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Originally posted by Rigel Kent
reply to post by network dude
There are no "levels" in masonry and as a master mason you well know this,
All men are born equal and we strive to become better men, Brother or Profane (That term always makes me smile). It is what you carry in your heart that counts.
Originally posted by albertabound
I know several Masons and they're all good people. Unfortunately, there are those who would take people like Kissinger and paint the whole canvas red.
Originally posted by network dude
This should be quick and easy. There are several very knowledgeable people here in the SS forum these days. We are learning that the low level masons here are just not bright enough to know the True secrets. We just don't know what really goes on at the top. I can accept that.......if. If any one of you who claim mental superiority can point me to ONE high level mason whom I can talk to.
Surely they exist! They have been whispering in the ear of the anti mason for years it seems. They share the deepest and darkest secrets with non members by the dozens, but fail to let their brother in on the secrets.
So all you need to do is provide a name of a living breathing high level mason who is in possession of the secret knowledge that you as a well informed anti-mason obviously have.
If you trace up Masonry, through all its Orders, till you come to the grand tip-top, head Mason of the World, you will discover that the dread individual and the Chief of the Society of Jesus are one and the same person!
James Parton (1855), as quoted in M. F. Cusack, The Black Pope (London: Marshall, Russell & Co., 1896): 76.
The truth is, the Jesuits of Rome have perfected Freemasonry to be their most magnificent and effective tool, accomplishing their purposes among Protestants.
John Daniel, The Grand Design Exposed (Middleton, Idaho: CHJ Publishing, 1999): 302.
“P-2 Masonry” (John Daniel, author of the book, “The Grand Design Exposed”; 1999; Page 169): “There is a Masonic Propaganda group, number two…known as the ‘P-2 Club’, with its headquarters being in Rome. …The P-2 Club is a propaganda society of the world’s elite which includes high-ranking Roman Catholic prelates and, of course, Jesuits.”
(I.A. Sadler, author of the book “Mystery, Babylon the Great”; 2003; Pages 175-181): “Freemasonry is another branch of the Babylonian Mysteries, which has survived under different names from the time of the fall of open pagan worship in the 5th century. …Freemasonry is just as ripe for manipulation by the JESUITS and the CHURCH OF ROME, that it may be used for the purposes of ROME, as any Protestant denomination. [Ed.: Freemasonry has been manipulated by the Jesuits for many decades.] …In Britain and the USA, Freemasonry appears as a ‘Christian’ organization. However, this is a most dangerous pretense, for the true god of Freemasonry is Lucifer, who is Satan appearing as an angel of light. …Both Freemasonry and the CHURCH OF ROME [Ed.: at their highest levels] worship the same god… Masonic ceremonies implicitly deny the sufficiency of Scripture. …[Ed.: Freemasonry] is particularly strong in many Baptist churches in the USA… Those in the lower levels of Freemasonry know nothing about the higher and even more secretive degrees.”
It is curious to note too that most of the bodies which work these, such as the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, the Rite of Avignon, the Order of the Temple, Fessler's Rite, the "Grand Council of the Emperors of the East and West—"Sovereign Prince Masons," etc., etc., are nearly all the offspring of the sons of Ignatius Loyola. The Baron Hundt, Chevalier Ramsay, Tschoudy, Zinnendorf, and numerous others who founded the grades in these rites, worked under instructions from the General of the Jesuits. The nest where these high degrees were hatched, and no Masonic rite is free from their baleful influence more or less, was the Jesuit College of Clermont at Paris.
Helena Blavatsky 32 degree co-mason, Isis Unveiled (Los Angeles, CA: The Theosophy Company, 1968): 390.
J. E. C. Shepherd (Canadian historian), The Babington Plot: Jesuit Intrigue in Elizabethan England (Toronto, Canada: Wittenburg Publications): 12:
Between 1555 and 1931 the Society of Jesus was expelled from at least 83 countries, city states and cities, for engaging in political intrigue and subversion plots against the welfare of the State, according to the records of a Jesuit priest of repute…Practically every instance of expulsion was for political intrigue, political infiltration, political subversion, and inciting to political insurrection.
...nearly all the Kings and Sovereigns of Europe had only Jesuits as directors of their consciences, so that the whole of Europe appeared to be governed by Jesuits only.
As quoted in E. Boyd Barrett, The Jesuit Enigma (New York: Boni and Liveright, 1927): 209.
Hector Macpherson, The Jesuits in History (Edinburgh: Macniven and Wallace, 1914): 126:
They [i.e., the Jesuits] have so constantly mixed themselves up in court and state intrigues that they must, in justice, be reproached with striving after world dominion. They cost kings their lives, not on the scaffold, but by assassination, and equally hurtful as the society of Illuminati;
Moreover, the Pope has thousands of secret agents worldwide. They include Jesuits, the Knights of Columbus, Knights of Malta, Opus Dei, and others. The Vatican’s Intelligence Service and its field resources are second to none. source: Dave Hunt A Woman Rides the Beast (Eugene, OR: Harvest House Publishers, 1994): 87.
There is considerable analogy between Masonic and Jesuitic degrees; and the Jesuits also tread down the shoe and bare the knee, because Ignatius Loyola thus presented himself at Rome and asked for the confirmation of the order. source: Charles Heckethorn, (1900), as quoted in Lady Queensborough, Occult Theocrasy (South Pasadena, California: Emissary Publications, 1980): 313.
I do further promise and declare, that I will have no opinion or will of my own, or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver, but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the Militia of the Pope… I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and the wombs of their women and crush their infants heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus. source: Edwin A. Sherman, The Engineer Corps of Hell; or Rome’s Sapper’s and Miners, Private Subscription, 1883, pp. 118-124.
Originally posted by KSigMason
You realize I've already commented on some of those "quotes". Fact remains there is no single authority over all of Freemasonry. You can say there is all day long, but its not true. Good luck proving a lie.
It is a good thing you don't know anything about the Jesuits in Freemasonry....it means you haven't been invited into their inner circle of trust and considering the character of the Jesuits, that makes you a good person.
Those in the lower levels of Freemasonry know nothing about the higher and even more secretive degrees.”
Originally posted by JesuitGarlic
reply to post by KSigMason
I have put the quotes up there....if the rest of the viewers want to go through them that is fine. The topic of Freemasonry is not that particularly important to me. I believe that 98-99% of Freemasons are just normal typical people with no sinister agenda. The research I have conducted suggests that the body though is by in large used as cover for a very few to conduct their own agendas and as a kind of recruiting tool into other secretive orders for those whose character may fit the bill.
My purpose for being on this forum is to warn of the soon great deception of Satan when he counterfeit's the second coming of Jesus and asks for governments all around the world institute civil legislation against the 4th commandment of God (keeping of the Sabbath/Saturday) in favor of Sunday instead. I know some aspects of freemasonry are related to this with various people having connections with groups like the World Council of Church helping to smooth of this process to pre-prepare nations to be accepting of this legislation. Just like the Patriot Act legislation was already prepared before Sept 11th attacks.edit on 2-6-2012 by JesuitGarlic because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by protocolsoflove
reply to post by JesuitGarlic
It seems to me that people are going to deify whichever "God(s)" they choose to with the Sun because it's such an important symbol to man.