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God, aliens, atheist, evolution or lucifer which do you believe? The Last Hope on Earth

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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 02:00 AM
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In all do honesty when considering the statistics and applying the data objectively to life in general as people practice their lives according to their own individual thought process, it has come to my attention that …more people believe in aliens than in God, and more people believe that there is no deity or deities. They believe as atheists life started by such possible events, citing one theory, that a meteorite striking the Earth seeded life on this planet after the meteor collided with Earth.

Putting my own feelings aside and viewing the different beliefs honestly and objectively in studying the human brain to every other species on Earth for a very long time now which seems like ions, I have yet to figure this last conundrum in the grand mosaic of life on this planet, the human thought processes, and how that process has become more prone to desiring and collecting beliefs than using more substantial data to construct its perceived world around it, the modern human psyche. In particular I found that the modern human psyche has changed in just the last several thousand of years. This could be environmental as farming and storing of food allowed for more and more philosophical thought for those with leisure time to think. Previous generations may not have had the luxury to do so as basic survival was too demanding to allow for such thought processes to be utilized, or develop as the brain must be exercised to think in such ways to ponder the abstract possibilities of belief without known facts and adopting them as factual ideas incorporating them into the human mind's thought processes.

What makes a person think that aliens created the stars, sun and universe? How did the equation of human intelligence that is the composition of our brain chemistry that is shaped by the way we think overtime change the chemistry within our brains to think such things? What were the influences? Was it purely a creative thought processes, or was there other influences more physical in nature than a change in brain chemistry that allowed fantasy to so easily become reality? Could the fantasy of belief really be a reflection of reality? Does it matter? It does to some. It matters to some atheists it seems. To the point of aggression. Yes, the very idea of belief itself, or the beliefs held by others, seems to be very threatening to some who believe in non belief.

This makes me ponder, what makes some atheists, or I should ask, what happened in such psyches where God has become so hated in the bowls of those human soul so much by such individuals who not only do not want to believe in a deity, but be so angry with others who do?

In addition, on the opposing side of this dynamic of the fight between beliefs the thought in which the very thought of "Evolution" can't be processed. Some desists feel it is a sin to even ponder the possibility. That to me is unbelievable beyond reality. Why believe you can't believe something based on the interpretations of religious text of someone else? I honestly do not know why I mentioned that in this, but it has to be mentioned as a notation of influence in answering the primary question here. Why do we believe the way we do which leads us to believe in the things we do, and how do our beliefs impact our relationships with others who may believe differently than we? Really they shouldn't have that much of an impact as some beliefs overlap.

Here are some different beliefs, a few I've already mentioned and how they breakdown.

Did it start by a meteorite crashing into the Earth? >> A belief in Evolution, and it can be held by atheists and desists alike.

Did this happen…by not the hand of God? >> An answer in the affirmative would make you most probably an Atheist, but wait... Could there still be possible of a concept of a deity added into this belief system? What would this event make the havens above, and all energy and matter in those heavens? Does such a concept make the heavens Heaven in a believed reality? Believed reality after all is philosophy, and science and philosophy are entirely two distinct separate subjects.

Was this event started by aliens? >> An answer in the affirmative would make you a ‘Believer in Aliens.’ Oh yes, even the ancient alien theorists who believe angles were actually aliens can be included in this philosophical spectrum. Because this spectrum can be as vast as our universe, and if you believe in angles and a deity of energy and not of matter, or even beings occupying different dimension you share a like belief with ancient alien theorists even.

You see our beliefs might be vast at first glance, but at the same time when you study each belief system people hold, they can be very similar in all having common belief in a central idea. We all believe we were created by a greater power than us. So call that higher power, God. Some my simply call their belief in a higher power, The Universe.

With that said lets get down to more philosophical specifics when it comes to more traditional believers in a higher power asking fun questions some believers believe is a sin to even ponder such as pondering the subject of evolution mentioned before within the context of an honest open minded evaluation.

Did the devil actually save man from God?

Do you believe in the devil because he judges not, and nurtures every need of man's desire?

Has God been lost to other entities upon this earth?

An important question when challenging belief. To test the spirits as it says to do so in the Bible.

Its also important to "the matrix," your perceptions of reality, as to why…you should survive as a species. Should you? DO you even perceive you are? Do you know how to test if you really are or not? Do you really want to, or do you feel it is simply your duty to out of loyalty of having the chance to exist, and serving is how you pay tribute for that rare privilege not given to most things of existence in this hugely vast universe.

If you are unwilling to open up your mind to asking such questions in a fun but honest way this might make it more fun, and therefore possible to still try and do so.

You have a writing assignment
What made God so obsolete inside "the matrix" the human psyche, perceived reality?

