"The End Game: 2012 And 2013 Will Usher In The End"

Originally posted by daskakik\

"The push for an EU fiscal union"-----I think you're a little confused, the Euro *is* the fiscal union, what they're pushing for is a closer political union with less sovereignty over national budgets.

That is what they called it in the article I posted.

And your usage of it as if it's some new idea that will save everything shows how little you understand about it.

That was the plan from the very beginning

Right which is why I said the threat of starvation was never there.

No, you didn't get that---the plan from the beginning---publicly----was to form a political union from the financial one, it's not a conspiracy, it's just what they planned. It doesn't mean anything to saving the Euro or preventing collapse or starvation.

I'm Guatemalan. You can check my posting history, I have mentioned it a few times. Yes there is a disparity between the rich and the poor but that is true all over the world and we do have a middle class.

That's great, North Korea has a middle class too. Doesn't mean I want to live there, and last time I checked, your country was featured on Save The Children commercials and has been accused of stealing and selling your nation's children to my country's gullible desperate adoptive parents. Sound like paradise to you? Not to me.

Your ignorance is showing. Minimum wage in Guatemala is actually $4100 a year (about 1/4 the US). 96% of children are enrolled in school and adult illiteracy is 24%. 66% of women and 48% of men are overweight. That is the truth, not some MSM piece made to pluck at your heart strings.

WOW, a whole quarter of the minimum wage of my country, that is unlivable and staggeringly oppressive? What an accomplishment! Your country has contracted Type 2 diabetes? What a wonderful system you have! Truly, you've made your point well. I'm booking my tickets to Guatemala and expatriating immediately.

Originally posted by 00nunya00
No, you didn't get that---the plan from the beginning---publicly----was to form a political union from the financial one, it's not a conspiracy, it's just what they planned. It doesn't mean anything to saving the Euro or preventing collapse or starvation.

Never said it was, I was talking about the Greek situation used to bring about the transition with less opposition because everyone believes the world is going to implode.

That's great, North Korea has a middle class too. Doesn't mean I want to live there, and last time I checked, your country was featured on Save The Children commercials and has been accused of stealing and selling your nation's children to my country's gullible desperate adoptive parents. Sound like paradise to you? Not to me.

Yeah a few MSM snippets show what an entire country is really like.

WOW, a whole quarter of the minimum wage of my country, that is unlivable and staggeringly oppressive? What an accomplishment! Your country has contracted Type 2 diabetes? What a wonderful system you have! Truly, you've made your point well. I'm booking my tickets to Guatemala and expatriating immediately.

It still doesn't change the fact that it doesn't fit you failed attempt at defining what a third world budget is, but you clearly pointed it out as such, which proves that you have no idea what your talking about.

Originally posted by daskakik

Originally posted by 00nunya00
No, you didn't get that---the plan from the beginning---publicly----was to form a political union from the financial one, it's not a conspiracy, it's just what they planned. It doesn't mean anything to saving the Euro or preventing collapse or starvation.

Never said it was, I was talking about the Greek situation used to bring about the transition with less opposition because everyone believes the world is going to implode.

And, you still aren't getting what I'm saying. Sigh.

Yeah a few MSM snippets show what an entire country is really like.

How convenient, you're willing to deal in MSM snippets when it proves *your* point, yet when it comes to anyone else's point, MSM snippets aren't good enough. What a winning system for you!

It still doesn't change the fact that it doesn't fit you failed attempt at defining what a third world budget is, but you clearly pointed it out as such, which proves that you have no idea what your talking about.

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When all else fails, just deny reality and end with an attempted insult. That works!

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I do get what your saying, that it was public knowledge, but it is still something that was being opposed so they orchestrated something to forced it.

I live this reality every day and you're going to try and tell me that you have a better view of it from thousands of miles away.

Please, if I apply the same logic that you are using then I could say that the guy living in the US, under a bridge with balled up newspaper to stave off hypothermia and digging through garbage for food is what life for the average american is like. Then I could say that you are denying reality when you tell me that the average american doesn't live like that.

Originally posted by daskakik
Please, if I apply the same logic that you are using then I could say that the guy living in the US, under a bridge with balled up newspaper to stave off hypothermia and digging through garbage for food is what life for the average american is like. Then I could say that you are denying reality when you tell me that the average american doesn't live like that.

