Naked Man Eating Victim's Face Shot And Killed By Miami Police: Report

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by popsmayhem
He was on bath salts it is more
akin to a cocain high then lsd...
If you stay on it for a few days straight
though since it will keep you up, you will
start going into psychosis and hallucinate.

Reminder to people keep it natural.

Why would you think it was bath salts? Autopsy has not come back yet. Since MPDV (bath salts) are not traceable in drug tests and there would be no way of knowing if he used them in the past, there cannot be any reason to think this unless an autopsy was done.

Is there another reason you think this? The effects of MPDV rarely include psychosis compared to other, more obvious drugs. Plus the dude was pretty well groomed and didn't look like some candy kid looking for a cheap thrill.

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I'm talking about the bath salt MXE.
It CAN be tested for specifically.
If it is taken a lot over a few days
without sleep it will induce psychosis
and hallucinations. This is a classic case
of the new designer drug epidemic.
Wait and see this is a MXE related crime.
I believe they even found traces of it
somewhere at his place of residents
for the time,.

reply to post by NotAnAspie


Try Miami cannibal.

Originally posted by NotAnAspie
TO Crimsongod

I searched miami man with face eaten and clicked on images and mostly got porn pics.

I think you just feel used any time someone asks you for a favor. Sounds like typical baggage to me.

edit on 29-5-2012 by NotAnAspie because: (no reason given)

I searched Miami Cannibal and it came up straight away?

Originally posted by NotAnAspie
In my opinion, this story is getting more and more embellished as it goes.

I feel the same way, don't get me wrong.
All this talk of zombie apocalypse, and drugs or cannibalism or whatever, is just that. Talk.
Due to the seriousness, and heinous nature of what happened... it is very hard for many people to understand the hows, and whys behind this crime... myself included.

Hence, the media theories and hype.

Originally posted by NotAnAspie
I'm starting to think the whole thing is fake.

Not me. I don't think this was faked at all.
The attacker: Rudy Eugene.
The victim: Ronald Poppo

They are clearly, real people.
If you search for it, you can find all of their arrest records online....
If you want it, you can google and get the gore that you are looking for.

So no, again - not faked.
Sure the circumstances around it seem off, and difficult to grasp at the moment.
It did happen. That I am %110 sure of.

____________________________________________________________________

All that said, and after a few hours of reviewing pics and vids of that whole ordeal...
I'm inclined to say - speaking only for myself here:

However strange and obscure as this tragedy is, I extend my condolences to all those effected by it.
That is all I've got to say for now.

Now that pulled it up... along with a lot of other really weird stuff. Apparently this is trending. people appear to be reenacting it. It came up on Google. I guess they are blocking it on yahoo or something because I got nothing when I searched that on yahoo.

Thanks!

Originally posted by telemetry

Originally posted by NotAnAspie
In my opinion, this story is getting more and more embellished as it goes.

I feel the same way, don't get me wrong.
All this talk of zombie apocalypse, and drugs or cannibalism or whatever, is just that. Talk.
Due to the seriousness, and heinous nature of what happened... it is very hard for many people to understand the hows, and whys behind this crime... myself included.

Hence, the media theories and hype.

Originally posted by NotAnAspie
I'm starting to think the whole thing is fake.

Not me. I don't think this was faked at all.
The attacker: Rudy Eugene.
The victim: Ronald Poppo

They are clearly, real people.
If you search for it, you can find all of their arrest records online....
If you want it, you can google and get the gore that you are looking for.

So no, again - not faked.
Sure the circumstances around it seem off, and difficult to grasp at the moment.
It did happen. That I am %110 sure of.

____________________________________________________________________

All that said, and after a few hours of reviewing pics and vids of that whole ordeal...
I'm inclined to say - speaking only for myself here:

However strange and obscure as this tragedy is, I extend my condolences to all those effected by it.
That is all I've got to say for now.

maybe it IS real, maybe it is... but take a look at some of the reenactment photos.

