Morgan Student Admits To Eating Missing Joppatowne Man’s Dismembered Body Parts

Originally posted by azureskys
This is starting to remind me of Stephen King's book "Cell" (2006)
Where when people answer their cell phone, some kind of signal turns them
into the epitome of crazy.

edit on 31-5-2012 by azureskys because: corrected spelling

Cell phones ARE evil. They destroy the blood brain barrier tissue, among other nasty things. It's why I don't own one and prefer all my hardware to be hardwired.

What we're dealing with here, however, are zombie outbreaks or at least that's what they call them in the books...

I'm 34 and so I grew up in the early 90s. Acid was huge then when the rave scene was new and trickling over here to the U.S. from Europe. As a teen, I went to a lot of parties and so did quite a bit of acid.

Because of this story and related stories, I'd like to add that acid is getting a bad name in the press and I can assure you, '___' does not do what the media is saying it does. I have never stripped naked because of high internal body temperature or gone into a rage. If anything, I was always kind of cold on acid, the chills, the acid belly. Blind lunacy or rage is just something I cannot believe is happening with acid. I can remember every detail of every trip I've ever taken or had. There is no black-out or behavior that is uncharacteristic to oneself. You may see some weird $!@%, but trust me, you aren't going to eat people's faces off, even during a "bad trip". I've had bad trips before and the thing is, you are completely aware of that fact and pretty much just make yourself keep counting down the hours until you know it'll wear off. '___' is an internal barometer of you as a whole, as a person, you trip according to your psyche and the influence of others. People on acid tend to avoid contact with those not tripping, as it feels weird, "people are strange when you're a stranger." '___' opens the third eye. Just ask anyone who has ever tripped with others. You will share the same visual and auditory hallucinations, no matter how many are in your group. Telepathy is common, as is precognition. Yet no matter what, I've never, ever heard of someone doing the kind of things that is being blamed on '___'. If this was the case, wouldn't the "Summer of Love" had been dubbed something entirely different?

I'm not saying that people don't lose it on '___', but it is of the wild jumping-off-a-building variety, not cannibalism. It just isn't the kind of drug that induces that state. Trust me. During bad trips, I've seen walls come apart from ceilings, devil faces come at me through shower curtains, huge UFOs follow me and a friend down a country road.... during good trips, I thought I was riding on Gumby's shoulder once, and really believed before that I was the reigning disco goddess supreme, and was alive and living in 1969 while tripping at a Dead show. Though all of this can be perceived or believed, it is not the whole of the experience, it is sort of a parallel belief running concurrent to reality. You can see, hear, feel all of this stuff, but you understand what is going on, you are still anchored into reality. I've known people who have literally lost their minds, burnt out from acid, who had to be locked up for 6-12 month in a psych ward for doing too many 10-strips, and they aren't killing anyone. I stopped doing acid in 1996, just stopped being fun "Never acid again ... acid again ... Never acid again ... acid again " (Meat Beat Manifesto).

Bath salts are not '___'. I've seen documentaries on bath salts and yes, that stuff is wicked. Would not want to be a teen of today with all the weird stuff that is out there, just wouldn't. If kids or unsuspecting others are being told they're taking '___', then doing weird crap and telling others that's what they were taking, then I guess it would make sense that it is being blamed. But no way in the world was this acid.

While I am open to the possibility that "Something" might be "going on", my personal opinion so far is never the less that I think there is nothing "going on" at all with the cannibalistic examples that have been running in the ATS-threads lately, as such events have always happened. I have followed such events with an interest for quite some years. and I can assure that they are not anything new at all.
Actually, such events have for many decades happened on a regular basis in, for instance, Russia, which for some reason seems to be the free zone for cannibals, even today.

