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posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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Why is there so much bull**** in the truth community!



Because "truth" is rarely dramatic enough to sell headlines and make a profit. Over-dramatization is much more profitable. Also, people seem to be bored and crave drama. They usually doubt the truth, but they're quick to gobble up the craziness. It is much easier to reinforce their fantasies than to overcome them with mundane truth.




posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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What about this crazy Russian documentary...In it they claim that Trotsky, Stalin, Lenin and pretty much everyone else were freemasons whose goal was war, money and power.

Slaughterhouse of Osiris:




posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by Minnie1985
hi guys, i didn't mean to offend anyone.....
Dont worry about that, as long as the answers are respectful and are of a genuine desire to know the truth, I dont think anyone will be too offended.


Originally posted by Minnie1985 one question that i should probably ask you is, do you class freemasonry as secret society or would you happily discuss what goes on with anyone? ....i sort of work with is a freemason, and he is very reluctant to talk about it


Its been my experience, that often times a brother is reluctant to get into a conversation with nonmembers to avoid confrontations as they are generally one sided, or they may not feel comfortable with their current level of knowledge to provide the right answers.
I have encountered a few people that, unfortunately, join the craft for mercenary means and are not actually out to learn the craft, just enter to fuel the fire of conspiracy.

Freemason are not a secret society in that we are trying to hide from the public. We are a “secretive” fraternity by means of only keeping a few of our customs hidden from the general public to prevent just anyone from saying they are a Mason. It is to preserve the right of being called a Mason to those who actually earn it. This is no different than any other business, fraternity, or organization.

Don’t believe me? Try going to the Coca Cola head quarters and asking for the recipe for coke. I don’t think they are in an evil plot to take over the world, but their secrecy is much more intense than the Masonic Lodge. Try going to any regular college fraternity and ask what their handshakes are, its not going to happen. Its preservation of craft and a way to identify one another. That’s it.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 02:10 AM
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Just to follow up on a lot of the questions and or concerns as a lot of this information has been covered already, but can be pretty tiresome sorting through so many earlier posts.

A little long winded I know, Sorry.

Freemasons are “mostly” men due to its being a male fraternity, there is a female equivalent of the lodge called the Eastern Starts, which in a lot cases both use the lodge building to conduct their meetings. My best example would be the Boy Scouts of America and the Girl Scouts. Both specific to gender, not for “equality” just a sort of fraternal traditions.

The main purposes for the small amount of “actual” secrecy within the lodge is to preserve its ancient customs and traditions that have been handed down in the same manner for a very long time. There is NO great secret of global takeover that we are entrusted with, no privileged knowledge of secret treasures (unfortunately), and no eating of babies.

The lodge is not a means to which its members are granted special access to ascend through the ranks of fame and fortune. The only privileges one may occasionally gain would be no different that two graduates from Texas A&M, or any other college might give one another, but that is on a person to person level and has nothing directly to do with the lodge itself.

Being a member of the lodge does not place you above the law and make you immune to its judicial systems. As a former law enforcement officer, I have encountered brothers in the breaking of minor laws (speeding, failure to signal lane change, ect) and have let them go with a warning, but no more than I have let countless others go. I have also had to place some (or one rather) in the judicial system for drunk and disorderly, aggravated assault and assault of a public servant. All of which are contradictory of acceptable Masonic behavior. I did, attempt to head the problems off before they escalated, but again no different that I had done hundreds of times before.

The Masonic lodge is subject to the fact that there are good and bad people in the world. There are many checks and balances to prevent one who does not deserve to, from becoming a Mason, but the actions of men are often unpredictable. I like to use the example of the battle of the Alamo, and yes its because I am from Texas.

History, teaches us many things, and most are only the tip of the iceberg. For example, most people are aware of the Battle of the Alamo and the after effects of it had on establishing of Texas. Most people are aware that, Davy Crockett, Jim Bowie, William Travis, Sam Houston, Juan Seguin and others were all Freemasons, but hardly anyone knows that General Santa Anna also was a Freemason. Attacking a mission and knowingly killing hundreds of Freemasons isn’t exactly a good example of brotherly love.

The point being that not everyone holds true to honor the oaths that they have taken, Masons, Police Officers, Postal Workers, Priests, Politicians, Military Members, School Teachers ect…. You can find bad examples of men in every possible scenario involving organizations and what not.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 01:07 PM
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I have to say as a Mason AND an Aggie:

I've never received any preferential treatment from a brother due to being a Mason.

I HAVE gotten a job (that I sucked at) due to being an Aggie.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 03:53 PM
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Hmmm. Interesting information. Thanks for sharing.



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by protocolsoflove


What about this crazy Russian documentary...In it they claim that Trotsky, Stalin, Lenin and pretty much everyone else were freemasons whose goal was war, money and power.



I didn't watch the documentary, but am very familiar with the actions and writings of those people.

None were Freemasons. Trotsky mentioned that he had developed an interest in Freemasonry at one point, but left it aside when he became a Marxist.

Trotsky and Lenin did not want war, they wanted to stop one. Their base of support was from those who wanted Russia to exit World War I, which was seen by socialists as being a type of oppression of working people.

Once in power, Lenin and the Bolsheviks did manage to pull Russia out of the war, but then became involved in a civil war against the former czarists. After defeating them, Russia remained at peace until the rise of Stalin, who sought to expand his influence through military endeavors.





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