Originally posted by Seeking Soul
Are you saying that if our God was the true one why aren’t millions healed just by reading the bible?
I'm saying that the true God would be able to heal millions of people on a daily basis and that the reason why it has not happened before is because
He has yet to come.
Originally posted by Seeking Soul
There was an incident here in South Africa a few years back that leads me to be a little skeptical about our Mr Sai Baba
This is a website:
www.stelling.nl...
there are several other sources and links I have for you proclaiming him to be a fake.
You say he has duplicated and surpassed all Jesus' miracles? Well I'd like him to be crucified on a cross and then and sent to hell for three days
for the very race that tortured,denied, and killed him. Perhaps then we'll gain a better idea of who the real Messiah is.
For some reason, I can't get into that site.
Many people were crucified. It was a common form of Roman execution.
The real Messiah would have to be someone who transcends all the traditional religions.
I agree with you about Sai Baba. I signed the
online petition to expose him. The problem is that he
is protected by the government in India.
The point needs to be made that there are people who are not on a spiritual path and who have powerful Gifts of the Spirit given to them by Group
Entities in the Lower Realms. This is the case with Sai Baba.
Another example is Adolph Hitler. He had the Gifts of Charisma and Prophecy.
I have come to know that Sai Baba is a pedophile subangel prophet.
Here are more sites worth checking out:
Sai Baba & The Field Of Righteousness
Allegations Concerning Sai Baba
Former Devotees Speak Out About Sai Baba's Pedophile Activities
Originally posted by Seeking Soul
I never said Christianity was "the one true religion" I said it was the way in which I chose to view and worship God. Big Difference. If you're
Original creator is so omnipotent and compassionate why doesn’t he stop all violence and wrong doings in the world?
The short answer is because He has yet to come. The longer answer is because He has yet to come, because Free Will plays a role and because there is a
negative influence of common spirits; all of these cause violence in the world.
The Original Creator is neither omnipotent nor omniscient, just very spiritually advanced. No being can be infinitely anything. All growth is a matter
of degree of spiritual excellence. Just as many scientists now believe that the Universe is not endless but extremely large, it is a logical
conclusion that The Original Creator is not infinite either, just very highly evolved.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Thirdly, if the Bible was inspired by direct contact with The Original Creator, then the ambiguity and fragmentation contained therein would have also
been amended from the very beginning.
Originally posted by Seeking Soul
Point taken, however one must bear in mind that the bible is not the focal point of Christianity. Christ having died and risen is. However what you
just asked me can also be translated back into a question for you. If your Original creator is not part of any of today's mainstream religions why
doesn’t he simply intervene and stop the fragmentation and misconceptions of spiritualism as a whole?
The reason is because He hasn't come yet.
Originally posted by Seeking Soul
Why would he allow the presence of belief systems of any sort that are contrary to his one true reality? You say he has yet to come? When is that?
And what happens to all the poor people that died before learning "the truth" considering he has not yet appeared?
Those who die before learning about Him are not punished for it in any way. We are not measured by what we know, we are measured by our application of
The Golden Rule and our ability to love genuinely and deeply.
You ask some very good questions. I'm not sure you want to hear the answers but I'll do my best.
After The Original Creator initiated The Big Bang, billions of years ago, He divided His consciousness up totally into basically spiritual souls or
'angels.' There was and is The Light in heaven (typically reported by Near Death Experiencers) and the physical universe. His genius and vision from
the very beginning was to enable a vast universe to emerge that was teeming with humanoid life. He also knew that eventually there would be people in
who would grew beyond being part of a group consciousness and would learn of His plan through the pursuit of remembrance.
When will He come?
When one or more true Saints have evolved into God Realization, transition into The Light, and seek Him out astrally. Once that happens, He will
follow him/her/them back to this timeframe and The First Coming manifests.
Okay...I've been through this many times. You're now going to ask...
"Wait a minute! If He is brought into this timeframe, won't that completely change history?"
No, not one iota.
There are three restrictions on time travel that I have come to know from my many conversations with discarnate Saints:
1. It must be done in the Spirit or astrally. A physical object must travel at the speed of light in order for time to stand still. Einsteinian
physics states that the physical energy needed to do that is impossible to muster. You can however, warp the distance between the stars with
antigravity waves propulsion systems, as the Zetan-Greys do, but that still doesn't enable a physical craft to time travel.