The only reason, (Again, in my opinion so far) that people are reacting with "OMG what is happening" is because they simply haven't been aware of such matters until now and, in turn making cases like these seem new when those thinking it is new is looking further specifically for such cases. If people would have looked specifically for canibalistic attacks or murders five years ago, they would have found them back then, too, and several of them aswell.

reply to post by mountaingirl1111


i just want to add that the investigators don't even know if drugs are involved at ALL. they keep saying bath salts as if they know that's exactly what happened. tox reports take a MONTH and even then it might not be conclusive. these people might just be plain old crazy. it does happen and it's been happening. we just don't usually talk about it in the news..... until now because crazy stories make good headlines.

Originally posted by Nightchild

The only reason, (Again, in my opinion so far) that people are reacting with "OMG what is happening" is because they simply haven't been aware of such matters until now and, in turn making cases like these seem new when those thinking it is new is looking further specifically for such cases.

Allow me to disagree, the thing that makes these cases stand out is the simple fact that most cannibalistic murders even in Russia happen in total secrecy - do you agree?

What is special about these (fairly) new incidents is the complete lack of common murder rituals like doing it alone, in the woods or somewhere remote, hiding the (rest of the) body, not telling anyone about it etc. All of a sudden the crazies got crazier so you get a mother who eats her baby´s brain while grandma and aunty are in the kitchen making dinner ... a guy on a full bus beheading another passenger and showing his head to everybody ´hey guys look what i´ve got´ ... a man taking his clothes off at 2 pm, eating another man´s face and continues to do so when the police arrives ... a gay pornstar who tapes his necrophiliac fantasy and sends parts of the body to some politicians and the tape of the murder to the media ... a student who eats parts of his roommate and stashes some of it in his parent´s basement, not hiding it .. a man throwing his own intestines at the police ... those things are stranger than strange.

Originally posted by pasiphae
reply to post by mountaingirl1111

 

i just want to add that the investigators don't even know if drugs are involved at ALL. they keep saying bath salts as if they know that's exactly what happened. tox reports take a MONTH and even then it might not be conclusive. these people might just be plain old crazy. it does happen and it's been happening. we just don't usually talk about it in the news..... until now because crazy stories make good headlines.

Well, that's why I referenced the other story (maybe I didn't do that well enough, sorry ), because it's been inferred in this one and it's being blamed like wild for the other one. I also find it interesting that they are using the terms "'___'" and bath salts interchangeably when they are NOT the same thing, even if the labels liken each type of bath salt to a certain street drug. Who knows what was going on in the other case of the "face eater" or this one, but I am 99% positive it has nothing to do with '___'.

reply to post by mountaingirl1111


Yeah, you'd think there would be a big red Warning on TV about this. A massive Recall on this brand of bath salts or whatever it is.

Originally posted by CaptainLJB
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Yeah, you'd think there would be a big red Warning on TV about this. A massive Recall on this brand of bath salts or whatever it is.

From what I've seen, they're all wicked. I saw a documentary once about them and one of the stories involved a dad who had lost his son due to them. Can't recall the type, but the kid had taken bath salts and the kid cut his throat in his bedroom. The parents found him, took him to the er, stitched him up, took him home, then he stood at the kitchen window freaking out that cops came for him (no one was there). So, he stabbed himself to death.

I've also read about men cutting their penises off, all kinds of things. Bath salts are the problem that the law and govt always touted psychedlics to be but weren't, so I'm sure they're getting off on blaming this on some bad '___'/bath salts! Seriously though, DO NOT take those bath salts boys and girls.

reply to post by mountaingirl1111


What the hell do they Put in bath salts, '___'? The last time I put anything in my bath water was decades ago, and that was just for a simple bubble bath.

We'll probably read in the news next that some wackos are smoking or injecting themselves with bath salts...

reply to post by Nightchild


As I postulated in another thread the media might be sensationalizing these (not new) occurences to draw attention away from the fact that the global economy is teetering on the edge of the abyss, or to provide a distraction from something else

Originally posted by CaptainLJB
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What the hell do they Put in bath salts, '___'? The last time I put anything in my bath water was decades ago, and that was just for a simple bubble bath.

