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Obama's Days are Numbered -- Mike Zullo reports from Hawaii -

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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
You know I just had a thought, what if TPTB are offering Romny up in order to keep Obama in office?



If you follow in that line of thought. Possible.

I'm still of the thought Hillary will be first woman prez. One way or another.




posted on May, 29 2012 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
You know I just had a thought, what if TPTB are offering Romny up in order to keep Obama in office?



If you follow in that line of thought. Possible.

I'm still of the thought Hillary will be first woman prez. One way or another.

It's a shame she has to wait another 4 years to run....hey, wait, let's let the birthers have their way and Obama can go ahead and "retire" and Hillary will mop the floor with whoever the GOP picks, then clean up this mess!!!



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 08:25 PM
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Obiden would be president then, thats not something any right thinking person would want either -- it would appear we need to pull a Rabbit out of the hat. 'Hillary is acceptable - however, she is just as guilty as the rest of them -- I hear she likes to kill people, I think she would have to wait till hell froze over.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by JBpage76

Originally posted by MatungaMassala
well there wouldnt be all this fuss about him not being American etc if he was a white president. Thats all i'm saying....


I think that his race has little or nothing to do with it.
The FACT that he has had Muslim background
The FACT that he has never presented a valid proof of birth
The FACT that our nation is worse off now then it was four years ago. Unemployment, number of welfare recipients, ect..ect…ect.. (cant blame it all of G.W., sorry)
The FACTS are endless when you actually look into them.

What blow my mind is the amount of people who still think should be in office, if you ask me it shows who the racists really are.. Typical really, that the response “its because he’s black” is used when nobody can produce any other valid reasons to support him.

I personally did not vote for him, not because Im white, not because he is black, but because he is a socialist at his roots and his Muslim background. Look at the resume, not the color of paper its printed on…. The race card getting thrown in due to lack of supportive evidence is getting old.


Just like when people yell at each other while lacking any real facts to make the discussion. The race card is the same damn thing.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by 1BornPatriot
reply to post by PurpleChiten
 


Obiden would be president then, thats not something any right thinking person would want either -- it would appear we need to pull a Rabbit out of the hat. 'Hillary is acceptable - however, she is just as guilty as the rest of them -- I hear she likes to kill people, I think she would have to wait till hell froze over.


Biden wants to be Secretary of State.

Hill and Joe can switch places. Puts her in a position to inherit or be elected next term.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by 1BornPatriot
reply to post by PurpleChiten
 


Obiden would be president then, thats not something any right thinking person would want either -- it would appear we need to pull a Rabbit out of the hat. 'Hillary is acceptable - however, she is just as guilty as the rest of them -- I hear she likes to kill people, I think she would have to wait till hell froze over.


As long as it's only the ones on the list I send to her, that's fine.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by IntelRetard

Just like when people yell at each other while lacking any real facts to make the discussion. The race card is the same damn thing.


Attempts at denying race is a factor in Obama hate - - is ludicrous.

What's annoying is those who keep trying to shove it under the rug.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by 1BornPatriot
reply to post by PurpleChiten
 


Obiden would be president then, thats not something any right thinking person would want either -- it would appear we need to pull a Rabbit out of the hat. 'Hillary is acceptable - however, she is just as guilty as the rest of them -- I hear she likes to kill people, I think she would have to wait till hell froze over.


Biden wants to be Secretary of State.

Hill and Joe can switch places. Puts her in a position to inherit or be elected next term.



Obama won't let her, it would be signing his own death warrant. One of the right wing whackos would try to do away with him



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 09:43 PM
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The excuses they come up with for the birth announcements in the newspapers - - always crack me up. "Hey! Gramma - phone the papers to print the birth announcement - - so we can prove he was born in Hawaii." "Don't tell them we're sneaking him in on a plane from Kenya"


I was born in Delaware. When this happened my grandmother in New Jersey called in a birth announcement to her local paper in New Jersey where my father grew up. By your logic I was born in New Jersey because a local New Jersey paper printed my birth announcement.

Personally, I don't have a horse in this race and it is just a curiosity for me but I think you are missing the point.

Nobody is saying that there was a conspiracy to fool people into thinking that baby Obama was born in america, only that a birth announcement is not proof. If you just want to make fun of people you disagree with than by all means carry on, not my place to stop you. If on the other-hand you would like to critically examine information for what truth we can find, I hope you consider this as something that is commonly done.

It is very common for family to request a birth announcement in a location where the child was not born. If this happened in Obama's case or not remains to be seen but relying on a birth announcement as proof makes for a very weak argument all things considered.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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Lol. I agree with Limbaugh. Birthers are like children, unable to accept reality, too silly to to take Obama down on something substantive, they they cling to fantasy.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by sageofmonticello
reply to post by Annee
 



The excuses they come up with for the birth announcements in the newspapers - - always crack me up. "Hey! Gramma - phone the papers to print the birth announcement - - so we can prove he was born in Hawaii." "Don't tell them we're sneaking him in on a plane from Kenya"

I was born in Delaware. When this happened my grandmother in New Jersey called in a birth announcement to her local paper in New Jersey where my father grew up. By your logic I was born in New Jersey because a local New Jersey paper printed my birth announcement.


Where did I say it couldn't happen?

I said the excuses crack me up.


