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Come on they found a cloud of beer in space.
just as a passing system may also explain past disruptions of the planet.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Char-Lee
No. It doesn't.
www.universetoday.com...
As far as a Nibiru-type wandering world in our solar system right now the answer is no. There is no evidence or scientific basis whatsoever for such a planet. If it was out there and heading towards Earth for a December 21, 2012 meetup, we would have seen it or its effects by now.
Then why bring up nomad planets? They do not orbit anything.
I don't personally have a description of Sitchin's planet, and I have not read his work. I simply believe that the plausibility of a complete solar system or a single planet passing near us in a regular orbit is not an impossible supposition.
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Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Char-Lee
Come on they found a cloud of beer in space.
You purposely and flagrantly misrepresented the article.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Char-Lee
The article has nothing at all do with regular orbits. It isn't very hard to understand is it?
Nibiru is a fictional planet in orbit about a star. The article discusses planet sized masses NOT in orbit.
These are unrelated issues.
I personally think the ancient inhabitants of this planet may very well have had dealings with off world intelligence and they may well have been told to expect them back, in which case a regular orbit of their home world or system makes a lot of sense to me.
Personally I think fear is what keeps people from contemplating the possibility that we have something that passes this way and causes our planet trouble on a regular orbit.
Why would we KNOW any new planet would NEVER enter the orbits of known planets? There are long term bodies previously unknown surely they can come in any size. it could explain the rubble which may be destroyed planet or planets in our neighborhood.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Char-Lee
I personally think the ancient inhabitants of this planet may very well have had dealings with off world intelligence and they may well have been told to expect them back, in which case a regular orbit of their home world or system makes a lot of sense to me.
That's Sitchin's tale, more or less.
But to clarify, you think that there is a (relatively) nearby system or planet from which extraterrestrials will again visit Earth? That's a bit different from what you said here:
Personally I think fear is what keeps people from contemplating the possibility that we have something that passes this way and causes our planet trouble on a regular orbit.
Why would we KNOW any new planet would NEVER enter the orbits of known planets? There are long term bodies previously unknown surely they can come in any size. it could explain the rubble which may be destroyed planet or planets in our neighborhood.
Those descriptions of a planet cannot represent reality. Any large body entering the solar system would hopelessly alter the orbits of the planets. If a nomad happens to show up it will do it. If another body does it on a regular basis, we would not be here at all.
I disagree with your conclusions. But your conclusion was based on something actually entering our suns orbit I believe.
Every news agency was calling it "beer" what is the problem? that indicates it was brewed by someone lol!
contains enough alcohol to make 400 trillion trillion pints of beer.
There are No dead ends as long as we know so little.
I do think often people who deny a possibility are afraid, they clearly dwell on the subject and keep looking for it, but are angry, and I believe are afraid they will be convinced, because unlike myself they are thinking it means their end or the end of the planet. Where as I have no way of knowing what such a possibility would mean for us.
feel sorry for people who think they KNOW something cannot be.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Char-Lee
Every news agency was calling it "beer" what is the problem? that indicates it was brewed by someone lol!
You continue to misrepresent what it stated. The amount of alcohol was given in number of beers, not that it was beer.
contains enough alcohol to make 400 trillion trillion pints of beer.
Nowhere does the article linked to call it beer.
Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by Char-Lee
water and alcohol ....hmmm!!!
feel sorry for people who think they KNOW something cannot be.
using the old argument of "if a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around, does it or does it not make noise?"
here is another:
If when it rains at midnight and nobody is awake, how do you prove cats and dogs didnt fall from the sky?
If Stitchin is right about Nibiru are we not a little early about expecting it, oh about another 400-600 years???
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Char-Lee
There are No dead ends as long as we know so little.
That is an argument from ignorance.
There are plenty of dead ends and more so as we learn more about the world about us.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Char-Lee
I disagree with your conclusions. But your conclusion was based on something actually entering our suns orbit I believe.
No. My "conclusion" is based on your statements about the possibility of a planet entering the solar system on a regular basis. "Entering our suns orbit" (not exactly sure what you mean by that) has nothing to do with it.
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So if something, say a smaller sun with planets were to come near and not enter out planetary system, do we know what the influence would be at which distances. I don't think so, there are to many variables.
To say it can't happen, nothing out there is going to be heading near us in the future and influence our planet and sun and/or have life forms that visit when it reaches its nearest point seems very unimaginative at best and all good science includes some imagination.