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Secular Researchers' Findings that UFO Activity is Not Extraterrestrial in Origin

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posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:00 PM
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reply to post by AfterInfinity
 


Try and give us something solid to contribute to this thread instead of trying to derail it by throwing around insults?

This thread is about analyzing and questioning what the Alien/UFO phenomenon is. I have presented a case that these beings are the fallen angelic hosts of heaven. You do not have to believe what I am saying, I do not ask anyone to believe blindly in my hypothesis, I urge you to do your own research based on the evidence we have available to us. I am not the only one who has drawn this conclusions. I think its clear, but I don't expect people who despise the truth (Christ) to ever accept it. All I am asking you for is to have a open mind and heart. Don't be so quick to judge me as some religious zealot forcing my beliefs on others, that's not the case at all. All I am trying to do is show people "aliens" are not what they think they are.
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posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by randyvs



I guess he was so busy fighting aliens he couldn't do anything about the catholic church's child rape ring.


Your taking to new lows with this drivel Trad. Very sad.


How so? The OP claims that an imaginary problem (alien abduction) can be corrected by an imaginary cure (Jesus). If Jesus is not an imaginary cure then we have real problems he could fix, such as the child rapists in Jesus' corporate headquarters.

I think the OP's charlatanism is more low than my pointing at the big elephant everyone likes to ignore.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by Ajax84
 


There is definitely a war in the galaxy's, but they are not what you think they are and the war is invisible. Read my post 1 post up about where Nordics and greys claim they are from.


I really feel sorry for people like you. religon has brainwashed you.
You talk about the bible, but the bible was so obviously written by
man, and man thoughts alone, no God.

This is obvious when you read the stupid stories in the bible. They
sound so primitive, and thats because they are. Do you think if the
bible was written now it will have stories luke the man swallowed by
a whale and living in the stomach, or about how god put the rainbow
there to say there will not be another flood? Of course not because now
we know that a human cant live inside a whale, and we know how rainbows
are made. But the people back then did not know. Are you saying god was
a primitive being back then too?

All religin is man made. There is no evidence whatsoever that any of them
are true, and you have the check to use the word evidence in this thread


Cant argue or debate with religous people like you. Its pointless



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by randyvs



I guess he was so busy fighting aliens he couldn't do anything about the catholic church's child rape ring.


Your taking to new lows with this drivel Trad. Very sad.


How so? The OP claims that an imaginary problem (alien abduction) can be corrected by an imaginary cure (Jesus). If Jesus is not an imaginary cure then we have real problems he could fix, such as the child rapists in Jesus' corporate headquarters.

I think the OP's charlatanism is more low than my pointing at the big elephant everyone likes to ignore.


If you think this is all imaginary then why are you here?



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:07 PM
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The Bible is so obviously divinely inspired, anyone that reads it can see this.

If you read it maybe you wouldn't think it was so stupid. If you want I can come over to brighton and have a bible study with you?

Religion is definitely man made, that's why I decided to become a disciple of Christ. Jesus > religion.

Anyhow this thread is about aliens and Ufo's. I know you feel angry with me for claiming aliens are demonic in origin, and that a person living 10 miles away from you in the UK believes whole heartedly in the bible. But please try to stay on topic.

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posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:09 PM
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The Bible is so obviously divinely inspired, anyone that reads it can see this.


This implies that anyone who does not see divinity in an outdated text, is an idiot. Is that what you're trying to tell us?
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posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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If Jesus is not an imaginary cure then we have real problems he could fix, such as the child rapists in Jesus' corporate headquarters.


You seem to be implying that the majority of priests are pedophiles...

Please provide proof for this assertion, otherwise I'll be forced to conclude it's nothing but a slanderous and highly disrespectful attempt at attacking Christianity.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
 



The Bible is so obviously divinely inspired, anyone that reads it can see this.


This implies that anyone who does not see divinity in an outdated text, is an idiot. Is that what you're trying to tell us?


There is nothing outdated about it. All the moral teachings still apply to today. The truth does not change, the truth does not need to be updated with some newer version (koran) the truth stays the same. That is like saying air is outdated, lets replace it with something else - if we tried we'd die.

Please stay on topic.

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posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration

If you think this is all imaginary then why are you here?


I am here to point out that citing an imaginary problem and then providing an imaginary cure makes you a charlatan.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
You seem to be implying that the majority of priests are pedophiles...

Please provide proof for this assertion, otherwise I'll be forced to conclude it's nothing but a slanderous and highly disrespectful attempt at attacking Christianity.


I made no such assertions, nor attacked christianity. Please reread my posts without the coloration of your delusions.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:21 PM
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Please post evidence that the bible was divinely inspired, and
not just made up by man, that all the evidence points towards.

And you did not answer my question about the stupid stories
in the bible. Can a man live in a whale? Is a rainbow not a natural
phenomenon? And not something god placed there. See the rainbow
theory just proves my point that the stupid stories in the bible are man made.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration

If you think this is all imaginary then why are you here?


