Obama re-defined "militant" to mean "all military-age males in a strike zone", page


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Topic started on 29-5-2012 @ 10:55 PM by stanguilles7
An excellent, well sourced article on how the US has redefined what a 'militant' is so as to play down the amount of civilians deaths. kills civilians.


Virtually every time the U.S. fires a missile from a drone and ends the lives of Muslims, American media outlets dutifully trumpet in headlines that the dead were ”militants” – even though those media outlets literally do not have the slightest idea of who was actually killed.

They simply cite always-unnamed “officials” claiming that the dead were “militants.” It’s the most obvious and inexcusable form of rank propaganda: media outlets continuously propagating a vital claim without having the slightest idea if it’s true. This practice continues even though key Obama officials have been caught lying, a term used advisedly, about how many civilians they’re killing.

I’ve written and said many times before that in American media discourse, the definition of “militant” is any human being whose life is extinguished when an American missile or bomb detonates (that term was even used when Anwar Awlaki’s 16-year-old American son, Abdulrahman, was killed by a U.S. drone in Yemen two weeks after a drone killed his father, even though nobody claims the teenager was anything but completely innocent: “Another U.S. Drone Strike Kills Militants in Yemen”).
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www.salon.com...


Mr. Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in. It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent.

Counterterrorism officials insist this approach is one of simple logic: people in an area of known terrorist activity, or found with a top Qaeda operative, are probably up to no good. “Al Qaeda is an insular, paranoid organization — innocent neighbors don’t hitchhike rides in the back of trucks headed for the border with guns and bombs,” said one official, who requested anonymity to speak about what is still a classified program.

This counting method may partly explain the official claims of extraordinarily low collateral deaths. In a speech last year Mr. Brennan, Mr. Obama’s trusted adviser, said that not a single noncombatant had been killed in a year of strikes. And in a recent interview, a senior administration official said that the number of civilians killed in drone strikes in Pakistan under Mr. Obama was in the “single digits” — and that independent counts of scores or hundreds of civilian deaths unwittingly draw on false propaganda claims by militants.

But in interviews, three former senior intelligence officials expressed disbelief that the number could be so low. The C.I.A. accounting has so troubled some administration officials outside the agency that they have brought their concerns to the White House. One called it “guilt by association” that has led to “deceptive” estimates of civilian casualties. “It bothers me when they say there were seven guys, so they must all be militants,” the official said. “They count the corpses and they’re not really sure who they are.”


Secret ‘Kill List’ Proves a Test of Obama’s Principles and Will

www.nytimes.com...


reply posted on 30-5-2012 @ 12:17 AM by Ex_CT2
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That is a truly bloodthirsty philosophy for a President. I guess once you join the globalists you've made your choice and there's no going back....



reply posted on 2-6-2012 @ 07:41 AM by kosmicjack
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And how long until this justification is applied on U.S. soil? I mean, they did it with "terrorist" and "insurgent" (as it pertains to Occupiers). Policies and tech used in a war zone eventually get imported and used on U.S. citizens. (LRAD, drones, detention w'out trial). The police state never recedes, it only spreads. Unless stopped.


reply posted on 2-6-2012 @ 08:02 AM by FlyInTheOintment
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I don't think I've ever read a more ?????? comment in my life.

You're basically smoothing over the atrocities with an 'end justifies the means' philosophy, albeit twisted and distorted to appear noble.

Here's hoping that your unusual mindset remains a minority opinion. Can you honestly believe that the US War Machine gives a crap about reducing the number of times they go to war? They LIKE war. Get it yet? They are AIMING for destabilisation of the global status quo. They are NOT learning anything - simply propagating their agenda, while the rest of us stand around blinking in the sunshine, hoping for better days.

I don't know what else to say in the face of your comment. If you were below-average intelligence I might understand it, but your syntax demonstrates that you aren't.

Really, I'm at a loss for words. Which is unusual for me.


reply posted on 2-6-2012 @ 08:59 AM by beezzer
Originally posted by kosmicjack
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And how long until this justification is applied on U.S. soil? I mean, they did it with "terrorist" and "insurgent" (as it pertains to Occupiers). Policies and tech used in a war zone eventually get imported and used on U.S. citizens. (LRAD, drones, detention w'out trial). The police state never recedes, it only spreads. Unless stopped.


That's a very "Militant" thing to say-


reply posted on 2-6-2012 @ 12:04 PM by stanguilles7
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You should re-read his comment. I think you completely misunderstood it.



reply posted on 3-6-2012 @ 03:11 PM by FlyInTheOintment
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No, his meaning is quite clear, and I stand by what I wrote. I did re-read just to be sure, and I found the same thing I found last time.

He seems to have no understanding of the actual nature of the hand that is guiding US military policy and decisions relating to 'going to war'.

There is no hope for us if people fail to see the reality of the situation that has been unfolding for over a decade now.


reply posted on 8-6-2012 @ 09:08 PM by floorplans
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Nice to see these things exposed. nothing is ever changed as these things have been going on since the invention of the press.
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