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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Nor is it incorrect to state the US joined the wars (WW1 and WW2) of the British empire before Australia joined "our" (the United States) wars.
I assure you, not everything you read in the American history books is true. Especially considering the Pacific theatre.
Nobody is going to rewrite history books to accommodate your slighted pride over facts that make you uncomfortable.
There is a difference between denying ignorance and ignorantly denying but maybe they teach that Australia beat Japan single-handedly, I'm not familiar with Australian public education but listening to you that must be the case since there's 2 of you that concur.
Originally posted by daaskapital
Here we go. Round up for another one of daaskapital's anti-Chinese threads
I will put it in simple terms so the Chinese on ATS will understand:
Most of you are ignorant to other countries, world events, and (this is a big one) history!
Furthermore, most of you choose to remain in that state of mind, talking out of your arses, or going off what you read in Chinese history books, or Chinese sources. It doesn't cut it when it isn't real history. It doesn't cut it when others tell you about the real circumstances and provide legitimate sources.
The Chinese ignorance, and indeed, arrogance is astounding. Do you even know what type of crap most of you talk sometimes? Heck, even a moderator was talking in their ignorance yesterday, defying the very quote in which they should be enforcing.
No, i am not anti-Chinese. No i don't hate you all. I just think you's should do more research before talking crap.
Perhaps it isn't the ignorance of most of the Chinese of ATS which leads them to act like this. It may be that the arrogance is the overwhelming factor. Most of you are too arrogant for your own good. Most of you are so arrogant, you think you's are always right, and you won't listen to what others have to say. This inevitably leads to what we call, ignorance. Try researching for more, unbiased sources than quote the first thing you see as true. Try taking into account what other members have to say, than just pushing them aside, or arguing, using your bias sources.
The act of commenting without knowledge or credible sources is one that i only see Chinese on ATS do. So please, to the Chinese on ATS, Deny Ignorance
Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by daaskapital
Hang on, saying Britain "abandoned" you is rather harsh and doesn't really paint a true picture. You were not abandoned......we had our hands full at the time and were in no position to help.
Hmm........history being ignored?
Originally posted by daaskapital
Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by daaskapital
Hang on, saying Britain "abandoned" you is rather harsh and doesn't really paint a true picture. You were not abandoned......we had our hands full at the time and were in no position to help.
Hmm........history being ignored?
Considering we offered our help in return for Britain's, and the fact that they didn't deliver their word after we had, can be considered abandoning. It is the whole reason as to why we are so close to the USA today...
Originally posted by adigregorio
Notice readers how it is ignored...
The blatent hatred and racism (What else could it be? If it is racist when it is about the Chinese...)
Just because we are a melting-pot doesn't mean we don't have feelings. What the hell? Are you going to answer my question as to:
"Why the bigotry?"
That's all it is, you don't like Americans and you're gonna let everyone know how much better you are than they. (IE Arrogance)
Also, these are the types of discussions that bring ignorance to ATS not dispell it.
reply to post by daaskapital
Oh look, a moderator engaging in "Anti-Australian" discussions...
big·ot·ry
[big-uh-tree] Show IPA
noun, plural big·ot·ries.
1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
2. the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.
Originally posted by Flavian
Originally posted by daaskapital
Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by daaskapital
Hang on, saying Britain "abandoned" you is rather harsh and doesn't really paint a true picture. You were not abandoned......we had our hands full at the time and were in no position to help.
Hmm........history being ignored?
Considering we offered our help in return for Britain's, and the fact that they didn't deliver their word after we had, can be considered abandoning. It is the whole reason as to why we are so close to the USA today...
Really? So the fact we were penned in on our Island didn't have much to do with it then?
Quite a funny viewpoint considering the purpose of the thread..........
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
reply to post by daaskapital
Oh look, a moderator engaging in "Anti-Australian" discussions...
You did accuse me of bashing Australians then.
I will admit the "you'd be speaking Japanese" comment was over the top.
The fact remains Japan was on Australia's doorstep as this map shows and you had nothing but a couple of light cruisers left to fight them off with. no carriers, no battleships and precious few planes. Australians can fight as good as anyone but courage alone wouldn't have been enough to prevent the Japanese from pounding Australia's coastal cities.
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It was still Australia and the British Empire's war before it was Americas. You guys bore the brunt of it for 2 years before we entered which is why there was no Royal Australian Navy left by that point.
The "Brisbane Line" was a controversial defence proposal allegedly formulated during World War II to concede the northern portion of the Australian continent in the event of an invasion by the Japanese. Although a plan to prioritise defence in the vital industrial regions between Brisbane and Melbourne in the event of invasion had been proposed in February 1942, it was rejected by Labor Prime Minister John Curtin and the Australian War Cabinet.
MacArthur, in his own memoir Reminiscences, stated that the if an invasion did occur the Australian military had plans to establish a line of defence following the Darling River from Brisbane to Adelaide.
Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by daaskapital
That is interesting. I confess to not knowing enough about Australia (i think because, much as i love it, i will never go there as i am a pussy when it comes to creepy crawlies). So my question is this......was that a sensible line to draw? My thinking being, did that line allow Australia to keep control of the "good" parts of the land (ie arable, watered land) and gift the more inhospitable terrain to the Japanese?