We'll probably read in the news next that some wackos are smoking or injecting themselves with bath salts...

That's the funny thing about bath salts, they're not bath salts at all. They LOOK like bath salts, colored crystals in either a packet or small jar, but they are smoked, shot up, or snorted. You cannot get high, as far as I know, from actual bath salts, which is misleading much of the public.

The effects are very similar to PCP, which is why the hallucinations are much more dangerous than anything you would get from acid. And, as far as them using '___' and bath salts as interchangeable terms, it is wrong. '___' does not make people violent like the govt or media would have us think. As a veteran of early 90s psychedelics, I can assure you, '___' trips, even "bad" ones, do not elicit the response being seen in these odd stories. The inhuman behavior that keeps getting blamed on acid is bizarre.

So here is a bit of info on bath salts, since you and many others are taking the drug name at face value. I, too, thought it was about actual bath salts until the news here in the Denver area did a story on it a year or so ago.

A picture of common bath salts packets, sold behind the counter at gas stations and head shops:

webcp.ucps.k12.nc.us...

en.wikipedia.org...

"In the UK to avoid being controlled by the Medicines Act, designer drugs such as mephedrone have been described as "bath salts" or "plant food", despite the compounds having no history of being used for these purposes. Due to these inaccurate descriptions of products, it is possible that selling the compounds under these descriptions could be illegal under the Trade Descriptions Act.[26][27][28]

In the USA, similar descriptions have been used to describe mephedrone as well as methylone and methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV).[29][30] Combined with labeling that they are "not for human consumption", these descriptions are an attempt to skirt the Federal Analog Act which forbids drugs that are “substantially similar” to already classified drugs from being sold for human use.[31] In addition, MDMA and methamphetamine have also been sold labeled as bath salts.[32]"

www.nytimes.com...

reply to post by mountaingirl1111


It's got me wondering now about the label and "bathing." So these "bath salts" are in reality used to "bathe" something other than the human body, like maybe the way certain machined parts need to be "bathed" in certain chemicals after being manufactured. That's got me wondering if certain people haven't accidentally confused these salts with a more domestic variety.

reply to post by AnonymousCitizen


I just finished reading an article about Toxoplasma gondii and how it can affect the behavior of mice and humans - and it really made me wonder about all of the bizarre extreme behaviors as of late. This parasite is thought to rewire parts of the brain, and cause definite changes in behavior that increase the chances of the parasite's proliferation. It is a very enlightening article if anyone cares to take a look - www.theatlantic.com... From the Atlantic Magazine - "How Your Cat Is Making You Crazy".

I'm not saying that this particular parasite is making some people turn into flesh-eating/throwing zombies, but I wonder if some sort of parasite in general is to blame? If parasites are able to rewire the brain in the animals they inhabit to control behavior, then I think it may be a possibility. I also think that it is a possibility that parasites could be engineered to infect humans and direct their behavior. Everyone displaying this crazy behavior should definitely be tested for everything, including parasites.

This is one freaky time to be alive, for sure.

Originally posted by CaptainLJB
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It's got me wondering now about the label and "bathing." So these "bath salts" are in reality used to "bathe" something other than the human body, like maybe the way certain machined parts need to be "bathed" in certain chemicals after being manufactured. That's got me wondering if certain people haven't accidentally confused these salts with a more domestic variety.

They are a designed drug. They were sold under the name of 'bath salts', and the packaging said that was their purpose, that were not sold for human consumption, limiting the manufacturers liability.
They are a little different chemically than coc aine, making them (at first) legal to sell over the counter. Many states have made them illegal now. There is another product designed to take the place of marijuana, an herb that is treated with a chemical to mimic the effects of THC.

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Reminds me of drunks who resort to drinking wood alcohol.

So what do the low-lives do with these 'salts' - Do they inject them into the bloodstream, smoke them, eat them, what?