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China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation

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posted on May, 31 2012 @ 05:52 AM
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Unfortunately, China might become in a position to start dictating policy in America. Some other things they might say: free speech is a human rights violation because it increases instability, or not having the internet be censored is a human rights violation because it exposes the population to information that might increase instability.

I wasn't sure how things worked there, so I looked this article up on free speech in China. Interesting. It actually says that free speech is a violation of the constitution if it goes against state interests.
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posted on May, 31 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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Is there anyone who can post a link to an official China government Web site?

If there is an official report from any agency of the China government, is there online access to this material? I only ask because the report listed in the thread does not look official, as it comes from New York.

If the report listed in the thread is officially from China, it would be nice to see an official version. I cannot comment on this thread regarding the contents of the report listed here as I have not been able to verify it is official, which makes it potentially propaganda generated in the United States.

I will continue the search on my end. Cheers to anyone who beats me to it.


Dan

Edit to add:

OK. It looks like the Xinhua News Agency released the report.
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Regarding the Web site gov.cn that references Xinhua as their source:


Gov.cn began trial run on October 1, 2005. Its English version, English.gov.cn, which made debut on November 22, 2005, is the place to turn for a wealth of Chinese government resources. You can browse by topics such as "China Today", "Official Publications", and "Laws and Regulations". Or you can access "Services for Non-Residents" to find out about China investment, travel tips, children adoption and lots more.

Source: "About Us" page from gov.cn
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posted on May, 31 2012 @ 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by QQXXw
reply to post by Nucleardiver
 


The second amendment does not specify if the enemy is domestic or foreign and it was put in place during the 18th century. In both cases small arms would be used against the enemy which in the 18th century would also field mostly small arms. We are now in the 21st century and I hate to tell it to you but we don't have sailing ships or horse driven carts anymore and likewise small arms are not going to guarantee your "freedoms" (which by the way in the 18th century included slavery) against a professional army using all the inventions of the the last 200 years.


You do realize that 75% of our military is comprised of infantry which carry small.arms dont you? Or do you think ourinfantry forces carry howitzers and STS missles? It is the ground forces, infanry that are the boots on the ground that win wars.

As I havepreviously stated, you have no idea about military tactics and continue to show it everytime you post in this thread. You arguing military tactics with me is as ludicrious as me arguing physics with Stephen Hawkings.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by SheopleNation
[/more]
Again get a clue! You seem to act like a spoiled 13 year old girl with premenstrual syndrome.


Getting a history lesson from a delusionist like you is like taking a class on morality with John Edwards as the teacher. The insanity of your misled, historically uneducated assumptions seems to me to be endless Jr. You sound like a 13 year old.

Earth Citizen, The anti-elitism National Socialist! What a citizen of the Earth! You're a facist, but you stand against elitism? Yeah, that makes alot of sense.

You just choose to trade in one group of power hungry creeps for another. That's the way of the weak minded misled slave who is easily fooled and manipulated. LMAO! Your confused beliefs amount to nothing more than a sheoplized circus side show at best. ~$heopleNation
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posted on May, 31 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by fatpasty.

Originally posted by Revealation
Is ANYBODY REALLY GONNA TAKE ADVICE on HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS from THESE PEOPLE SERIOUSLY ????????????????????????


If you write in caps lock it almost seems like you are shouting.



Thanks, this is my first time using a computer. Didn't know that....(SARCASM)



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 10:55 AM
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reply to post by Nucleardiver
 


75% of the military are not front line soldiers who fight exclusively with small arms. Please do not make up statistics,



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 11:01 AM
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There are plenty of countries where Guns are a dime a dozen and available to every body yet those countries continuously fall into civil strife (many examples in Africa and the Middle east). Do you want everybody to own a gun so we can all start tribal wars between each other ? It is already happening in the U.S.A just look at all the gang-related violence.

At the end of the day, guns are only going to be used by civilians to hurt other civilians, they cannot and will not be able to defeat an organized army.


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posted on May, 31 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by QQXXw
reply to post by Nucleardiver
 


75% of the military are not front line soldiers who fight exclusively with small arms. Please do not make up statistics,




Not all Infantry are front line.

If you are in the Army you are trained as a infantry man first. BASIC is Used to do that. After basic you get specilazations. So to not say the army is not 75 percent infantry is off. All people coming in could be considered infantry into the Army at first. You have to start at the bottom.
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posted on May, 31 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by darkbake
Unfortunately, China might become in a position to start dictating policy in America. Some other things they might say: free speech is a human rights violation because it increases instability, or not having the internet be censored is a human rights violation because it exposes the population to information that might increase instability.


I can't believe that on ATS of all places, somebody would star your reply. We have everybody from staunch conservatives to the most liberal members screaming for their rights for free speech and the freedom to express their views [Governments be damned]. I hope and pray they did for the contribution of the information and not applauding it's implied content.


I wasn't sure how things worked there, so I looked this article up on free speech in China. Interesting. It actually says that free speech is a violation of the constitution if it goes against state interests.


That is a perfect example of what to watch out for IF China grows too big and tries to spread their version of Global Hegemony on the rest of the world. People think things are bad now under the USs version?

Talk about out of the frying pan into the fire....




posted on May, 31 2012 @ 11:17 AM
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Who cares what a bunch
of narrow minded communist
pigs have to say??

If China don't think we should have
any guns, why don't they come over
here and try to take them?

Or are they trying to get the American
government to do it before they try
their invasion, make it a little easier for them...

Not going to happen, won't let these damn
commies dictate a damn thing here.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by darkbake
Unfortunately, China might become in a position to start dictating policy in America. Some other things they might say: free speech is a human rights violation because it increases instability, or not having the internet be censored is a human rights violation because it exposes the population to information that might increase instability.