2. It can only be done into the past. One can also come back to the point of origin in the present. You can't venture into a timeframe (i.e., in the
future) that has yet to exist.
3. When going into the past, you can only enter into an alternate, parallel timeline, not the one that you are in. This is to prevent reality from
crashing in on itself, so to speak.
Hence, when The Original Creator is invited here from the distant past, He will be in a parallel timeline to the one we are in now. His emergence here
will not alter our timeline or our past in the slightest way.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
There would be little or no doubt in our minds. His miracles and His spiritual presence would be far greater than any prophet that has ever walked on
this or any other planet.
Originally posted by Seeking Soul
This in my opinion simply takes away everything that religion is. The whole point of religion in my view is to be able to choose for yourself. It is
an internal battle, with knowing he is there, but still having that small shadow of doubt which sometimes leads us into temptation. If I knew without
a doubt that God existed, and I arrived home one day to see him sitting on my bed and performing miracles I'd probably lead a completely or very
almost completely sinless life. But it is because I am not 100% sure that I sometimes sin. Therein lies the battle and the eventual triumph. It is
because I still believe, but have little physical proof to base my belief on that will allow me eventual admittance into heaven or a better
incarnation.
This is the glory of the Christians belief of free will. You may CHOOSE to ignore God or you may CHOOSE to accept him. This is the real test and I
believe the reason why God doesn’t reveal himself to us indefinitely.
Spirituality is what counts, not religion. Compassion and striving to live by The Golden Rule dictates evolution. If one is guided by a higher power
into choosing to live a selfless, moral existence, there is no harm in this. Quite the contrary, it would provide a positive and progressive
environment for spiritual development, unfoldment, and higher awareness.
There are many people out there that "ride the fence" on the "should I be moral and is there a God issue." Proof positive will change all that for
them.
Originally posted by Seeking Soul
I gather from the website link that you are a Solist Mystic…
Yes.
Long ago I was a fervent minister for Christianity.
Some out there will see the humor in the above statement.
Originally posted by Seeking Soul
I read the website link but I'm still rather unclear on what it is exactly that you believe (I'm not trying to be antagonistic here I'm genuinely
curious)
I see also from your other threads that you believe in reincarnation. What sort of reincarnation? I'm not really very well versed on the topic but
through some reading It seems that there are 2 basic beliefs. One being the Buddhist theory that if you live a good life you will come into a better
incarnation but if you are evil you will come into a worse one (if I come back as a tapeworm I'll know
). The second theory is that young souls
start off at the very bottom of the heap and work their way up (i.e. you'll start with a crappy life and gradually get a better one every time) the
aim being to learn a lesson in every life, and if you fail to learn it you will return at the same "level" to relearn it. What is the type that you
believe in, or is yours different?)
All souls started out as basically spiritual beings. Since that time, the vast majority of us decided to incarnate at one time or another. "Heaven is
achieved through deed, not creed." One's reward is in heaven by how far one can Ascend into The Light Of The God Force, which is the energy of
Spirit and nonliving. The higher the discarnate dimension, the more energy there is and the greater the expansion of consciousness. Living a good life
does not guarantee a blissful future incarnation. What it does guarantee is spiritual growth. But we all have the choice as to whether we are to
incarnate or not, and we generally choose the circumstances of that life. Granted, there are no ideal conditions; we simply do the best we can with
what is available. Souls in the past who have had one or more lifetimes of devotion to others/God, have more of a talent for spiritual and
metaphysical areas of study and development in their current incarnation.
The Original Creator did not create The Light in Heaven; He learned to harness it to a very high degree in order to manifest The Big Bang. The Light
Of The God Force, which always existed and always will exist, is infinite, and represents the only way that reality can manifest itself in the first
place. Without The Light in Heaven, there could be no stars, no planets, no souls, and no Original Creator.
Originally posted by Seeking Soul
Anyway back to the original topic....I agree with you that Zetan Greys and other aliens are not demons. So essentially even if our beliefs differ
we're still agreeing on this particular thread.
The Zetan-Greys are not demons in the traditional sense of the word. In all my years of being a spiritual medium and in counseling victims of
discarnate attack, I have never come across a demon that fits the traditional definition. They have always been Group Entities of primitive spirits
who are astrally combined for the sake of collective power. Regardless, the Greys are aligned with spiritually indifferent, primitive people in the
Lower Realms of Spirit, just as the Nazis were and many others.
"Evil contains the seeds of its own destruction."
It is all a matter of time.
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