Does the Bible itself have an intelligent thought process behind it comprised of one's imagination which is able to bring God to life within a matrix therefore becoming a reality? What is the difference between perceived and physical reality anyway? The human psyche is the conscious of this universe after all; its self awareness.

Can the thought processes acknowledge reality without the concept of worshiping a deity in the ‘Matrix Tree’ a tree of life so to speak, the tree of consciousness, of selflessness, giving, caring, empathy for all others be it the leaves on that tree of collective life are atheists, devil worshipers or believing in whatever?

Who are you loyal to when it comes to your beliefs on this planet, and why? Why would you pick one knowledge over the other
God…why would you say there is no God? Is there not your fellow man and a universe above your head from where every elementary particle that makes up every atom in your body came from? One conscious and self aware and the other needing acknowledgment to exist? What if the acknowledgement is simply kindness, love, pure love. What does it say in the Bible that God is?




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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 02:01 AM
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Is there another matrix that has not yet been opened as far as…what you assume is truth? What would you imagine that matrix to be?

It is in fact just a matter of belief, and belief is existence, and you enter into existence by asking the question, do I exist and who am I? The question that leads to the acknowledgement of self awareness. The conscious of this universe. its witness. Could it ever be a concious of a collective one, and would that make a monolithic deity?

The Greatest Question ever asked…Would the species’ of Earth’s humans ever agree, to not disagree together as one human race ,just one time in the galaxy of life?


www.reuters.com...

What is perhaps surprising is that substantial minorities in America apparently believe in ghosts, UFOs, witches, astrology and reincarnation.

What is perhaps surprising is that substantial minorities in America apparently believe in ghosts, UFOs, witches, astrology and reincarnation




It further found that 79 percent believed in miracles, 75 percent in heaven, while 72 percent believed that Jesus is God or the Son of God. Belief in hell and the devil was expressed by 62 percent.





Do such collective beliefs manifest those beliefs into physical form? What is physical form? Matter is really organized energy and so is a thought processes.


The last hope on earth...will have to come before the ~shtf~ .




It will take 3.1 billion people to think at the same time... on the same day, to bring the True-God and the sun of all sons back from the dead.The very same way the humans conjured the other entites that flock your realm, is the same way that you bring jesus back to life.

I hope this happens before 2012, my report is do back before than, who's more important than God ,and why?

What is your real belief and why ?
How did God lose the grip on its souls on earth to lucifer,aliens, and a guy named Darwin, and those who are atheist who are just lost?

lp527 may 29th..The Last Hope'


Can some one come up with a plan to bring 3.4billion together to think one specific thing,on one specific date,at one precise specific time.

'It's said when this day happens a great rainbow will cover the entire earth'

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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 03:01 AM
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Originally posted by LastProphet527


Can some one come up with a plan to bring 3.4billion together to think one specific thing,on one specific date,at one precise specific time.

'It's said when this day happens a great rainbow will cover the entire earth'


I think so,



and then comes




posted on May, 29 2012 @ 03:39 AM
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"God, aliens, atheist, evolution or lucifer which do you believe?"

All of the above...


Seriously... this quote from researcher John Lear says it all:


"The only conspiracy and lies are the ones the aliens themselves are spewing, and those are the ones the government needs to be exposing for the lies they are, not hiding! Why does the government refuse to accept this as a religious issue? After all, it has nothing to do with politics! They just want to corner the alien facade without God because then THEY would have to proclaim HE exists and throw out their evolution, atheism, and Lucifer worship!"

John Lear on Coast to Coast AM


"Wernher Von Braun never spoke to me about any of the details that he knew related to extraterrestrials except that extraterrestrials were going to be identified as an enemy... the enemies that we were going to identify-were all based on a lie."

’ And remember, Carol, the last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens, and all of it is a lie.’ - Dr. Wernher von Braun

Source


Well-known UFO researcher John Weldon said, “How creditable is it to think that literally thousands of genuine extraterrestrials would fly millions of light years simply to teach new age philosophy, deny Christianity, and support the occult? And why would the entities actually possess and inhabit people just like demons do if they were really advanced extraterrestrials?”

Source

True Nature of the Alien Phenomenon












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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 04:08 AM
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Very peculiar thread buddy.
It's as if you want to unite all faiths, and have us click our heels together, and say there's no place like home.

I know you're touching on something great, that not a lot of people address, but I think it's a topic that people are afraid to be seen believing in.

However, I do think there's a little something to it - I just don't know what it could be.

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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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All information points to something if you are wise enought to be able to see the whole behind all religons and science and can see down from high above where the difference become very small. The wisest test that was made was to push the knowledge apart so only when humanity unites and see thru unenlightened duality viewpoints will it know the thruth behind everything. Society is changing/evolving just like animals/humans are. But there is a purpose behind everything. You can never go wrong if you follow the most devine ideals of love, egolessness and harmony.
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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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So you believe in aliens is that what you are saying?