What i am mostly suspicious of is the fact that someone is already eager to say it was a designer drug that I have never heard of until today and has already put it in Wikipedia. That's pretty eager to make a statement, I'd say. things like that always make me suspicious when partnered with the fact that i am hearing more and more of this zombie apocalypse stuff... and I thought that was just kids who had been playing too many video games, but you'd be surprised. i'm talking about a very specific paranoia regarding people who are either affiliated with law enforcement, or mason lodges. People are seriously preparing for this... and I'm not just reading this from the internet. I'm talking about local... right here in my own town. i mentioned this before because they will often try to pass it off like they are just talking about when TSHTF... people coming out of the cities like zombies, but that is just how they keep from looking crazy because these are people of communities talking about this stuff. Not just the conspiracy theorists. What if that thing about the zombie preparedness plan among masons was not a hoax (like the internet makes it seem to be) it would totally coincide with what people are spreading word of mouth. To hoax a story like this would give law enforcement the edge of not looking like some nut jobs if this zombie preparedness can actually be documented. and you know all the hacking going on.

what if this guy is a psy-op experiment? I'm not jumping to conclusions but you know... this IS ATS.

yeah, this whole thing makes me kinda sick. That is what is bothering me so much about it and making me curious. He had friends, people liked him but his ex wife says he thought people were out to get him. what if HE was a conspiracy theorist himself?

something just doesn't feel right about this and people are just really eager to say it's things people use for various mental reasons... like it's going to happen to ANYONE at any given moment... not just those who manage to get their hands on and are stupid enough to take PCP. Yeah, this is going to make it VERY difficult for MANY people to sleep at night.

and of course, it happens right out in the open.

Something just doesn't seem right here. at all.

we've already got people editing wikipedia about designer drugs because of it. Even if it did happen, it could still be tainted with lies.

Someone may have posted this
Any way it all started in Milwaukee
The Milwaukee Cannibal,
Don't think he ate any while they were breathing though.
Don't think I have to do a warning this far into the thread.

Jeffrey Dahmer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer - Similarto Jeffrey Dahmer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer (May 21, 1960 – November 28, 1994) was an American serial killer and sex offender. Dahmer murdered 17 men and boys between 1978 ...

Christopher Scarver - Jesse Anderson - Dismemberment - Raising Jeffrey Dahmer

back to the original post, all I have to say is that I am disgusted by this. Any stories that involve cannibalism, especially ones that satisfy the killer sexually, is absolutely sickening. I can just imagine what the family members of the victims must feel, knowing that a loved one was eaten by a mentally disturbed individual. That would be a terrible way to die, still being conscious while having another person torture you and dismember you as you sit there in agony.

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No offence but what's Jeffrey Dahmer got to do with this case? That was years ago and there wasn't any mystery behind it he was just a psychopath

He wasn't in a drug induced freak out or anything like that he was just a straight up psycopathic, cannibalistic, serial killer.

Not attacking you or anything just wondering?

Originally posted by longjohnbritches
Someone may have posted this
Any way it all started in Milwaukee
The Milwaukee Cannibal,
Don't think he ate any while they were breathing though.
Don't think I have to do a warning this far into the thread.

Jeffrey Dahmer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer - Similarto Jeffrey Dahmer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer (May 21, 1960 – November 28, 1994) was an American serial killer and sex offender. Dahmer murdered 17 men and boys between 1978 ...

Christopher Scarver - Jesse Anderson - Dismemberment - Raising Jeffrey Dahmer

how very bizarre that the cops returned a young man found wondering the streets naked bleeding from his behind. How so completely freaking odd.

I never read the details but reading these... wow, some very strange details indeed. He even proclaimed to have believed in evolution. What do you suppose caused him to make this statement?

was he asked this question specifically? I wonder.

Do you suppose he ever actually "zombified" (in the sense that the term has been used and not the literal sense) any of his victims for any given period of time before they finally died? i wonder what gave him these ideas.

Speaking of Miami... again, south of miami on one of the keys, there is a tourist attraction about a man who had a young bride who soon died thereafter and he kept her body and remade parts of it for his "use" long after she had been dead...years. Count castle or something like that... and just further south you have haiti where voodoo is practiced, but that's getting off my main point of how odd of a time this is coming up.

near election time... and it's a black dude.

boy, this has really got my eyebrows twitching.

If this guy WAS doing bath salts... i bet ANYTHING there was an unknown chemical in it that won't turn up.

I have mentioned signalers that I think they are putting in some of this stuff, but i highly doubt it was MDPV alone.