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No, I would be denying reality if I tried to make it sound like the guy living under the bridge was living in paradise comparable to living in a suburban neighborhood, or that he was one of very few, or that it's stereotyping to say the US has a big homelessness issue.

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Now your putting words in my mouth. I never said the third world was paradise. I said it isn't as bad as you believe it to be. I actually stated that if the US was to fall to third world status that it would be "tough times" which is a lot more honest and accurate than your claim of the "end of the world".

And the kicker is that it probably isn't even going to happen.

Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by 00nunya00

 

Now your putting words in my mouth. I never said the third world was paradise. I said it isn't as bad as you believe it to be. I actually stated that if the US was to fall to third world status that it would be "tough times" which is a lot more honest and accurate than your claim of the "end of the world".

And the kicker is that it probably isn't even going to happen.

Who's putting words in mouths now? *I* never claimed the end of the world, I defended the wording in its figurative sense relative to the level of comfort the first world enjoys, to which you put up an argument based on its literal meaning. And much hilarity ensured.

And the real kicker is that all of your freelance web work will dry right up in the next year or two, and you'll get to find out what a third world budget really is for yourself.

Originally posted by 00nunya00
Who's putting words in mouths now? *I* never claimed the end of the world, I defended the wording in its figurative sense relative to the level of comfort the first world enjoys, to which you put up an argument based on its literal meaning. And much hilarity ensured.

Actually you said:

In my view, the first world nations turning into third world cesspools with third-world budgets for their people is as close to the end of the world as we're ever going to realistically get. Barring the ELE meteor strike or whatnot, this is it.

You placed it one step below an ELE. Now your trying to claim it was figurative to save face. No, they are your words, own up to them.

And the real kicker is that all of your freelance web work will dry right up in the next year or two, and you'll get to find out what a third world budget really is for yourself.

Not if the collapse never happens, but I already live on an actual third world budget and not that unreal post you made about illiteracy and scrounging for 1000 calories a day, that you based on some charity's advertisement designed to get you to open up your wallet.

Originally posted by daskakik

Originally posted by 00nunya00
Who's putting words in mouths now? *I* never claimed the end of the world, I defended the wording in its figurative sense relative to the level of comfort the first world enjoys, to which you put up an argument based on its literal meaning. And much hilarity ensured.

Actually you said:

In my view, the first world nations turning into third world cesspools with third-world budgets for their people is as close to the end of the world as we're ever going to realistically get. Barring the ELE meteor strike or whatnot, this is it.

You placed it one step below an ELE. Now your trying to claim it was figurative to save face. No, they are your words, own up to them.

No, you are unable to understand simile and comparison. "As close to" is not "the same as" and barring the ELE comet strike, yes, this will be the biggest thing we could ever deal with----the only one overreacting is you, trying to turn "end of the world" into someone meaning "everyone dies" because you lack imagination and nuance.

And the real kicker is that all of your freelance web work will dry right up in the next year or two, and you'll get to find out what a third world budget really is for yourself.

Not if the collapse never happens, but I already live on an actual third world budget and not that unreal post you made about illiteracy and scrounging for 1000 calories a day, that you based on some charity's advertisement designed to get you to open up your wallet.

edit on 5-6-2012 by daskakik because: (no reason given)

You're right, you know what? I wish your country would stop begging my country for aid and help all the time; perhaps you could get on with your "third world middle class" and leave the rest of us to our hard-earned money. Feed your kids so I don't have to stare at their bug-eyes on my TV anymore, and try to keep your government from stealing babies because that sh*t is tacky.

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So you have nothing but deflection even with your own words put in front of you. That's OK. The initial overreaction was the claim that the "end of the world is near". I pointed it out as such and you felt the need to defend it with overreaction of your own.

I never said the same, I said one step below, which is still overreaction on your part because it is nowhere near that level. I like how first it was "figurative speech" now it's "similar but not the same".

Yep, my country has its problems, but that still doesn't change the fact that your view of the world is based on manipulated representations and you are therefore trying to talk about things you have no clue about.

Guess I'm done here til 2014.

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Huh? Are you even in the same thread I am? So "I reject your reality and substitute it with my own" is your swan song, eh? Great. See ya in 2014, if you've still got a computer and haven't hocked it yet.

Just remembered this thread left to time and here we are 2014 and not only didn't I have to hock my computer but actually upgraded while the world chugged along. So much for those in the know.

This boys and girls is why you have to question doom porn.