UK: NHS removes word 'Dad' from pregnancy handbook in case it offends same sex couples

Scottish National Health Service removes word 'Dad' from pregnancy handbook in case it offends same sex couples

• Pregnancy booklet has been revised after a complaint
• The complaint said it was excluding same-sex couples to use term 'dad'
• Review identified 'need to use language that was more inclusive'

The Health Service has removed the word ‘dad’ from a pregnancy handbook for fear of offending gay and lesbian parents.

Officials decided to use the term ‘partner’ throughout the 200-page guide, titled Ready Steady Baby, after receiving a complaint that ‘dad’ was discriminating against same-sex couples.

But the omission of the word has angered some campaigners who claim that traditional family values are being undermined.

Norman Wells, of the Family Education Trust, said: ‘This is all part of an agenda to present as natural a type of family that cannot be created by natural means.

‘The NHS should not be squandering taxpayers’ money to advance the cause of a minority interest group.

‘No matter how much effort is made to present positive images of families headed by same-sex couples, the fact remains it takes a man and a woman to create a child.’

Daily Mail

It does take a man and a women to make a child so why would anyone consider the word 'father' to be offensive?

Why is NHS Scotland so worried about offending same sex couples but seem unconcerned about offending fathers?

Yet another example of political correctness being the tail that wags the dog.

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Kinda makes "bring your dad to school day" a little awkward.

But now wouldn't it offend people who actually are Dads?

Now when I become a Dad, the word Dad won't be in the handbook! That would upset me a bit ... But no no ... Gays come first! Who cares about anyone else!

Originally posted by faryjay
But now wouldn't it offend people who actually are Dads?

Obviously this isn't about trying to avoid offending people. Many fathers will be offended.

Rather it is a move by the forces of political correctness to re-engineer society.

we're the laughing stock of the world. this country is too pc. and if you stand up against all this, youre branded either a racist,sexist, homophobe. you cant please everyone its a joke! they just put a tax on alcohol 50 pence per unit, off topic i know but thats not gonna stop drinking especially in scotland! its not drink thats the problem its people, just a tax on the poor n working class.

Stuff the same sex couples! What about all us normal'ish people who they will offend (myself included) by this omission. When did this world start catering to the whims and fancies of deviants over the masses? Oh thats right, they done it when it became ""politically correct"". What a total mess society has become people!

This is not about offending gays or whatever they use as an excus as I'm sure most couldn't care less, this is about PC crap.
What's wrong with having the word dad? How about mom? 2 male homosexuals might be offended by that, OH NOEZ!

Puulease, I'm gay and I find this ridiculous.

I'm a dad, and i'm offended.

I reckon this will be more a case of the PC brigade wanting to remove it rather than gay couples.

To be honest, i can't understand the fuss anyway. Don't many gay couples have one member that is more the "male" role anyway? If the cap fits and all that.

CX.

Originally posted by ollncasino
Yet another example of political correctness being the tail that wags the dog.

Or, another example of the SNP behaving bizarrely!

At least there are no plans to have this guide amended in the rest of the UK, where thankfully our Politicians don't have their heads that far up their arses when it comes to things like this...

Originally posted by Evansr
This is not about offending gays or whatever they use as an excus as I'm sure most couldn't care less, this is about PC crap.
What's wrong with having the word dad? How about mom? 2 male homosexuals might be offended by that, OH NOEZ!

Puulease, I'm gay and I find this ridiculous.

You are right, this has nothing to do with 'offending gays'.
Another poster spoke the truth, it is a purposeful effort to socially re-engineer society.
But truth doesn't prevail right now, even in light of the most obvious - that EVERY BABY HAS A FATHER.

If men do not start fighting back media's clear portrayal of them as absent, moronic, imbecilic, and not even worth being called the best name in the world - dad or father - then children cannot and will not accept God as FATHER.
This is the truth of their social re-engineering. Remove the respect of fatherhood, the respect of God diminishes.

