I got the larger sonicator and did my first batch in it.
I ignored the (I'm sure good) advice to not do more than 2 batches (3 cups total) at a time in it since the entire point of buying the thing was to do
a lot more at one time. And because I had two theories related to this:
(a) that the larger machine was also more powerful, and for good reason, to compensate for additional depth, and
(b) that I already sonicate for the twice the time most people do and if needed I could extend that. (Note: I have long (10-20 minute) resting periods
between those to prevent overheating.)
The tank of the 2.5 liter machine holds up to 5 'batches' (which is basically 1.5 cups water plus your materials per batch, though I do my counts in
grams not cups). You'd have to do at least 2 to make the 'minimum' line on the tank. Any more than 5 would take you over the maximum line.
I learned the hard way during my first cleaning cycles that you can't pour out a whole tank of anything without massive mess. If you dumped it
abruptly enough to keep it from pouring down the side and bottom of the unit you'd splash it everywhere. So getting stuff out is best "taken" out
until the well is half empty (such as with a measuring cup or something you can use to scoop it out and pour into your containers) and then it can be
poured from the machine when there is less, without mess.
The larger unit has a lid that sets on, it is not attached, which is a lot more convenient for several reasons. One is that you can turn it and put it
'partially' on to allow more heat venting from the formula without having it completely uncovered (I like to drop cheesecloth over the top to prevent
any bugs in summer -- the occasional fly in the house seems inevitable -- but if the tank is fully open it tends to dip into the fluid in the middle
without a lot of bother with weighting bottom edges and such. The lid that can be turned so it's 'partly' covering the middle only is ideal). Another
reason is that it makes it easier to pour stuff out of it if you aren't trying to hold the lid open at the same time.
I did the baking soda test:
1oz distilled water + 1.2g (according to my baking soda label for measure) mixed well
8oz of formula
Pour water/bs into formula, stir a few times and then let sit for about 30 seconds
Measure the depth of the foam on the surface of the fluid at that point
It was 1/8" or less so I think in terms of encapsulation it went ok.
Of course, the sonicator is not about encapsulation so much; the temperature and blend of the lecithin-water and ascorbic-water will do that if the
lec temp is ~110 degrees F and the ascorbic is cold so it causes the temp to drop and the liposomes to form. (Curiously I don't much hear other people
talk about the temperature issue which confuses me since this is how the lipospheric formation, to include encapsulation of its fluid medium,
The sonicator is used to "beat up" (in a fruit-ninja game kind of way) the tiny lipospheres into ever-tinier-spheres (they re-form) because they need
to be under 200 nanometers. Any larger and the liver will take them apart before sending the phospholipids out to the body for cell membranes and
nerve sheaths. This is ok for the liver (it gets the ascorbic dumped into it when it takes the spheres apart), though it will likely reduce how much
overall formula you can take without bowel effects (as it might increase the ascorbic that ends up in the digestive system), but is not good for the
goal of getting the ascorbic to the tissues in the rest of the body (they have to get through the liver still encapsulated, and sent out into the
body, to accomplish that).
I point this out to sort of play devil's advocate with myself and say that it is possible that the extremely low volume of formula recommended even
for the bigger machine on the thread above may be correct and there is not actually any way to test for this. One can test encapsulation but you
cannot test the size of the lipospheres without some science lab equipment most of us haven't got. I have a tendency to ignore good advice and learn
the hard way on my own later and perhaps this is just another example.
For now I'm going to trust that there is still plenty of benefit to the larger batch until I get symptoms or signs otherwise.
The only problem with making it larger is you have to combine these ingredients in proportion in a blender, and I use my bullet high-speed blender
rather than my big bar blender because it's a lot easier, but it's much smaller. That means arranging the lecithin-water soaking and mixed
ascorbic-water in a number of cups each, so I can heat one lecithin cup and then pour the two together and blend, then dump that formula in the
machine or a big container and do the next 'set' of materials, until it is complete and then I can do the full batch in the machine. In theory it
would not be any more difficult to do smaller batches, it would simply take longer.
I have gradually learned the taste of this and can tell when something is more or less sour (to indicate less encapsulation %). On the whole this
seemed to come out very well as made.
During the sonicating I took a picture of the well. Not real exciting, I know.
edit on 25-7-2013 by RedCairo because: forgot something
edit on 25-7-2013 by RedCairo because: (no reason given)