Bill C-38 protest has 13,000 websites going dark, page 1


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Topic started on 29-5-2012 @ 05:30 AM by reficul
just came across this article this morn.
this issue has been going on for a bit now here in canada,and it seems our govt. is following in the footsteps of the U.S.
Saturday is the one month anniversary of the introduction of the so-called omnibus budget bill, a 425-page bill that amends 60 different acts, repeals a half dozen others and adds three more. In addition to the changes to employment insurance, Bill C-38 includes controversial changes to old age security, more than 100 pages of new provisions to environmental regulations, an important alteration to the oversight of CSIS and significant amendments in laws related to fisheries, food safety, national parks and natural resource projects.


exactly what we need,more amendments,more laws,more bigbrother telling us whats best!
While Canadians haven't hit the streets en masse yet, they are showing their dislike for the bill even one month later. On June 4, 13,000 website owners across Canada, including the NDP, PSAC and even Margaret Atwood, will be darkening their websites in protest of Bill C-38 as part of the 'Black Out Speak Out' campaign.

even the church is against this bill!


well it seems some people are speaking out - thats a start!
"In the last 12 months I have seen clearly the rise of tyrannical policies and the application of such mind and state control that the people of Canada , unless they soon react, will find themselves not only slaves to a corporate and political domination they never chose but they will experience the extinguishing of any of the hopes and dreams that they once had for a nation firmly based upon the foundations of compassion, justice and peace," he wrote.


you can find this story at yahoo.ca


reply posted on 29-5-2012 @ 06:16 AM by reficul
reply to post by AzureSky



i totally agree! when the people of one of the most peaceful,passive country on the planet start getting mad,get out the damn way! we`ve been too nice for too long,we will be like the docile circus elephant that gets sick and tired of being abused for the amusement of its ``owners`` and goes on a bloody rampage!
Quebec is only the beginning! watch the east coast next,then ontario and B.C!!!


reply posted on 29-5-2012 @ 06:22 AM by AzureSky
Originally posted by reficul
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post by AzureSky



i totally agree! when the people of one of the most peaceful,passive country on the planet start getting mad,get out the damn way! we`ve been too nice for too long,we will be like the docile circus elephant that gets sick and tired of being abused for the amusement of its ``owners`` and goes on a bloody rampage!
Quebec is only the beginning! watch the east coast next,then ontario and B.C!!!


I am from the east coast.
I cannot wait for it to blow here.
If i hear pots and pans at 8pm on the 30th, im going to be out on the streets too. ,
The east coast has been getting shafted for too long, NSP has screwed us over for too long. The government has been ignoring us, that is a mistake.

I feel as though there is nothing here in Nova Scotia for people to get mad over, at least nothing that is as plain as day. Im very mad, because i see the bigger picture, not just Canada. But thats only me. The occupy movement failed here, i just hope that this movement will take hold and we'll get some change. I want democracy. Fairness. Accountability and Transparency. Things that Harper promised but never came. Thats why i didn't vote for him. No one i know did.


reply posted on 29-5-2012 @ 06:29 AM by reficul
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occupy was set up to fail just to show the public tptb will put up with you for a bit,but then show the people én masse how quick they can shut it all down! whos occupying what any more?
that whole thing was a joke!

screw occupy,time to revolt. enough with the govt saying let them eat cake!
bastille day,her we come!


reply posted on 29-5-2012 @ 06:36 AM by AzureSky
Originally posted by reficul
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post by AzureSky


occupy was set up to fail just to show the public tptb will put up with you for a bit,but then show the people én masse how quick they can shut it all down! whos occupying what any more?
that whole thing was a joke!

screw occupy,time to revolt. enough with the govt saying let them eat cake!
bastille day,her we come!