The beast is very clever.

reply to post by WhoKnows100

.......and not even worth being called the best name in the world - dad or father - then children cannot and will not accept God as FATHER.
This is the truth of their social re-engineering. Remove the respect of fatherhood, the respect of God diminishes.

Whilst I agree with most of what you said I have to say this has nothing whatsoever to do with religion.

Why would anyone want to deconstruct the established organised religious establishment which has been used as a control mechanism for centuries?

Just another example of the ongoing PC driven social engineering programme?
Now that's a possibility.

The beast is very clever.

And comes in many guises.
But that's a discussion for another thread.

I don't think any gay or lesbian person I know would be even remotely offended by the inclusion of the word 'Dad' - but they would be offended at the suggestion that they might be offended - I hope that makes sense.

This is a prime example of people caring too much about what a damn pamphlet says. It's just as ridiculous to be offended by the term "Dad" as it is to make a big deal about the change and act like it affects anyone's life in any significant way. People are offended by people being offended by the word "Dad"? Am I the only one who sees the irony in this discussion?

Utter lunacy, once again by people so far removed from reality that its not even funny.

Another take on this - it cost £90k to reprint these leaflets, off one complaint, at a time we are supposedly in a "double-dip" recession (which makes it sound like a sherbert sweet, like the credit crunch made it sound like a breakfast cereal, do they do that so people don't panic as much?)
What a complete waste.
That could have paid for 4 or 5 nurses for a year.
Sickening disregard for both common sense and the public purse, by people who are just beyond hope in my opinion.

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How many complaints did they have to receive to make such a stupid decision?
Gay people are not out to get you, they understand that it makes a man and a woman to make a baby, why would anyone in that situation get offended by a term they rightfully grew up with?

As i bisexual woman i wouldn't expect the term to be removed and on behalf of my gay brother, i dont think he would be offended either.
I call this article BS, probably has an agenda to kick up some dust about gay people having babies.


Here are the problems i found with your article:
1) Source is the DailyFail
2) "Norman Wells" of the Family Education Trust (who's opinion is included in the article) is one of those people who likes to tell others how to live, for example:

Norman Wells, from the Family Education Trust, which campaigns against pornography and supports policies which promote marriage, said: "Benedict Garrett is being naive if he imagines that performing as a stripper and appearing in porn films is compatible with teaching responsible attitudes towards sex and relationships as a teacher of personal, social and health education.

Source of quote (bbc website)

The guy is also against teenage girls having access to the pill without parental consent.
Source


So yeah, generally, i think this article is just trying to cause a bit of trouble.

I'm not homosexual.

But I hate the words father and dad to no end.

I'd love to see them excommunicated from popular breeder culture all together.

Oh good god. It's time that we took everyone's sensitivity out of the equation, and went back to calling a spade a spade.

Political correctness is going to be the scourge of modern society in the end.

Gays - I've got news for you. You can't get pregnant unless there's a DAD somewhere down the line. Even if it's a sperm donor, it's still a dad.

It's time we stopped pandering to the sensitive few and go back to survival of the fittest.

Originally posted by faryjay
But now wouldn't it offend people who actually are Dads?

Now when I become a Dad, the word Dad won't be in the handbook! That would upset me a bit ... But no no ... Gays come first! Who cares about anyone else!

Yep, they are pushing their questionable lifestyle (and it only lifestyle choice) on us normal people. Its always been and always will be MUM and DAD. No child if they had a choice want to go to school and announce they don't have a mum but two dads,,,,, or two mums no dad....POOR child having to live like that.

I will never see or treat the unit of a man and man equal to that of a man and woman ...NEVER....

Originally posted by babybunnies
Oh good god. It's time that we took everyone's sensitivity out of the equation, and went back to calling a spade a spade.

Political correctness is going to be the scourge of modern society in the end.

Gays - I've got news for you. You can't get pregnant unless there's a DAD somewhere down the line. Even if it's a sperm donor, it's still a dad.

It's time we stopped pandering to the sensitive few and go back to survival of the fittest.

You seem to take a pop at gay people, you know it was just one gay person who complained right? Out of the thousands of homosexuals, one complained and now we're all painted with the same brush?