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posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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I am a bit of a minority in most conspiracy circles because I believe that Israel should be a Jewish city and I believe the Palestinians are in the wrong. It makes me so mad when I see pictures on facebook supporting Palestine and all this propaganda about Israel and the Jews makes me sick it is almost like going back to the days of Hitler.

Muslims have so many countries they occupy such as Afghanistan, Dubai, Saudi arabia, Jordon, Iraq, Pakistan, most of Egypt and loads more, Jews have just one sacred city and the Muslims are trying to take it off them.

Most people use the argument well Palestinians where there first, well at one time or another most countries have been taken over, Rome took over most of the world, America was stolen from native Indians, Australia was taken from the Maori, Israel is a Jewish country and I hope always will be The Palestinians are bullies.

There is a sacred site in Israel called the Dome Of The Rock where Jewsih people believe there messiah will return and the muslims built a Mosque on it, they do not respect the mosque at all and frequently trash it.

Below is a video that most Palestinians wont want you to see.



Most of the stuff you hear about Jews and Israel is propaganda brought to you by some very powerful Muslims and Arabs who own a lot of media and news stations. Before you judge Israel please research it and make your own mind up.




posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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Wait, so you're saying that the Muslims own the media, and use it against the Jews?

That's...




posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by DEV1L79
I am a bit of a minority in most conspiracy circles because I believe that Israel should be a Jewish city....




I am gonna tell you something that might just shock you.. brace yourself... are you ready for this...
























Israel is a country.

Seriously.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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Why bother even reading a thread with the title “Long Live Israel” when Israel continues to allow the contained suffering of the people of Gaza and steal the land that is rightfully the home of the Palestinians.

Israel is the root of a lot of problems in this world.

edit on 31-5-2012 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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Oh so I suppose it is ok for the Israelis to bomb the palestinians from the sky because they are on jewish land?
I suppose its ok for the Israelis to detain Palestinians indefinately, block food aid to the west bank and build settlements then?
Just another religion-fueled holy war.

Free Palestine



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by jtap66
Wait, so you're saying that the Muslims own the media, and use it against the Jews?

That's...

Not that's not what I am saying, but there are some very powerful arabs who have top media in their pockets, your a fool if you believe mainstream media anyway.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by StrangeWayz
Oh so I suppose it is ok for the Israelis to bomb the palestinians from the sky because they are on jewish land?
I suppose its ok for the Israelis to detain Palestinians indefinately, block food aid to the west bank and build settlements then?
Just another religion-fueled holy war.

Free Palestine
It isn't all one side The Palestines are just as bad, Israel are only protecting it's land.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:35 PM
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ok I have to discredit the op with that pro-isreali propaganda video he posted so here goes below is a video most jews dont want you to see



can they have equal access to Isreal and the temple mount aswell?
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posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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By the very virtue you go by the name “DEV1L79” and you support Israel it says quite allot about you.

I don’t understand why you would write a thread that argues that due to Muslim propaganda in the media people are siding with the people of Palestine and are effectively ignorant of the “plight of the Israelis” who are being made out to be the bad guys. When you yourself in your opening statement in this thread don’t seem to even know that Israel is a state, calling for a “Jewish city” and are ignoring the fact that the majority of western media is in support of Israel.

I have to ask, why do you have such support for Israel?



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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Palestinians are second class citizens in their own country and Israel is basically part of the US with all the money (what was it? a billion over the next ten years?) they are getting from the whitehouse.
I don't think the palestinians are getting any aid from the US gov.

What do you think the Israelis are doing with that money? they are building missile "defence" systems.
why does a country smaller than Wales need that sort of weaponry? Do you know how many nukes they have? more than India. I don't hate Israelis, a lot of Israelis actually hate what their government is doing to the palestinians,

Heres a video of Rabbi Yisroel Weiss protesting against the state of israel (if it works)


I'm just saying, the Israeli government is no shining example of humanity..
edit on 31/5/2012 by StrangeWayz because: Added video



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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Insrael is a country that was formed with force after ww2. Stealing the land , followed by an aggressive stance with it's neighbors. I am sure if some native group took your city or state over and threw all of it citizens to the outskirts where no one wants to live that you would have a problem with it . Guess it would be ok for them to bomb you and shoot at you and abuse your children. Same principle they were once driven out long ago from their homes. So to you it is ok for the natives everywhere to act like brutes and show little regard for anyone but themselves to take back what was once theirs.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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I can understand views from both sides and am neither pro nor against Israel or Jews. I am against ego parastic capitalists that destroy the planet and culture and increase insanity. I find it funny that this thread started after "why have jews been disliked throughout history?" was deleted. Seems we are not allowed to discuss this on ATS even if the tread was not hateful that I could see (I could not read it to the end since it dissapered).

