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The Israelites were to teach their girls to cry out against someone who raped them--especially in the city, where people would hear it.
23 "If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, 24 then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city, and the man, because he has violated his neighbor's wife. Thus you shall purge the evil from among you.
Rape is the same as murder. Hrm.
25 "But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die. 26 "But you shall do nothing to the girl; there is no sin in the girl worthy of death, for just as a man rises against his neighbor and murders him, so is this case. 27 "When he found her in the field, the engaged girl cried out, but there was no one to save her.
This is the value that was placed on virginity in a marriage--that if you took the value that men were looking for (chastity, proving lineage) then you were forced to pay for what you "stole". And don't for a moment think that some girl out there, knowing that she can have the husband she wants, wouldn't instigate this. But yeah, this is still squeamish to modern thinking, because rape could still be covered by this. Deuteronomy 22:13-30 is whole context.
28 "If a man finds a girl who is a virgin, who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her and they are discovered, 29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the girl's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall become his wife because he has violated her; he cannot divorce her all his days.
Same set-up, but more explanation on the part of the father in charge of the girl. You pay the fine, and the father doesn't have to make the girl marry you.
16 "If a man seduces a virgin who is not engaged, and lies with her, he must pay a dowry for her to be his wife. 17 "If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the dowry for virgins.
Originally posted by redneck13
There is no one standing between you and Jesus
The church should except all people
Are you saying being gay is like being handicapped?
By all means...continue in your quest to save people. I will be there to rebuff your attempts because people don't need to be saved. They need to be set free.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by sbaden
There are times in history where paintings of Christ are loving and forgiving and other times where he is depicted as condemning and damning
What point about Jesus being God did you not understand? Did you buy into all that sh*t about him being a hippy with no judgements and no laws?