Yeah, Occupying public space didnt work out here.
But this revolt, oh i hope my friend. I hope


reply posted on 29-5-2012 @ 06:52 AM by reficul
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ha! canada day is quickly approaching. THAT would be a fitting date to take our country back,wouldn`t it!
i`m thinking about handing out flyers with the main points about the bad stuff in this bill on this friday, with the actual govt. web site on it so the people can educate themselves. its a start!
face book,ATS,and several other forums will also be used to get the info out there.
canadians are a funny lot! if the info isn`t right in front of their face,they pretend it doesn`t exist!

we need a few lessons from egypt,and greece! (get mad!:mad
all we can do is force the lies the govt. is telling them down their throught so they understand,and get mad as well!

``im a human being god damn it,and i`m as mad as hell,and i`m not going to take it any more!!!``
--- quote from the movie Network!


reply posted on 29-5-2012 @ 07:17 AM by reficul
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excellent idea with a fb page! if you do start one please make sure you foward me the address! i WILL follow.
perhaps we can start one for every province and territory! information is the beginning of change,action follows!
"Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." ~Benjamin Franklin




reply posted on 29-5-2012 @ 07:22 AM by AzureSky
Originally posted by reficul
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post by AzureSky



excellent idea with a fb page! if you do start one please make sure you foward me the address! i WILL follow.
perhaps we can start one for every province and territory! information is the beginning of change,action follows!
"Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." ~Benjamin Franklin


We will make sure to do that, We gotta figure out a lot of stuff first but its going to be fun! Hehe. This summer is going to be it. The summer of love all over again. The time has come, and this crap needs to be dealt with. With peace hopefully. I have a feeling we'll have to drag Harper out of office by force though, or let the RCMP do it when they start shifting their allegience to the people


reply posted on 29-5-2012 @ 07:25 AM by AzureSky
Harper dismantling Canada. Democracy is dead- Google any of these references for the article sources to pop up.

☑ Stephen Harper called Canada a dictatorship, Google it.
☑Stephen Harper met secretly with communist propaganda minister
☑ Stephen Harper renamed the Government of Canada after himself. (The Harper Government)
☑ Harper Government broke the law when dismantling Canadian Wheat Board
☑ Harper Government broke election laws
☑ Harper wants police to spy on ALL Canadians with no warrants
☑ Harper secretly allowed U.S troops full access into Canada.
☑ Harper secretly allowed U.S police full access into Canada.
☑ Harper Government Building $9 Million Barricades for Parliament Hill
☑ Harper Government building $46 Million glass dome for parliament
☑ Found in Contempt, first time in Canadian history
☑ Harper has Majority in Parliament
☑ Harper has Majority in the senate
☑ Approx. $1 Billion spent for Harper's G20 3 day security summit
☑ Harper paid the RCMP $500 million at the G20 summit
☑ Harper's personal security costs $47 million in just under two years
☑ Harper government $2 million fake lake, and $9.4 million dollar G20 fence
☑ Largest mass violations of civil rights and largest mass arrests in Canadian history at Harper's G20, Harper chose downtown Toronto
☑ Harper's Omnibus crime bill estimated to cost $19 billion
☑ $25 Billion contract for Lockheed Martin F-35 fighter jets
☑ Canadian census contracted to Lockheed Martin for $81 million
☑ Harper spending $35-billion for new ships
☑ $9 Billion for New super Jails when crime rates are the lowest in 40 years
☑ Canadian loss of Sovereignty in secret border deal with US
☑ Prorogued Parliament (twice shut down parliament in face of opposition)
☑ Harper government illegal $50 Million dollar "G8 Legacy fund"
☑ Harper Government hires $90,000-a-day 'cuts' consultant firm
☑ Harper government covered up afghan torture
☑ Harper adviser Tom Flanagan called for the assassination of Julian Assange
☑ Harper adviser Bruce Carson fraud x5/prostitute scandal/Native water contracts
☑ Harper adviser huge segal, a senator wants to erode Canada into a "North American community" giving control to private bankers and corporations.
☑ Harper spent $23 million on a media centre for the G8 leaders 3 day summit.
☑ Federal spending up 22% since Harper took power
☑ Harper spending $28 million for the War of 1812-1814 commemoration
☑ $226M in proposed veterans cuts by the Harper Government
☑ The Harper government dropped more than $10 million on news conferences over the past five years
☑ Harper cuts over $200 million in environment spending
☑ Harper defends asbestos exports despite cancer risks
☑ "Ordinary folks don't care about arts": Harper
☑ "People don't care about Afghan detainee issue": Harper
☑ "Canadian people don't care about contempt" :Harper
Feel free to add to this list..