I wasn't sure how things worked there, so I looked this article up on free speech in China. Interesting. It actually says that free speech is a violation of the constitution if it goes against state interests.
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China can dictate all they want.

The day America starts listening is the day to worry about.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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Unfortunately, China might become in a position to start dictating policy in America.


China will never be in a position to dictate policy in America. They are no more influential than any of our other trading partners.

China’s oppressive communist rule goes against everything America stands for and it will never be tolerated by the America people. Americans tend to get a little pissed off when their rights are taken away by an oppressive ruler….just ask the Brits!



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by QQXXw
reply to post by Nucleardiver
 


75% of the military are not front line soldiers who fight exclusively with small arms. Please do not make up statistics,


i never said that they were "front line", I have no idea where you came up with that. Infantry doesn't mean front line.

Besides didn't you say you were from the UK? So I am sure you have never even served in the US Military yet you think you know more than someone who has spent nearly half their life in the military?

Tell me, is it really that nice in the fictional world that you live in in that little deranged mind of yours?

Its people like you that give British people a bad rep with your arrogant, "know it all" attitude.

Why don't you worry about your countries problems and butt the hell out of our business.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 11:32 PM
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I bet that in China in order to own firearms you must be a LOYAL member of the Communist Party. Just like most businesses in China are owned by Communist Party members. These Chinese own these firearms in case the other 1 BILLION 302 MILLION 750 thousand Chinese decide to raise against the oppression of the Communist Party.

In other socialist/communist countries, like Cuba, the same thing happens. Only those truly loyal to the "revolution" and to the socialist/communist party own firearms, which is a minority. The regular people cannot own a firearm. There are some exceptions like some criminals who have stolen some firearms from the military and such, but if, or when these people are captured the punishment is death.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
China will never be in a position to dictate policy in America. They are no more influential than any of our other trading partners.

China’s oppressive communist rule goes against everything America stands for and it will never be tolerated by the America people. Americans tend to get a little pissed off when their rights are taken away by an oppressive ruler….just ask the Brits!



I truly wish that was true, but things have changed a lot since the Declaration of Independence. Most Americans have become so indoctrinated, and so subservient that they would not raise a finger against any form of oppression occurring in the Republic of the United States.

Heck, there is PLENTY of oppression occurring as it is in the name of "fighting terrorism"...

Women, children and men are being sexually harrassed EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK in the United States by government officials, the TSA, and Homeland Security in their claim that "this is to fight terrorism", but anyone with any common sense left knows this is not true. How do you fight terrorism by having TSA agents sexually harrass children? or grandma?... or your wife, or sister? or even yourself?...

This is just the beginning and it is to make Americans even more subservient for the socialist/fascist dictatorship that is being implemented.

And what are most Americans doing about this?... NOTHING...

So believe me, WHEN China and her partners in crime decide to take over the Republic of the United States MOST Americans will do NOTHING, because most Americans, and other people in the world, have lost their balls alongside their common sense and their love for freedom...


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posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 12:49 AM
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well they sure are listening at the FED.

or is that not part of America anymore???

not listening,,lol,,
right,,,
STATE DEPARTMENT,,step right this way,,
,,Mr chinese banker,,
take what u want,,
but they should never have taken the very best,,,
ohhh the night,, they,,
opps sorry.



posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 12:53 AM
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and now with the back door too american military/cia/fbi/tsa/homeland security/etcc
hey they all use chips.,,,chinese made chips,,
phone/iphone/remote control garage door openers,,
etc,,,,

arrest them all,,,
chinese made,,
wow.

either treason or gross negligence.
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posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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Well, I condemn china, just because they splatter brains over dugout trenches using military force.

If your tv set is still plugged in, you are being emotionally abused. Waking up from this is a good reason to die over a couple of sentences coded into the Bill of Rights.

The 'higher vibration' some talk about is swallowed whole by a few words strung out in ssss bouncing off the walls of your brain.

Why are we worried about china, when the enemy is in your living room?



posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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And how do these people care any more about their people than America? From what I hear they're far worse in the 'civil treatment of human beings' than America.

At least, from what I know, America didn't sell organic pills made of human babies.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by SheopleNation

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by SheopleNation
[/more]
Again get a clue! You seem to act like a spoiled 13 year old girl with premenstrual syndrome.


Getting a history lesson from a delusionist like you is like taking a class on morality with John Edwards as the teacher. The insanity of your misled, historically uneducated assumptions seems to me to be endless Jr. You sound like a 13 year old.

Earth Citizen, The anti-elitism National Socialist! What a citizen of the Earth! You're a facist, but you stand against elitism? Yeah, that makes alot of sense.

You just choose to trade in one group of power hungry creeps for another. That's the way of the weak minded misled slave who is easily fooled and manipulated. LMAO! Your confused beliefs amount to nothing more than a sheoplized circus side show at best. ~$heopleNation
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Because you do not comprehend history as well you think you do.

You throw around strawmen to make non-sequitar arguements. Who gives a # about the rothschilds? You think they run the world ON THEIR OWN? Please the hypocrisy is too much to bear. If greedy people did not approve of capitalism it would have failed a long time ago....much like the lieutenants and captains in a crime family supporting their boss.

And I never said I was a nazi....and yeah hinting at that holocaust bullcrap to make ALL your non-existant points. Like america has not sacked the entire middle east(libya, iraq twice, afghanisatan, threatning syria and iran), dropped two ATOMIC BOMBS on japan. Keep thinking so great you "ohhhh...soooo mightly american" will millions continue to get killed from depleted uranium and the zionist pigs dropping phosphorous shells on the palestinians.

Get real you have no leg to stand on. I am a socialist democrat and have sympathy for facism, NOT nazism. Mussolini did not gas people. Do you know this much??? Putting you on ignore from now on!



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