If you just want to make fun of people you disagree with than by all means carry on, not my place to stop you. If on the other-hand you would like to critically examine information for what truth we can find, I hope you consider this as something that is commonly done.


I read every one of the first 13 birther threads. No new info has been presented since.


It is very common for family to request a birth announcement in a location where the child was not born.



Statistical data please.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 10:40 PM
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Has it occured to you that perhaps the son of this Ann Durnham and Obama Jnr may be two different kids? It's just strange that Obama has no living family at all other than the family of Obama Snr who have been harshed up. Obama Jnr looks bloody nothing like Obama Snr or any other family member of Obama Snr's extended family and he sure as hell has no physical characteristics of the Durnham family.

That been said, he's not my President and where I come from we would never had voted in this guy to run our country. So why should I care who this President is or not? No matter which way you look at it, there's no difference how Obama and Romney would run the USA. Best you vote in another Bush, at least you know where they come from and there's always Jeb Bush who has'nt had a shot at running yet.

I'm thinking maybe Clint Eastwood should step forth and run!



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 10:45 PM
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Personally, many of my concerns would be put to rest if somebody could show where Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama (Sr.) ever actually got married. Even a Divorce Decree would suffice. But...nada.

Having myself been a young mother, I cannot imagine an 18 yr. old girl in 1961 giving birth and then two weeks later moving more than 2500 miles away with the newborn to start college. Back then, day care facilities were practically non-existent. Also, women that gave birth in the 50's and early 60's generally stayed in the hospital a few days before being released, unlike today where you go home almost immediately.

If Stanley Ann Dunham is the real birth mother of the kid that later took the name Barack Obama, she was one gutsy kid.
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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by queenofswords
Having myself been a young mother, I cannot imagine an 18 yr. old girl in 1961 giving birth and then two weeks later moving more than 2500 miles away with the newborn to start college.


What part of the country did you live in?



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by MatungaMassala
another racist thread about Obama not being a real American...shame on you. I though America had got over all this kind of nonsence. I guess there are still some who would bring back the slave trade.




That's the most ridiculous remark anyone could make!

So let me ask you something; if we felt Obama was actually born in Canada and perused this as rigorously as we are now, would you STILL use the word 'racist'?
You're equating Kenya/Africa with racism. We don't care if he was born in the north pole, he's STILL ineligible. Stop linking Obama with racism or at least, speak for yourself.
I personally love all people. Don't like many but..... I love everyone equally.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 10:57 PM
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Where did I say it couldn't happen? I said the excuses crack me up.


Well, if the excuses crack you up, I would take that to mean you think it is so unlikely that it is laughable. Maybe I misunderstood you but that was how I took it and it seems to be what you are saying, feel free to clarify.



I read every one of the first 13 birther threads. No new info has been presented since.


That's fine. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, I was just trying to relate to you my experience and how it contradicts to what is cracking you up. Like I said, I don't have a horse in this race, just trying to inform you of what to me seems like something you have misunderstood.



Statistical data please.


Yea... I don't really think statistical data is kept on grandma's asking local papers to announce the birth of their grand child that was born in a different location than where the announcement is being made. Asking for something so ridiculous is a bit of a cop-out, IMO but whatever.

I think it is pretty common for a grandparent to want to inform their neighbors and friends to the birth of a grandchild, from what I understand most grandparents are pretty excited to share the news. I also think it is pretty common for grandparents to live in a different state, city, and admittedly less so, country, than their grandchildren.

What do I know? Maybe the majority of grandparents don't submit birth announcements to their local papers, don't save the newspaper clipping and aren't excited to inform their neighbors about the birth of a grandchild? I think it is a pretty popular thing to do, seeing how their is no shortage of birth announcements in newspapers.

Just my thoughts though, you are certainly free to think otherwise if it suits you. I was just trying to inform of what seemed to me to be a gap in your logic based on my personal experience, take it or leave it, I don't really care.




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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 11:01 PM
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The whole story just does'nt glue with me at all and already cracks are appearing. I'm not buying the Kenyan connection at all.

It does'nt matter if this Ann Dunham married or not married Obama Snr simple because he aint the biological father. I'm certain Obama's biological father (as his mother) is American born, now who he really is that's a question mark.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by IntelRetard

Just like when people yell at each other while lacking any real facts to make the discussion. The race card is the same damn thing.


Attempts at denying race is a factor in Obama hate - - is ludicrous.

What's annoying is those who keep trying to shove it under the rug.


pathetic attempt at deflection again....

are you saying because I follow the Law & I want the POTUS to follow the Law of this great Nation of ours, yet because he is of mixed race, I am, and all others simply being a racist?

How completely foolish of you to think such a thing.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by reeferman

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by IntelRetard

Just like when people yell at each other while lacking any real facts to make the discussion. The race card is the same damn thing.


Attempts at denying race is a factor in Obama hate - - is ludicrous.

What's annoying is those who keep trying to shove it under the rug.


pathetic attempt at deflection again....



I did not bring up the race issue. You want to go after someone - - go after the one who brought it up.

But - - denying its a factor and trying to shove it under the rug? Ludicrous.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by IntelRetard

Just like when people yell at each other while lacking any real facts to make the discussion. The race card is the same damn thing.


Attempts at denying race is a factor in Obama hate - - is ludicrous.

What's annoying is those who keep trying to shove it under the rug.



yeah my quote button works..

thats your post..


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