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A group of scientists from Finland claims to be close to a vaccine which can prevent any kind of allergy, and change the lives of millions all over the world.
“We believe that curing allergies is about changing or modifying the genetic structure of the allergen molecules inside of your body, so we want to eliminate the cause of the allergy, instead of removing symptoms,” Professor Rouvinen told Forbes magazine. After allergens are modified in the patient`s body, he will hypothetically develop a natural immunity against each type of allergy they have been vaccinated for.
65 million ( allergic people *) in the US alone
That is what I mean by environmental. The things you list like grass, plants and molds are a given and not much can be done to avoid them.
Originally posted by elouina
reply to post by HumanCondition
Most allergies are not environmental. They are often to common substances such as foods, grass, plants, common molds etc...
Anyways, avoiding my twice monthly shots would be awesome!
Originally posted by HumanCondition
reply to post by trollz
This is a very dumb idea.
If we are allergic to something there is a reason for that.
We need to remove the environmental factors that are increasing rates of allergies.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by HumanCondition
reply to post by trollz
This is a very dumb idea.
If we are allergic to something there is a reason for that.
We need to remove the environmental factors that are increasing rates of allergies.
People have always been allergic to things. Your response is the only dumb thing.
What is the reason someone is allergic to shellfish, or peanuts, or pollen. Why is it "dumb" to cure that?
According to a recent study published in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, scientists have found through analysis that one single glass of milk can contain a delightful (or not) medley of up to 20 different kinds of painkillers, antibiotics and growth hormones.
Clearly I said 'increasing rates of allergies'.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by HumanCondition
reply to post by trollz
This is a very dumb idea.
If we are allergic to something there is a reason for that.
We need to remove the environmental factors that are increasing rates of allergies.
People have always been allergic to things. Your response is the only dumb thing.
What is the reason someone is allergic to shellfish, or peanuts, or pollen. Why is it "dumb" to cure that?
I am not sure about how existent they were before the 90's but the rates tripled in the mid 90's.
Originally posted by manicminxx
Weren't peanut allergies almost non-existent in the 90s until peanut oil was used in vaccines, and then the allergy rates exploded?
Isn't it debatable that vaccines can induce certain allergies? O.o
Originally posted by MaryStillToe
Also, you probably shouldn't be so quick to call someone else's response dumb when the very next thing you do is ask a question instead of actually backing up your opinion with some solid facts. Just saying.
edit on 2-6-2012 by MaryStillToe because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by HumanCondition
Clearly I said 'increasing rates of allergies'.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by HumanCondition
reply to post by trollz
This is a very dumb idea.
If we are allergic to something there is a reason for that.
We need to remove the environmental factors that are increasing rates of allergies.
People have always been allergic to things. Your response is the only dumb thing.
What is the reason someone is allergic to shellfish, or peanuts, or pollen. Why is it "dumb" to cure that?
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by MaryStillToe
Also, you probably shouldn't be so quick to call someone else's response dumb when the very next thing you do is ask a question instead of actually backing up your opinion with some solid facts. Just saying.
edit on 2-6-2012 by MaryStillToe because: (no reason given)
Perhaps you missed the fact I was responding to THEIR calling something dumb. Just saying.
And while there may be alternate methods for reducing allergies they will still exist, so you offered nothing of value in the long run. Just saying.
Now how about you answer the meat of my post which is how is curing people of irritating/life threatening allergies dumb?
In allergies, the immune system reacts to an outside substance that it normally would ignore.
Many people have developed food insensitivies that eventually developed into a full blown allergy when they ignore the signals their body is sending them. However, I can't speak for non-food allergies.
When you have a food allergy, your immune system mistakenly identifies a specific food or a substance in food as something harmful. Your immune system triggers cells to release antibodies known as immunoglobulin E (IgE) antibodies to neutralize the culprit food or food substance (the allergen). The next time you eat even the smallest amount of that food, the IgE antibodies sense it and signal your immune system to release a chemical called histamine, as well as other chemicals, into your bloodstream.
So these doctors are proposing to change your DNA so that your body WON'T tell you that something you are eating is causing you internal harm. Ultimately, people could eat their deli meats full of chemical toxins without any symptoms while they unknowingly cause long-term damage to their bodies.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Allergies are a form of auto-immune disorder. The body has a reaction to something it SHOULDN'T.
In allergies, the immune system reacts to an outside substance that it normally would ignore.
www.nlm.nih.gov...
Another principal researcher of the early 1900s was Dr Charles Richet, the one who coined the term anaphylaxis. [4] His field was the reactions that some people seemed to have to certain foods. Richet found that with food allergies the reaction came on as the result of intact proteins in the food having bypassed the digestive system and making their way intact into the blood, via leaky gut. Foreign protein in the blood, of course, is a universal trigger for allergic reaction, not just in man but in all animals. But Richet noted that in the severe cases, food anaphylaxis did not happen just by eating a food. That would simply be food poisoning. Food anaphylaxis is altogether different. This sudden violent reaction requires an initial sensitivity involving injection of some sort, followed by a later ingestion of the sensitized food. Get the shot, then later eat the food. The initial exposure created the hypersensitivity. The second exposure would be the violent, perhaps fatal, physical event.
The first documented case of anaphylaxis was in 2641 BC, when King Menes of Egypt died from a Wasp sting.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by WhiteHat
The first documented case of anaphylaxis was in 2641 BC, when King Menes of Egypt died from a Wasp sting.
www.allergy-clinic.co.uk...
I wonder what vaccine he took, do you know?
Can't argue with stupid I suppose.
I dont think anyone is arguing they didn't exist before the 90's but this is where the concern comes in:
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by WhiteHat
The first documented case of anaphylaxis was in 2641 BC, when King Menes of Egypt died from a Wasp sting.
www.allergy-clinic.co.uk...
I wonder what vaccine he took, do you know?
Can't argue with stupid I suppose.
Increasing rates means that rates are increasing from a lower rate into a high one.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by HumanCondition
Clearly I said 'increasing rates of allergies'.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by HumanCondition
reply to post by trollz
This is a very dumb idea.
If we are allergic to something there is a reason for that.
We need to remove the environmental factors that are increasing rates of allergies.
People have always been allergic to things. Your response is the only dumb thing.
What is the reason someone is allergic to shellfish, or peanuts, or pollen. Why is it "dumb" to cure that?
Increasing rates means that allergies will persist at a lower rate even after you account for environmental factors increasing the rates. So how is this dumb?