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Originally posted by Destiny10
reply to post by Apheon
Just because your life has never forced you to explore this (God and his existence), doesn't mean that your experience is the end to beat all. Have you faced death? Have you lost several family members in one day? Are you paddling a raft in the ocean. Are you in a fox hole? No.
Does the mind make this up? To my certain experience no, but not every one has a God and so no, he isn't real to some. To them.
If you face death you will certainly explore this. Perhaps you are young and think this will never happen. I don't know. But, I will say a short prayer for you in the meantime. Don't worry, it's for blessings only.
Originally posted by Christosterone
Did Allah tell Mohammed to marry a 6 year old then have sex with her at age 9 or was that another "miscalculation"?
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by Apheon
Perhaps not exactly, do you prefer phantom menace?
I'd actually prefer discussing these matters with someone who is willing to conceptualize God on a spiritual level....not through personal ideas such as "bearded man", "phantom menace etc.".
Neeson, who voices Aslan the lion in the popular Narnia movies — based on C.S. Lewis books with a widely recognized, "unapologetic Christian message" — said that "Aslan symbolises a Christ-like figure but he also symbolises for me Mohammed, Buddha, and all the great spiritual leaders and prophets over the centuries."
World renowned speaker Lesley Hazleton speaking at the Young Muslim Association's annual Birth of the Holy Prophet [s] Celebration. She covers a range of topics focusing around Islam and Muslims in this age, including history and beliefs, media perceptions, to radicalization, and even insight into human nature. A must see!
Originally posted by iIuminaIi
Thank god i've converted to islam
Prophet Muhammad's (SAW) Last Sermon
This Sermon was delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul Hijjah 10 A.H in the Uranah Valley of mount Arafat
"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I don't know whether, after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying to you carefully and take these words to those who could not be present here today.
O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that He will indeed reckon your deeds. Allah has forbidden you to take usury (Interest), therefore all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived...
Beware of Satan, for your safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.
O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have right over you. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and comitted helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to commit adultery.
O People, listen to me in earnest, worship Allah, say your five daily prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadhan, and give your wealth in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to. You know that every Muslim is the brother of another Muslim. You are all equal. Nobody has superiority over other except by piety and good action.
Remember, one day you will appear before Allah and answer for your deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.
O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand my words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Qur'an and my example, the Sunnah and if you follow these you will never go astray.
All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me direcly. Be my witness oh Allah that I have conveyed your message to your people."
Prophet Muhammad prophesied in the Old Testament
edit on 28-5-2012 by iIuminaIi because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Praetorius
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL
islam is an abrahamic religion just like Judaism and christianity.
In fact Jesus is mentioned more times in the Quran than in the bible and Muslims belive that Jesus will return
Abrahamic religion, yes. Just like judaism and christianity - no. Fundamental disagreements on a range of founding doctrines and implications, and direct controversion of both.
But it does not apply to this example as the end result was the construction of a mosque facing kaaba and spreading more Islam...
That's exactly why it applies. Sharing of this knowledge would lend aid to a religion that is at odds with the true faith. That's plenty of motive for this to be shared accurately.
You think Islam is satanic and therefore anything facing mecca was satanic inspiration? That is clearly not true
You misunderstand me - what I'm saying is that God did not have to be the author of this miraculous information being provided to Muhammad, as you're saying he was.edit on 5/27/2012 by Praetorius because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
reply to post by blueorder
Just pointing out that violence on a grand scale is prevalent in both the OT and the Koran.
Actually, moreso in the OT.
So, if you are saying only Islam is deserving of this accusation, then, I disagree.
If you think this of both the OT and the Koran, then great - we agree.
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
At this point what about the pure disbelievers: atheitsts etc...
While there are some people on here who believe it came from another one of God's creations like Satan, there are some who believe it came from God.
What about those non-believers how do not believe in any of those...what are your theories and evidence to back it up please.
Giving another way to do the same problem does not negate the fact that he did it the first way, ie through divine intervention.