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Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by Violater1
one question :
why did mr banks file a ` no contest plea ` - he knew he was innocent - so ????????
smething does not smell right
nnocent defendants, however, are all full of fight at the outset, but fade quickly. They get tired of having the threat of gargantuan sentences hanging over their head, the pressure of thinking, every night, all night long, about what they did to God that he would punish them this way. They think of their children without a parent for decades. They think of all the people who tell them that no one ever wins. No one.
These are the innocents who don't catch the break of making it onto the radar of law professors conducting an empirical study, because they look just like the guilty. These are the anti-innocents, because they've pleaded guilty in the hope that they won't die in prison. And you will never know who they are, and you will manufacture empirical studies that will ignore them because their conviction is so mundane that it defies your simplistic expectation that evidence proves anything.
This isn't to say that plea bargaining is a bad thing because it puts innocent defendants in prison in order to avoid the risk of trial. It's to say that theoreticians, scholars, can't tell an innocent person from a guilty person any more than a cop, judge or jury.
There's no magic to this system. It treats everybody like dirt. Got an "effect" for that?
Originally posted by Maslo... and I think courts are often biased towards convicting someone instead of finding the truth based on evidence.
Originally posted by Maslo
This is just a tip of the iceberg, and a symptom of bigger problems permeating the justice system. "Beyond reasonable doubt" is there for a reason, and I think courts are often biased towards convicting someone instead of finding the truth based on evidence. Some things that should change to prevent this:
1. abolish the existence of plea bargains, it is a form of coercion
2. the decision of both jury and judge as a legal professional should be required for conviction
3. testimonies should be considered a very weak evidence
Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
in order for this all to be right...she needs to be strapped to the chair and raped by this guy, under the supervision of the judge that sentenced him to prison. He got jail time, she got money...all that is missing is the actual rape.
Originally posted by luciddream
Originally posted by Violater1
Rape is perhaps one of the most despicable crimes against humanity that another human, can assault against another human.
You mean, Men on women rape?
There is no such thing as womens committing crime. There is no women pedophiles, there is no women serial killers or rapist.edit on 5/31/2012 by luciddream because: (no reason given)