reply to post by adjensen
I went digging through some of my boxes and found my notes. These come from my studies of these subjects over the years. While they should be
acurate, I still recommend everything I post be investigated.
What you describe is the nature of 'good', the fact that there can exist an 'absence of good' still places it within the duality camp. According to
the Bible and Gnostics (including Christian) though not all mind you, God is transcendent even though both 'good' and 'evil' come from God.
The fallowing verses from the Bible show the nature of duality and from whence they come (The One) :
Eccles. 7:14, Lament. 3:38, Job 2:10, Deut. 32:39-43, Isaiah 45:7 (Light and Darkness), Gen. 50:20, Exo. 4:11
The Gnostic Christian Writtings (and the non-Christian ones) in the Nag Hammadi also display the same understanding, for example, in the Tripartite
Tractate, The Father is described to be "singular while being many", this fits in accord to Gen. 1:26 in use of the 'royal we' and also is in accord
to Kabbalic understanding and also sheds light on how anything can originate from God without compremising the Oneness of God. The Pattern of how the
'Two' come from the 'One' is described in Eugnostos the Blessed, the following is a description of the Divine Pattern, "As I said before, about what
was produced, the One, then the Two, then the Three, up to the tens. The tens dominate the hundreds, the hundreds dominate the thousands, the
thousands dominate the ten thousands. This is the pattern among the immortals." (Out of Transcendent emanates the One, then the Two, then the Three,
and so on. It all ever loops, hence 'I am the Alpha and Omega' in one of its many layers of meaning) Other traditions also understood this Pattern to
be the Divine Pattern, or The Pattern, including in matter, an example of this 'Pattern' can be found in the Tao te Ching, chapt. 42. What is being
questioned often in Gnostic Christian writtings is the nature of matter and the demiurge, also, Why are we here? From where did we come? And where are
we going? For many Gnostics and not just Gnostic Christians, Jesus would be seen as a or the Shower of the Way, the embodiment of Gnosis and what we
all are, after all in the Gospels of the NT, Jesus says that not only will we be able to do the things he does but greater! Through Christ is Gnosis
therefore through Christ all things are possible. What exactly that means in the details is up to the initiate, this is why there are so many
differing views, because Christian Gnostics like any other Gnostic we're 'cultivating the stone' as Hermeticists like to say, they were searching for
the Truth and attempting to Deny Ignorance, this is the heart of all Gnostic teachings, even when there is dissagreement, and even, bad tempers.
When understanding the Pattern, we can also understand the Trinity ( The Father, The Mother and the Child in it's most simplest form which is a
description of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit). This is how God can be One yet many and how duality emanates from the One (and the One from
Transcendent) yet is not seperate of It and operates ouroborically, the whole one ocean many rivers concept. This seems to be supported by the Bible
(note the verses above).
In the Trinity the Father is Three, father=yang, mother=yin and the child=the third principal. All things are done through the Mother, the Son (the
Word) and through the Father. I think the best description of the relationship between the Father and Son which is consistent with Gnostic Christian
views is found in the Corpus Hermeticum, I. Poemandres, "Not separate are they the one from other; just in their union rather is it Life consists"
This is not to say that some Gnostic Christians wern't dualists, only that not all of them were. The same for any other Gnostic. (As can be seen by
some of there writtings which did lean more to extreames than the more harmonious picture I just painted).
So what if i'm absolutely wrong, totally misunderstand and or what have you? Even then, the writtings speak for themselves and show that they are
more than appear at first glance. To simply say 'they're a bunch of dualists' I think is incorrect. It's like Christianity today, it is full of
variety even with what they share in common.
"Light and darkness, life and death, and right and left are siblings of one another, and inseparable. For this reason the good are not good, the bad
are not bad, life is not life, and death is not death. Each will dissolve into its original nature, but what is superior to the world cannot be
dissolved, for it is eternal." -The Gospel of Philip, Nag Hammadi
edit on 6-7-2012 by Arles Morningside because: To make my rambling more understandable and fix the worst of my bad typing.