reply to post by Jordan River
Judaism tried to explain what happen during the sumerian thorugh their text of angels having sex with women and all that jazzy stuff
Judaism was not an attempt to explain what happened in Sumer. Judaism was an attempt by a nomadic band of Semites to develop a personal cultural
identity to separate them from the surrounding Semitic tribes. The Sumerians themselves were not Semitic, meaning not native to the Middle/Near East,
unlike the other Semitic groups which were. Semites, among others, include: Akkadians, Chaldeans, Eblaites, Aramaeans, and Ugarites.
It's apparent that you don't know the difference between Sumer/Babylon, or Semite/Nonsemitic peoples. This is a very telling fault on your part,
since you claim the Hebrew's are explaining the Sumerians.
The second part quoted deals with Babylonian (Semitic) origins, not Sumerian. The Enuma Elish
is a Babylonian creation epic, not a Sumerian
one. Deities present in this text—like Tiamat, Apsu, Lahmu, Lahamu, Qingu, and Marduk—do not have a Sumerian counterpart. The Great Battle between
Marduk and Tiamat has no equivalent in Sumeria; neither does the creation of Anunnaki to do the labor of the gods, and the Anunnaki's demand that man
be made to do the work for them. All of this comes from the Akkadian conquerors, not from Sumer.
In Sumerian mythology man is created by Enki and Ninhursag, while betting that each can outdo the other in creative capabilities. Ninhursag is to make
7 faulty beings, which Enki must then find jobs for; and then Enki is to make 7 faulty being which Ninhursag can find duties for. Whoever can stump
the other is the winner. Ninhursag produces amputees, gimps, the blind, and other obvious defects, and Enki finds them a place in society. Enki them
makes a single being, one which cannot walk, talk, lift anything, or provide for itself. Ninhursag cannot find purpose for it, so Enki wins.
Afterward, Enki gives the useless being to Ninhursag's creations, and they raise it as the first infant.
In the Babylonian mythology, the Elder Gods (An, Ellil, Ea, Belet-Ili, Sueno, Iŝtar, Ŝamaŝ and Marduk) have the Anunnaki (lesser-gods) working for
them, tilling the land and collecting precious stones and metals. The Anunnaki grow weary of their labors and demand that Marduk relieve them. Marduk,
to solve the problem, decides he will make a savage creature, man, to do the work. Ea then suggests that the Anunnaki who caused the Great War be used
to make man instead, and Qingu is sacrificed. From his blood, Marduk's breath, and the fertile earth the first humans were made, born to slavery and
In Genesis, humans are made to tend to the Garden of Eden for the Elohim. They are born as servants, and created from the breath of Yahweh, and the
fertile earth. Similarly, in Genesis, it is blood, via the woman's period, which stands as the Original Sin, just like the blood of Qingu marked man
as savage and not godly in Babylon. None of this is Sumerian though. So, your claim does not hold water.
I've stuided mythology a great deal, archetypes? LOL sound like my greek professor
The Greek deities (Olympians) weren't archetypal... they represented areté
, which is the highest human virtues and qualities. You obviously
haven't studied mythology beyond an elementary school level, if you don't recognize the:
Dying-and-Rising god: Dumuzi (Sumer); Osiris (Egypt); Ba'al (Ugarite); Teŝub (Hittite); Attis (Phrygia); Adonis (Greece); Jesus Christ
The Solar Child: Horus (Egypt); Mithra (Persia); Apollo (Greece); Lugh (Celtia); Jesus Christ (Christianity); etc.
The Great Goddess: Inanna (Sumer); Isis (Egypt); Anat (Ugarite); Mahadevi (India); Brighit (Celtia); Mary (Christianity); etc.
The Mother Goddess: Ninhursag (Sumer), Hathor (Egypt), Aŝerah (Ugarite); Demeter (Greece); etc.
The Seasonal/Vegetation God: Dumuzi (Sumer); Osiris (Egypt); Telipinu (Hurrian); Cronus (Indo-European); Kore/Persephone (Greece); Jesus Christ
Those being just a few of the archetypes of divinity. For a more in-depth look, familiarize yourself with the
Journey of the Hero
. Religious figures like Buddha, Christ, and Moses all follow suit.
the true matter is that judaism brought the bible OT together in 200 B.C.
And Sumerian, Egyptian, Babylonian, Hindu, and Greek myths date as far back as 3500 B.C.E., which means the Jews were just plagiarizing, and slapping
Yahweh's name on everything, instead of the older religious powers.
~ Wandering Scribe