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Those letters / code are assigned to them by us, humans.
The process is called translation. That doesn't mean it is a computer program that encodes or translates a digital language. Clearly you are the one not understanding as you are citing sources and using the fallacy of equivocation when describing this.
FACT: Entropy has nothing to do with abiogenesis
Here's an article that references one of them. They were able to get ribonucleotides to spawn from the basic components. Again, I'm not saying this proves abiogenesis, it's just one step in what probably is a long and complicated process to go from primordial soup to RNA and eventually to modern day DNA.
Absotively. Moving forward.
Entropy. Thermodynamics. Engage in a conversation.
Actually, there is nothing obvious. Only conjecture. I would state it is problem since:
1. Measurements are only available now, after life is here,
2. These are achieved via steady state, when the universe is not steady state?
This is a quandary. ;
Please review the points. Is there anything I have written lending credence to your last question?
Originally posted by totallackey
reply to post by Barcs
Bull cookies. You called me a troll. Personal attack. And intentionally ignorant. Personal attack.
I have never claimed it is computer code. I have stated it is information. It is information, correct? That is a YES or NO question. Answer that question.
Yes, that is correct; however, the only thing done by this is a labeling by humans. The fact remains the cell performs the interpreting. The moons and rings interact with Saturn because of gravity. Are you stating there is an information transfer taking place between the two? And to equate this with the process of information translation from DNA/RNA to cell nucleotides? I do not get it.
Yes, the process is called translation. And it takes place whether we "convert," the information into something legible or not. There is no equivocation on my part.
Oh my goodness...you cannot possibly be serious. The laws of physics cease to apply?
Further, you need to share this with radix and MrXYZ...they seem to understand laws of physics are not suspended simply because...
If the formation of the RNA required outside interference (in the form of scientists in this case), what form would the experiment need to take to finally prove abiogenesis?
Entropy is still an issue because it can only be measured steadystate it can only be measured after life
There is no way to determine rates. The universe is not steady state.
Theoretical Framework An open system exchanges matter and energy with its surroundings. Most systems are open systems; like a car, coffeemaker, or computer. A closed system exchanges energy, but not matter, with its environment; like Earth or the project Biosphere2 or 3. An isolated system exchanges neither matter nor energy with its environment. A theoretical example of such system is the Universe.
Where did I say that DNA = saturn's rings? I never said that they transfer information. I said they contain information just like DNA. Cells do not INTERPRET. Look up the word.
When you say that cells actually translate information, then yes you are equivocating the process of cell translation with human translation of language. They are very different.
By "objective" evidence, I'm talking about physic tangible evidence; not that it has an objective to complete. Information theory applies to MAN MADE INFORMATION. I'm not saying that it isn't legit. I'm saying it doesn't apply to physical matter like DNA. Yes it can be helpful in organizing the code, but there’s no reason to assume that DNA is non physical.
As you can see, the system is either closed or at best considered isolated.