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by Bleeeeep
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Very peculiar thread buddy.
It's as if you want to unite all faiths, and have us click our heels together, and say there's no place like home.

I know you're touching on something great, that not a lot of people address, but I think it's a topic that people are afraid to be seen believing in.

However, I do think there's a little something to it - I just don't know what it could be.

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Why do you think people are afraid to be seen believeing in what they believe?



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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You're talking about physical manifestation from the mind. Magic, Magick, faith of a mustard seed, and The Secret are the kinds of things leads to ridicule and mental hospitals when you say it like you do. (Suggesting that 3.4 billion people could physically manifest christ.)



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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I once believed in God because I had no other reason not to, and I never heard any other explanation or other ways of thinking.

When I first started hearing about aliens, I believed because I had not hear other opinions and other ways of thinking.

When I first encountered CTs, I believed because I had no other alternate viewpoints or way of thinking.

That's why I believed what I believe.

Then I went to college and learned about critical thinking. and that those people were often wrong on their facts and often used dishonest means of discussion and misleading techniques of discussion along with the actual scientific methods were often not what these people said it was. What science actually says and what these kinds of people actually says that science says are two different things.

I keep an open mind, of course, but what I want to see is hard evidence.

I will not believe in Bigfoot until I see they actually find a body.

But people will believe only what they want to believe and never change their mind under any circumstances because they have an emotional need to believe and be right. Why I don't know, but keeping an open mind works both ways. When I hear people use the phrase keep an open mind I immediately close it because I know that no matter what the evidence is to show them they're wrong, they will not change their minds. They always dismiss evidence that shows them they're wrong in favor of their "evidence", whatever stuff they came up with to support their beliefs.

Like the people who believe Obama was born in Kenya. They can never change their view regardless that the evidence shows them they're wrong that he was born in Hawaii. They'll dismiss any BC produced as a fake no matter what.

And with all of these kinds of people I've encountered over the last twenty years of my life, I've learned to basically do what I can to find out what the real facts are, not listen to hyperbole, and base my conclusions on what the facts say, not come to a conclusion first and make all the facts fit it.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone


Then I went to college and learned about critical thinking. and that those people were often wrong on their facts and often used dishonest means of discussion and misleading techniques of discussion along with the actual scientific methods were often not what these people said it was. What science actually says and what these kinds of people actually says that science says are two different things.





Religion and science are completely two different subjects keep in mind. They get easily confused as people try to interpret, adding content, to religious text. Reading metaphors and thinking they know how to define them. Because these sorts believe usually that God is speaking to them directly and revealing knowledge to them. It's within only an imaginary spiritual realm, but they believe it's real so it is fact to them. Their imagination they are conversing with communicates with feeling and what is communicated is the most comfortable and non threatening to their established personal belief window of reality because they are actually making affirmations to themselves so they can feel good about themselves. Lie to themselves in other words. That is for example in the day in the life of a fundamentalist Christian, "How can I gain and retain the most wealth with doing the least amount of work, sacrifice? Let me read these religious texts, oh yes, the Bible says I can eat my cake and eat it too here on Earth and still have more cake in Heaven. My preacher tells me so, and why I give him/her all my money. Because the interpretations I believe allow me to be lazy and selfish without guilt."

That's not science, that's lifestyle philosophy. It's not even religious text. Science can't disprove anything in the Bible, only interpretations thereof. Most of the popular interpretations are about rationalizing that greed is good, I mean great, and selfishness is a virtue. So it's not that hard to destroy Biblical interpretations and trash them into the heap of falsehoods, Gehenna.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by Bleeeeep
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You're talking about physical manifestation from the mind. Magic, Magick, faith of a mustard seed, and The Secret are the kinds of things leads to ridicule and mental hospitals when you say it like you do. (Suggesting that 3.4 billion people could physically manifest christ.)

Its the last hope on earth,try to find away for your fellow humans.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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Do you think its possible,do you think a one time event like this could be possible...'the Last hope '



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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Yes but it would take mass communication and will on the part of the masses.

Right now the communication systems are tied up with what the will of the masses want, redneck shows and conservative redneck political commentary.

Figure out how to sell this idea to rednecks so burger chains can sell their grease food to them in between segments of you selling this idea to the people, and it will happen.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 05:39 PM
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PS Any event has to be first an idea that can be sold to the public before the event can become reality.

Look at Woodstock for example. The dream, the idea, the reality. I forgot to add in advertizement and sales. Sorry.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by LilDudeissocool
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Yes but it would take mass communication and will on the part of the masses.

Right now the communication systems are tied up with what the will of the masses want, redneck shows and conservative redneck political commentary.

