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What is not clear is what Armstrong is running from. That is the whole point of this thread. To explore that issue. My first guess has to do with contamination of moon rocks by rocket exhaust. This would include contamination by simple water. This does not have to be the case. We may find cold space precipitated nitrogen/N2 or carbon dioxide/CO2 would have been expected on the rocks were this real. As inert as N2 or CO2 may be, in space they would "freeze" and there on the lunar surface be expected to fall, provided these exhaust substances remained in the shade.
My rocket exhaust guess may prove to be off target. We may find Armstrong to have been running from something else entirely, but running from SOMETHING, indeed he was.
We know Apollo is fraudulent, of this we can be absolutely sure. There is incontrovertible evidence proving Apollo to be a non manned lunar landing charade. This, based on NASA's own astronaut medical records, NASA's own accounting of medical problem details, not to mention the astronauts' own first person accountings of their medical problems. Apollo is proven fraudulent simply on the grounds of Shepard's fraudulent Menierie's Disease cure, simply on the grounds of Deke Slayton's fraudulent vitamin atrial fibrillation cure, simply on the grounds of Borman's bogus diarrheal cislunar space illness(see my recent academic piece, "Was Frank Borman An ALIEN with acid for diarrhea and puke ?"; ]
Originally posted by decisively
Thought I was a kook that didn't know squat ?reply to post by DJW001
My answer to you is NO !!!!!!! DJW001, for the reasons stated previously. I am more than willing, indeed am eager, to debate NASA docs, named PERPS, professional astronomers and so forth.
Might gumption filled of you DJW001, rather nervy of you wouldn'tcha' say, to persistently engage in calling me a "moron", an "idiot", as paradox called me a "retard"(to his credit, he at least desisted with regard that particular insult) and then challenge me to a debate and expect me to assent. Who taught you your manners ?
If you do not like the way I pick on the ain'tstronauts and mop cislunar space with their heiny jive lyin' fannies, TOUGH...... If you believe it to be a double standard my slamming them from time to time as I do, TOUGH... I am intentionally provocative with them and with good reason. I wrote to Armstrong long ago and warned him about what I was capable of in more ways that one, as I wrote to others. I informed them they could choose to talk/go public themselves,
The oldest samples dated gave radiogenic ages of approximately 4.7 to 4.9 billion years B.P. (before the present). Others gave dates of 4.13 to 4.22 and 3.78 billion years (some of the older dates were later disputed), in general much older than the first dates offered by LSPET. Only traces of carbon were found (one anomalous sample contained almost five hundred parts per million), and there was no evidence of any bio-organic compounds. One group of investigators (R. D. Johnson and C. C. Davis) stated that some of the high carbon readings might be attributable to contamination introduced during sample preparation or toerrors in analytical techniques." They suggested that an upper limit of ten parts per million would be correct for indigenous lunar organic material. They thought the small amounts of carbon detected in some of the samples might have come from the solar wind or from carbonaceous chondrites that had struck the Moon in ages past. Water was not identified in any of the minerals analyzed, nor did Luis Alvarez find any magnetic monopoles. Some samples studied for remnant magnetism seemed to indicate that the Moon once had a small magnetic field, perhaps 1,000 to 1,500 gammas, or about one-thirtieth of the current field of the Earth. The present magnetic field was much smaller, however, on the order of 10 to 30 gammas, the latter figure coming from the magnetometer at the Apollo 12 site that returned data by the time of the conference.
whay the hell are you going on about now.............?
Originally posted by decisively
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Where's the water, CO2 and N2 ?
From Donald Beattie's, TAKING SCIENCE TO THE MOON, Beattie relates this and that regarding the first collection of lunar rocks. In a sense, one would expect the rocket exhaust, N2, CO2 and H2O to be more or less inert. But nevertheless, wouldn't some of it, a trace, show up in some samples ?