If it turns out he had no drugs like PCP in his body but they try to say it is something like that, I bet t is some of this more dodgy stuff that isn't yet illegal. This stuff has been lobbied for and politicians have even spoken on it's behalf... it's a route to administer unknown chemicals to people. seriously, I have looked into this and I KNOW that some sources of this stuff sell completely different stuff than less reputable dealers. There are knock offs all over the place even though none of it is good, some of this stuff is seriously heavy duty crap.

If that turns out to be a possibility by having no serious drugs in his body like PCP, I bet ANYTHING he was targeted. This stuff has some very weird stuff in it, just do some research. the regular stuff and the dodgy stuff is like night and day. It's totally different and can be used as a very strong signaler to the central nervous system. It can make you more susceptible to hypnotism and electronic control.

holy crap this is really making me paranoid now.

OF COURSE he had to have pulled the guys pants down. OF COURSE it had to be in DOWNTOWN.

isn't Florida largely democratic? if this is true, I wonder if candidates will NOW take a REAL stance on gay marriage because they have been fence riding. You KNOW they have!

I'm sorry... this is just WEIRD!

I also feel 100 PERCENT that this is HIGHLY possible!

I know this is a tad long, but bear with me here.

www.miamiherald.com...

Metayer said Eugene, the son of Haitian immigrants, grew up in North Miami Beach.

He grew up in Miami but both his parents immigrated here from Haiti. For anyone who isn't familiar with that connection, the following is some interesting research on whether zombies exist in Haiti done by Wade Davis.

www.webster.edu...

The essence of Davis' claim is this:
There are zombies, however, there are actually very very few of them...
Zombies are created when a person first falls into a death-like trance which is both drug and culturally induced, then is revived and kept under the control of the houngan by the use of other drugs.
Zombies are created by Voodoo priests who are members of the Bizango secret societies.
Bizango societies constitute a totally secret and hidden other government beneath the surface of Haitian society.
Zombification is not random nor for profit or personal vendetta, zombification is the ultimate punishment to someone who has seriously violated the law of the Bizango society

Pretty interesting. If somebody does a crime deemed worthy of zombification, they could be dosed with something that makes them extremely susceptible to outside influence. Theoretically, you could drug somebody then offer their subconscious suggestions of zombie-like behavior. Now the zombie behavior Eugene displayed was more of our stereotypical zombie than of one used by Voodoo priests. This could be for various reasons including lack of knowledge/experience, wanting to make a public scene, or tainting Eugene's name.

www.newser.com...

He was arrested on a battery charge when he was 16, and was busted seven other times between 2004 and 2009 for charges including vending near a school, trespassing, and marijuana-related offenses. He was married for more than a year to a woman who says he became increasingly violent with her.

The only thing that seems like it may have warranted such a punishment was his violence with his ex-wife.

It's totally a stretch, but still something interesting to ponder. Do I think this is what happened? No, but I think that we may be able to get some fun convo or other possible ideas out of it!

I think it could have very well been something that will never come up... or they will never tell us.

Bizango societies are probably related in some dirty mob money kind of way to the US presence in that area, because if this DID happen to that guy... it was not for his crimes, imo. I think it was much more specific. just look at all the coincidences.

Where was he born? Why did they move to the states? How did this become possible for them?
Could he have been part of some kind of seemingly harmless clinical trial where he had to have exams by base doctors near that area?.. or hell, regular hospitals for that matter... hmmmm.

What if this guy had implants or something and some seemingly legal street crap set him off? was he on probation for his past offenses? was he warned of prison for his various crimes? probably so... especially the violence.

they guy obviously liked weed... and if he was dodging trouble, he may have very well gotten a hold of something legal with some of these unknown CNS stimulants in them.

DAMN i wish i could find that video... it might have been in the senate??. Heck, i cannot recall because this was back in 05... but the guy was saying things like "If your kids are going to do drugs, wouldn't you want to know who is selling it to them? because they have been trying to put bans on this for a while and LOOK they are still in gas stations aren't they? They use this as vehicle for giving people unknown drugs while pushing parents and business to drug test more... to push people to do it.

I have been convinced for quite some time that this stuff was related to psy-ops. Not all of it is like that though, but you never know. The cheaper it is, the likely it is really bad stuff. give that to somebody with an implant and BAM, you can completely control their brain.