Figure out how to sell this idea to rednecks so burger chains can sell their grease food to them in between segments of you selling this idea to the people, and it will happen.


Loll, I am already going to do it, I am going to do this in the month of the Leo or Sagittarius, but it will be done before Dec 21st.

I am going to get all TV stations in the world to pray at the same time for 3 minutes on every TV station in the world, a one-time event that is needed for a one time conjuring of the Last hope.

This measure is needed for when 2.4billion people will think at the same time on Dec20, 2012 at 11:59

You cant even imagine how important this is, you cant even imagine the repercussions of what so many brains thought on Dec 31 11:59 1999 and the many events that led to every disaster from 2000 to now.

To be honest and blunt, that 1999 brain wave of thoughts still holds till today, and now you have another one of these 12 years later…while the first one is still going on.

A DOUBLE BILLION THOUGHT ‘BRAIN WAVE’ OF DISASTER THOUGHTS IN 12 YEARS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE TO THE HUMANS, NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF THIS EARTH…NEVER!

Do you think Osama bin laden had something to do with 911 NO, The 100 hundred million that thought this scenario as the thought of terrors and 1999 was concerned. CONJURED THIS EVENT IN your time.

Do you think Katrina and that horrible tsunami that happened was an act of bad weather. NO, the 89 million people that thought about a whether catastrophe conjured that into your realm.

Do you think the Japan crisis was an earthquake that was supposes to happen? No. this nuke crisis was conjured in 1999 at approximately 11:59 on dec 31st as over 900million people believed that a nuke crisis would happen.

You cant even imagine the destruction that’s going to happen in the following years after the 21st of dec and that’s what I’m trying to stop, its what I do lil dude I counter, and no how to counter every bad event, and this is what’s going to counter this one…the last hope.

However, it has to be a female that is the trick.

Just to let you know. I will not be conjuring any god, loll.


I am going to conjure into this realm …the ‘MOTHER OF ALL MOTHERS’…
THE MOTHER OF ALL LIFE…

I am bringing back our forgotten Mother Lil dude that is my deity, and that is my goal the rainbow will shine
I really do not care about god, aliens, evolution, or the devil
I care about what’s been forgotten and blatantly lied about in all religions as nothing but being a whore or some one mother in stories and fables written by men..

‘The Mother of God’




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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 08:01 PM
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Okay, well this is what you do. You start, "A moment of silence for peace," project movement.

The "project" is to ask people to commit to a three minute moment of silence on you specified date and time. You have to give them a feeling of ownership in it. Such as allow corporations to participate in it by handing out peace tokens at places like Starbucks and McDonald's even Wal*Mart, these are sponsoring venues. At these places people purchase a peace token for a nominal donation to one of many charities of their choice. On one side of the token is a non controversial symbol of peace on the other the name or moniker of a the sponsoring venue along with the symbol or name of the charity of choice. people can purchase as many as they want and hand them out to people, or leave the extras in a basket at the place of the sponsoring venue like a penny dish. After the tokens can be returned at collection receptacles, or set off to an address that receives the returning tokens to be then sent to a site where a peace walk will be constructed out of them. Placed in a brick with a place on it where the token can be fasten, or inlaid rather, into it, or something that incorporates the token within a permanent symbol of and for lasting peace. Remember Pokemon Charizard Gold Cards from Burger King? Here is a pic of some s.ecrater.com... the peace tokens would be something like it.

The "movement" would probably take media sponsorship. You could start by soliciting the folks that run this site. A YouTube video would help too by making a plea for participation and how important it is etc. Use tactful ploys to gain attention so the vid might have a chance to go viral.

The formula for the success you need for your project movement is this. Advertisement value within a positive PR context for the companies that would offer sponsoring venues to access the public for participation. The public incentive to participate is wanting to feel good about themselves. Media attention will come from the fact that the companies offering the sponsoring venues are their costumers and the people are what those costumers need to stay in business, or rather their attention. It's what the media sells to their customers after all. Once you get your initial attention that dynamic will be self sustaining. It will feed on itself taking on a life of its own.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 08:06 PM
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Instead of trying to manifest Christ, why not manifest care (compassion) for the world? This is something that most of all can agree on no matter what religion we are from.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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I don't think anyone is trying to manifest Christ. I think there are universals that all can agree on, some you have mentioned. Christ and other positive peace loving figures throughout history have stood for the same "sharing a common belief in a central idea" call it love, peace and prosperity through true understanding and empathy of others who have mutual common goals for humanity if you will.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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PS

Your location states "Heaven on Earth" That's a peaceful Earth achieved without military or economic force.

“Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.” –Albert Einstein.

Albert Einstein was not Christ, but they did both share common understandings and ideals when they were on Earth.



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