Originally posted by halfoldman
reply to post by Power_Semi
Surely Jesus shall make a mockery of them too on Judgement Day.
edit on 1-6-2012 by halfoldman because: (no reason given)
Jesus isn't likely to be doing much of anything since he said himself that he was just a man who was doing what God told him.
I've had this conversation with pretty serious Christian friends of mine numerous times, and they always point out the same line spoken by Jesus in
his discussion with the Pharisee "before Abraham was I am"
"I am" is of course an ancient way of God announcing himself, so they claim that this is Jesus saying he is God. However, in the same conversation
Jesus must have said at least half a dozen times "I m just a man" "I am just obeying God" "God told me to come here" etc etc.
But that one line, even though it is out of context with everything else Jesus said in that conversation means he is God in their eyes.
And what happened after he said that? The Pharisee picked up stones to throw at him and he RAN AWAY!
It is claimed that the "I am" misunderstanding is down to a mistranslation, since the original text would be in Hebrew, which was then transalted
into Greek, then into English.
In that line is the verb Hiarakus [not sure of its spelling] which means to come before in order of rank.
So "before abraham was I am" actually means "I am is more senior to Abraham" (since the Pharisee were saying "we are the sons of Abraham, who are
you to come here and lecture us" - Jesus: "well "I am" (God) sent me, and "I am" (God) is senior to Abraham".
So, when you go to a Christian church and they pray to Jesus instead of praying to God, they are immediately breaking one of Gods main rules that you
shall pray to me and no one else.
It's a bit like Pascals wager.
Christians pray to Jesus because they believe him to be God, therefore praying to Jesus is prying to God.
But what if they're wrong and he was just a man like HE said he was.
They should remove the element of risk and just pray to God.
But they don't, so everything else from that moment onwards is contrary to Gods wishes, and they are therefore nothing to do with God at all.