posted on May, 28 2012 @ 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Gauss
I'm just saying there are times when violence, even war, is justified and even necessary. For example when your country is being invaded - or when
there's a genocide in the progress in some random third world country.
Here's where our opinions diverge.
Genocide in some third world country? Like Syria perhaps?
Take a look at this -www.abovetopsecret.com...
I agree genocide should be stopped, the question is how do we know when it's real or being staged for propaganda and provocation purposes? Our mass
media has proven itself complicit in selling us lies to goad the public in to supporting military interventions.
Libya - Gaddafi was not slaughtering his own civilians.
Iraq - Yellowcake? - not true, WMD's - not true, Incubator babies thrown in the streets? - not true
Afghanistan - Taliban "refuse" to hand over OBL? Not without evidence of his involvement which the US could not provide.
Vietnam - Gulf of Tonkin? USS Maddox never fired on.
It's been over 50 years since the US fought a war predicated upon true premises and the public has been consistently lied to by the media to sell
these acts of aggression. Why do we fall for it time and time again?
We had UN peacekeepers in Rwanda when the genocide began yet we refused to intervene since we saw no strategic value in the region.
Originally posted by Gauss
Also, any soldier who doesn't question his orders at least once in a while, is a dangerous tool, in my opinion. Sooner or later he's going to get an
unjust order, and if he doesn't question it... On the other hand, a soldier is also required to do the dirtiest of deeds to protect the innocent.
It's a difficult path to tread to be sure.
I agree, soldiers who do not question are tools yet they are hamstrung by their imperative to follow orders. Even those who refuse to obey
unconstitutional orders are court martialled anyway or simply thrown in a brig without trial. It's not a difficult path to follow, it's impossible
to follow without being forced to commit the "dirtiest" of deeds as you say, possibly including the killing of civilians if given the order to do
so. This has happened multiple times in Iraq and Afghanistan according to the testimonies of returning soldiers.
This really leaves one no other choice but to simply not join and by doing so force the government to institute the massively unpopular draft to fill
the boots on ground necessary to sustain a military occupation. Most enlistees are not aware of the governments lies or the media's complicity in
selling conflict to the public and join with the highest sense of duty, honor and sacrifice.
I do not mean to criticize them at all. They place their lives in jeopardy to serve and protect their country and are deserving of all honor and
respect due them. There's not enough room at Arlington for all who would deserve it.