Originally posted by RealSpoke
lol, people get so mad at Germanicus
Originally posted by LarryLove
reply to post by Germanicus
Just for the sake of debate ...
I don't know what part of the world you come from, but because you mention Greece let us hypothetically imagine that you are one of many filled with despair and help vote in a new leader on the premise that tough measures and the political will to carry them through is what's needed to stabilize the economy. These measures have serious implications on the status quo of immigration, civil liberties and the justice system. However, the new leader you have voted in assures the electorate that things will get worse before they get better. You and others see no other way out of the economic situation and harbor reservations about the policies, but jobs are needed and sovereign debt needs balancing.
For a while things improve. Going back to the drachma hasn't been as bad as first thought and civil unrest is dramatically curtailed. However, slowly you start seeing changes to the justice system which reduces the ability to oppose the ruling party - politically and through the media. The constabulary forces of the country become accountable to the ruling party alone and are given new remits that move into the realm of intelligence gathering. Those fears you and others had about voting in such a hard-line politician become the focus of your minds as you are told that these new systems of governance are to ensure an economically stable path forward and not a return to the woes of before.
One day, you and a group of friends are sat outside a cafe drinking coffee, talking about your fears of the future. Although, you are all pleased the economy is improving, your conversation turns heated and very political --questioning the reduction in civil liberties and wondering if you made the right choice in voting the ruling party in. That evening you get a knock at the door and open it to members of the new security apparatus who want to question you about your politics. Explaining that you were overheard at a cafe talking in disdain about the party leader and are now wanted for further questioning ...
Still want a dictator?
Originally posted by beezzer
Dang, G, you've gotten spammed!
I've learned to appreciate your threads.
You see, I don't think you're the rabid socialist that most think you are. You tend to have too much common sense for that.
Originally posted by snusfanatic
How about we try more constitutionalism, federalism, and republicanism first to tamper down some of the nasty mob rule aspects of democracy before we decide to go full fledged dictator.
Originally posted by Germanicus
Our 'senators' of the West have failed us all.
Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Interesting how you leave out the third act of every dictator's reign.
Hitler was a great dictator, until...
Julius Caesar was a great dictator, until...
Originally posted by Mkoll
reply to post by ThreeSistersofLoveandLigh
I am stupid because I oppose his point of view. Hot damn you would fit right in to the system Germanicus proposes.
I will not be told what is and is not correct. I will decide that for myself. If you don't like that reeducate me with all your mightedit on 27-5-2012 by Mkoll because: (no reason given)