I am here to point out that citing an imaginary problem and then providing an imaginary cure makes you a charlatan.



UFO forums are generally for people who believe in aliens/UFO's. I am too a believer, I simply know them to be something else than what the mainstream view of them is. By pointing this out by no means make me a charlatan. If you claim Jesus is not the Christ, then it is you who is in fact a liar and charlatan. I am not trying to give people cures here, simply getting people to question what they think they know about aliens. Anyhow Jesus is the only cure to stop abduction experiences, and this has been proven by over 300 people which further proves this are fallen angels.
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posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration

Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration

If you think this is all imaginary then why are you here?


I am here to point out that citing an imaginary problem and then providing an imaginary cure makes you a charlatan.



UFO forums are generally for people who believe in aliens/UFO's. I am too a believer, I simply know them to be something else than what the mainstream view of them is. By pointing this out by no means make me a charlatan. If you claim Jesus is not the Christ, then it is you who is in fact a liar and charlatan. I am not trying to give people cures here, simply getting people to question what they think they know about aliens. Anyhow Jesus is the only cure to stop abduction experiences, and this has been proven by over 300 people which further proves this are fallen angels.
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sigh!



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by Jay-morris
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
 


Please post evidence that the bible was divinely inspired, and
not just made up by man, that all the evidence points towards.

And you did not answer my question about the stupid stories
in the bible. Can a man live in a whale? Is a rainbow not a natural
phenomenon? And not something god placed there. See the rainbow
theory just proves my point that the stupid stories in the bible are man made.


It is not my Job to prove to you the bible is divinely inspired. If you want proof of that then it is down to you to do your own research. Reading the bible might be a good first step though, calling something stupid without reading it is pretty ignorant. And this thread is not the time or place to be answering your questions. If you want you can PM me and I will answer you.

Now please stick to the topic at hand. Deliberate topic drift is against the forum rules.

Thanks.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
the truth does not need to be updated with some newer version


Your "truth" needs to be updated. You're not even truthful with yourself. There's nary a truth in your posts, little more than scifi religious fantasy with you at the center hocking your god like snake oil. Where is this truth you jibba jabba on about?



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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It is a historical fact that Jesus of Nazereth lived so thats not even the question here, to say otherwise is dishonest.


Uh, no. Nazareth didn't exist when the entity known as Jesus was supposedly alive. There are no historical records that speak about him other than the bible, and when you say "Roman historians" I assume you are referring to Josephus and there is very good evidence that his passages about "Jesus" were added by Christians after he was dead to "Prove" he existed. Furthermore, there were 2 or 3 individuals alive during this time which based upon biblical and "historical" references could be your Jesus. So which one was the Messiah?

You tell people to stop derailing the thread. You were the one who is asserting aliens are demons or fallen angels or whatever. In order to refute your claims it is necessary for us to tell you why you are wrong. This is not derailing the thread.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
Anyhow Jesus is the only cure to stop abduction experiences


I see. So your schtick is just to keep making your claims because, I mean, what else can a charlatan do? If you keep saying it enough times someone will gulp the stool you're dangling as bait. Selling Jesus as the cure for disturbed UFO believers? Have you no shame?



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:38 PM
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You are thread derailing, what has your post got to do with the subject at hand? You are just trying to make a case against Christianity, although I am called to defend the faith, I am not going to respond to such post's from here on. If you don't believe in the conclusions made in my original post, you are free to disagree, but much of what you just typed was a lie anyway, as there are over 5 non-christian roman historians that write about him. Now please lets keep this to aliens and UFO's and not problem with my faith.
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posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by Malynn
 


You are thread derailing, what has your post got to do with the subject at hand? You are just trying to make a case against Christianity, although I am called to defend the faith, I am not going to respond to such post's from here on. If you don't believe in the conclusions made in my original post, you are free to disagree, but much of what you just typed was a lie anyway, as there are over 5 non-christian roman historians that write about him. Now please lets keep this to aliens and UFO's and not problem with my faith.
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The subject at hand is you are saying Aliens are Demons or Fallen angels. Which only exist in your religion. I am telling you you are wrong, because your religion is made-up. And by all means, please name the 5 historians who wrote about Jesus. Also, I do not appreciate being called a liar. Please prove me wrong.
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posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
Anyhow Jesus is the only cure to stop abduction experiences


I see. So your schtick is just to keep making your claims because, I mean, what else can a charlatan do? If you keep saying it enough times someone will gulp the stool you're dangling as bait. Selling Jesus as the cure for disturbed UFO believers? Have you no shame?


Have you no shame to keep making accusations and allegations against me? I speak not for my self but on behalf of the 300 people who stopped their abduction experience using this method, nothing else seemed to work for them.

www.alienresistance.org...



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