through diplomacy.
Are you S***ting me?
Mr. Sato indicated that the Japanese Navy was responsible for the implementation of plans to invade and occupy Australia.
He indicated that he was always at the nerve centre of the Japanese Navy.
Mr. Sato indicated that there was a Japanese Invasion Force of many troop transports and warships heading south from Japan to make a beach landing half way between Townsville and Brisbane. Mr. Sato claimed that the air raids on Darwin, which had started on 19 February 1942, were "a feint to destroy shipping and planes".
Mr Sato had stated that the Japanese had realised that it would have been too difficult to move a large force south from Darwin and had then decided to attack the Queensland coast midway between Townsville and Brisbane. He indicated that communications were good and the population was sparse in that area of Queensland. The city of Brisbane was reportedly the first objective of this so-called Invasion Plan of Australia. It was believed that Brisbane could be taken quite readily with a minimum of cost and resistance. Sydney was the next objective and was to be attacked by land and amphibious forces. They then planned to move on to Melbourne, but by this time, they anticipated that Australia would have surrendered.
Things changed when orders were issued for the Japanese forces to take Milne Bay and Port Moresby. The Japanese were not willing to risk another operation in Australia while their supply lines were in peril. Again, according to Mr. Sato, the Japanese campaign in New Guinea used up all the forces originally intended for the invasion of Australia. Mr. Sato indicated that the Japanese had initially thought the Australian forces would be a pushover in New Guinea. This they abruptly found not to be the case.
Despite this underestimation of the Australians fighting ability, Mr Sato indicated that the Japanese believed that Australia could be persuaded to become neutral. The Japanese propaganda machine turned itself to achieving this goal.
Following the publication of this article on 1 January 1946, Mr. J.B. Chifley, the Prime Minister of Australia wrote to General Douglas MacArthur, the Supreme Commander for the Allied Powers in Japan on 21 January 1946. MacArthur immediately ordered an investigation by his military intelligence group. Mr. Sato was interrogated by US military intelligence in the presence of Major R. L. Hughes of the Australian Service Mission.
Sato indicated that the newspaper had misquoted him.
You aren't bright if you think Australia is impossible to conquer. Anyone with half a brain knows that we aren't strong in a military sense. You said New Zealand has our backs for crying out loud. If the US were to fall we would be sitting ducks.
Originally posted by feelingconnected
reply to post by Germanicus
Please do not presume that I live in the middle of no were. I live on the East coast. Country of origin is of no importance as to who I associate with Chinese , Japanese, English, Italian, greek, Samoan, kiwis etc etc does not mean I want to be them. I'm quiet happy being & staying Australian thank you . Do you really think w.a would be happy to quit being Australian ? I actually know many in the west that wouldn't agree.
Originally posted by BigBruddah
You aren't bright if you think Australia is impossible to conquer. Anyone with half a brain knows that we aren't strong in a military sense. You said New Zealand has our backs for crying out loud. If the US were to fall we would be sitting ducks.
Look at our politicians what is that supposed to mean??? 99% of politicians are idiots and that is widely acknowledged. With the crap you spew out on a daily basis your starting to sound like you're a david hicks fanboy..
Originally posted by Iamschist
Americans were asking the same questions when Europe was being run over by a blood thirsty dictator or two back in the 1940's. Your thread makes me regret the 'why should we?', group did not win that debate.edit on 2-6-2012 by Iamschist because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Germanicus
reply to post by daaskapital
Cool link. I have never seen that site
And
And yeah,I think it is probable that we will all get dragged into Americas mess. It sucks.
Originally posted by neo96
Europe is so broke right now they can't even win their war on spending so how the hell could they help anyone else?
Originally posted by feelingconnected
Anyone with half a brain would know we quiet simply could not stand alone for a lone period of time.
Originally posted by feelingconnected
reply to post by Germanicus
Look although a small percentage of what you say has merit. Being allies to the US we are a target. Mostly I believe in better the devil you know then the one you don't.
And what is it to be in your mind . That we become Chinese ? Or stand alone? As you have posted both. Anyone with half a brain would know we quiet simply could not stand alone for a lone period of time. Allies are a must but this doesn't mean living in each others pocket either.
Originally posted by ColCurious
reply to post by Germanicus
I can't (and don't want to) talk for the rest of Europe, but yes, we would and we should help.
That's what allies do isn't it? Plus we still have a debt to settle with the U.S.
Lots of GMR Luftwaffe is already on U.S. soil for joint training operations, so air defense would be one area where we could assist the United States immediately for example.
reply to post by neo96
Originally posted by neo96
Europe is so broke right now they can't even win their war on spending so how the hell could they help anyone else?
I wouldn't be so arrogant if I was U.S. American nowadays.
Germany is ahead of the U.S. in pretty much all rankings except for imprisonment per capita and military spending...edit on 2-6-2012 by ColCurious because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by BigBruddah
reply to post by Germanicus
I'm saying no nukes a small army navy and air force means we can't defend our shores without the US's help. I'm all for siding with China but they won't wait around too long for us to abandon the US, which I don't see happening. As for what Daaskapital said, in the past we were stronger but now we have a lot of catching up to do.