So read this thread quickly because if the wrong moderator sees it he will delete it because he does not like it if it becomes anti israel.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by freedomSlave
Insrael is a country that was formed with force after ww2. Stealing the land , followed by an aggressive stance with it's neighbors. I am sure if some native group took your city or state over and threw all of it citizens to the outskirts where no one wants to live that you would have a problem with it . Guess it would be ok for them to bomb you and shoot at you and abuse your children. Same principle they were once driven out long ago from their homes. So to you it is ok for the natives everywhere to act like brutes and show little regard for anyone but themselves to take back what was once theirs.
That is what I said in my OP, most countries are taken over or have been, it is just what happens in the world. I don't see Native Americans trying to "take back America" there was a war they lost and it is now Israel's.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by DEV1L79[ Australia was taken from the Maori, .



If you are going to write about history then first you should read about it



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by 12voltz

Originally posted by DEV1L79[ Australia was taken from the Maori, .



If you are going to write about history then first you should read about it
sorry I was supposed to say Aboriginee Maori was new Zeeland.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by apushforenlightment
I can understand views from both sides and am neither pro nor against Israel or Jews. I am against ego parastic capitalists that destroy the planet and culture and increase insanity. I find it funny that this thread started after "why have jews been disliked throughout history?" was deleted. Seems we are not allowed to discuss this on ATS even if the tread was not hateful that I could see (I could not read it to the end since it dissapered).

So read this thread quickly because if the wrong moderator sees it he will delete it because he does not like it if it becomes anti israel.


hey I posted on that thread and I did not know it was deleted until now. It seems some topics are ABOVE TOP SECRET and the deletion of that thread should make any reasonable person question why it was deleted makes you wonder who or where is the money behind ats coming from I have seen this trend here at ats lately that in itself has conspiracy written all over it and if this thread gets 404ed that is confirmation of a conspiracy



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 04:01 PM
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Palestinians are second class citizens in their own country and Israel is basically part of the US with all the money (what was it? a billion over the next ten years?) they are getting from the whitehouse.


Israel gets roundabout 3 billion a year from us. Palestinians are less likely to see any of that money because of the fears Islamic extremists will use it to buy weapons and use to kill civilians with, as has been proven happens before with Hamas.

I believe that if Israel is going to continue to annex their ancestral lands, they should at least let the people who own the land keep what they have and just become citizens of Israel with full rights and privaledges. A diplomatic solution could probably be reached in this way, if they would actually do that. I'm no zionist but i believe their government should not go down the same road the U.S. did when they took my ancestors lands and then put all our native american tribes in unfenced zoos. There is a better solution but neither side will concede, they want it all their own ways and you can't build a lasting peace when each opposing side would rather see the other dead than co-exist.
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posted on May, 31 2012 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
Why bother even reading a thread with the title “Long Live Israel” when Israel continues to allow the contained suffering of the people of Gaza and steal the land that is rightfully the home of the Palestinians.

Israel is the root of a lot of problems in this world.

edit on 31-5-2012 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)


And The Muslim world use it as a distraction to keep it's own population in place. If the muslism wanted the palestians to live in peace then they would have gotten a place of their own but the other contries do not seem to want them within their borders in larger number.

Face it neither Israel or the Palestians are the heroes here. If the palestians where allowed by both Israel and Muslism to succed and become a peaceful selfsustaining community then it would have happened even by force by military from muslim states keeping the peace. The palestinias also have themselfes to blame for not waking up from their conditioning and propaganda from other palestinias and saying enought is enought.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by DEV1L79

Originally posted by freedomSlave
Insrael is a country that was formed with force after ww2. Stealing the land , followed by an aggressive stance with it's neighbors. I am sure if some native group took your city or state over and threw all of it citizens to the outskirts where no one wants to live that you would have a problem with it . Guess it would be ok for them to bomb you and shoot at you and abuse your children. Same principle they were once driven out long ago from their homes. So to you it is ok for the natives everywhere to act like brutes and show little regard for anyone but themselves to take back what was once theirs.
That is what I said in my OP, most countries are taken over or have been, it is just what happens in the world. I don't see Native Americans trying to "take back America" there was a war they lost and it is now Israel's.


So then when Palestine conquer their land back it will be the jews loss. As for the natives they are not back by big Britain and big usa. Natives gonna do a hostile take over with what rocks and arrows, against the american military complex . So if I beat you out of your house it will become my house and all your possessions because I keep beating you up? What a stone age mentality
edit on 31/5/12 by freedomSlave because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 04:10 PM
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Strange nick you got there Devil
it match perfectly with the thread



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