Here is a list of things that came across my FB wall, thought it would be okay to add this to the thread. These are some of the things the harper government has done. And is doing. Along with these new draconian laws he is trying to pass in the budget, and with the internet privacy bills and etc.. the list grows each day.

Append: Largest arrest happened recently in Quebec, 2500+ arrests.
edit on 29/5/12 by AzureSky because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 29-5-2012 @ 07:31 AM by Mister1k
I knew ,I think it was 08 when a man by the name of Marc Dumais did while acting as a General in the Canadian Armed Forces sign an agreement allowing for foreign armed soldiers to be used in Canada against Canadians, and, that this agreement was signed in conspiracy with Stephen Harper, a man playing the role of Premier of Canada, and, that Section 46 of the Criminal Code of Canada states that every one who commits treason if amongst other things, they levee war against Canada or do any act preparatory thereto; or without lawful authority, communicates or makes available to an agent of a state other than Canada, military or scientific information or any sketch, plan, model, article, note or document of a military or scientific character that he knows or ought to know may be used by that state for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defense of Canada, and, that the agreement they entered into was done in secrecy and without public input or discussion and in contravention of Section 46 of the Criminal Code of Canada. I knew it wasn't the Canada I was born in. Since then 5 years of Bill C- this and Bill C- that.Not just treason but high treason. WE have a lot of friends around this planet and I don't see the justification of the agreement.www.globalresearch.ca... see here for details. and here www.northcom.mil... I am not sure how I am going to feel about American soldiers patrolling Canadian streets in times of civil strife. That's around the corner we all know it. 700 arrested in Montreal in one night! 250,000 on the streets telling the Quebec government !@#$%U and that law. Harper has sold us out hardcore and everyday more sell outs. I don't remember historically there ever being a peaceful revolution that succeeded. SH!TSTORM is on the horizon. Where the hell is John Connor when you need him?


reply posted on 29-5-2012 @ 07:44 AM by reficul
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i agree about the failure of peaceful protest --- it doesnt work! too many peaceful leaders have been locked up or murdered! (dali lamma, Dr. king,gahndi,john lennon, bob marley,etc....)
ive been unemployed for 6 months and can`t even find a job with a temp agency! only got 5 months of E.I.!!!
before that i worked for 15 years straight!

try to live on $10:50 an hour!!!!! bill c-38 will make it if you refuse a lower paying job,they can refuse to give you E.I.,even though you have paid into it for x amount of years!
having said that,i`m so broke i will take any job for any pay at this point.
i have sacrificed A LOT lately,stuff for my kids,child support(my ex is understanding),medication,cigarettes,alcohol,t.v..... the list goes on!
but i cannot sacrifice shelter and food! thank the gods the weather is warm,because i definately cannot afford heat!


reply posted on 29-5-2012 @ 08:22 AM by Mister1k
reply to post by reficul



I'm with yah brother, same boat, its gone in hours. Everyone I know, even with jobs. WE live in the 2nd largest country in the world, resource bound like no one else. Our population to land mass. Well you know. And we struggle. !@#$% temp services profiteering off our backs and allowing corporations to use it as a tool to mismanage their businesses. No problem, they will call Labor Ready. We can't even make a Bic lighter in this country. EI, what a joke! HST, CPP, WSIB ETC all corrupt. Acts put in place to protect the corp from the people and use language, none of us understand, to enforce those acts upon the people using lawyers and legaleze to
Take ,take, tax, tax ,take. My kids are just getting started in that !@#$hole out there. Yah We BELIEVE ALRIGHT.
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