This guy should be checked for implants and his vaccination records should be looked at... last doctor visits and who those doctors were. I am almost convinced this guy was a psy-op victim.

HOLY CRAP...something else I just thought of. they hold unknown people in Guantanamo don't they? No charges, no trials... poor record keeping... or have I been reading too many conspiracies?... because that is what i have been reading all these years. if they have unknown people held there, they can turn them right back OUT... while under this kind of hypnosis.

wow... i really started believing 9/11 was an inside job lately die to what i have learned of mind control but i always thought they were training them really far from here and just HOLDING people in Guantanamo, but what if they actually do implant people there off the books... not even in the actual base but get some cronies that are very much from the region to get their hands on these people. Implants can be slipped in almost like slight of hand. i won't get into my implant experience... don't want to make this about me but I'm almost certain it was done with a special tongue depressor while at the doctor... shortly before one of my best friends went down for murder they called a satanic ritual.

OMG I hope they search that guy for implants but i bet the feds will get a hold of his body and prevent all that.

ALSO... the doctor that I saw who came to the walk in clinic was a call in... from where i don't know. An intern. i have mentioned him before on this site. they have some really weird ways of doing things. Nurses often don't know which doctors will be in.

Now really, who wants the RCC running health care? NOT ME.

that doctor did some very strange stuff to me... and yeah, he was a complete pervert!

but anyway, we should watch very closely what they do with this guy but you know how it goes...the autopsy ALWAYS gets screwy. I have a feeling this autopsy is going to get WAY screwy. Nobody from the government is going to want to touch this though... and shed light on it even if it was meant to be against THEM. Too risky, could point the finger right at them!

holy cow this is messed up.

those poor people... this is nuts!!

reply to post by NotAnAspie


Dam dude not hating on your theory or anything or shutting you down but I think everyone is starting to read into things a bit too much.

Like sure I agree that this whole thing is dodgey with the witnesses lying and everything which makes me wonder what the police officer is trying to hide, but I mean come on? Really? Chips being Implanted? Mind control? Zombies? I think the dude just took something bad, flipped out, and you all know the rest. But that's just my opinion.

Still the only thing I'm thinking is strange is the falsified reports

But I'm also a very open minded person and don't mind being proved wrong

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this gives horrorcore rap a whole new meaning. too much gangsta nip / dr doom???

sick!!

Originally posted by doodles40
reply to post by NotAnAspie

 

Dam dude not hating on your theory or anything or shutting you down but I think everyone is starting to read into things a bit too much.

Like sure I agree that this whole thing is dodgey with the witnesses lying and everything which makes me wonder what the police officer is trying to hide, but I mean come on? Really? Chips being Implanted Mind control? I think the dude just took something bad, flipped out, and you all know the rest.

Still the only thing I'm thinking is strange is the falsified reports

well, it will be a while before you can say that about the next guy eating someone's face off in a large downtown city next to a major road and parking garage in plain view.
this stuff doesn't happen every day.

I see you are a mind control skeptic, no point in even trying to convince you.

those who have had brushes with this type of thing know exactly where I'm coming from whether they decide to post in here or not.

This is HIGHLY possible.

All I can say is maybe you should educate yourself a little on electronic warfare. there is some highly sophisticated stuff out there and an obvious drug program going on even if you might not be able to see it.
research it. this stuff has been around for a while and they are just finding new ways to use it.

this has some very specific motivation behind it geared to a certain voting demographic and we all know that Florida is a sought after state for repubs...

this isn't just a campaign, this is a campaign that might soon decide entire world government issues, the US dollar and ww3. this campaign is extremely important to some.. so important they have a strong pulling for both liberal and conservative republicans due to current fence riding among voters because of the recent failures of both a democratic AND republican administrations. there's a alot of swing voters this election and they know this, this is why MR AND RP are both still in the game. they are not getting a good feel of how typically republican candidates are going to vote. Florida is always an iffy state. it looks like it's going to be MR, so they've got to drive that conservative value back into the minds of republican and swing voters.

how can this be outrageous?? it makes perfect sense. I'm not saying 100 percent it's true but it sure does seem possible. that is my opinion.

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I wouldn't say I'm a mind control skeptic, it's just as you said I'm not educated in the subject and can't say I've really ever looked into it.

I'll take your suggestion and do a little research into it when I have the time

I can't say I totally agree with everything your saying but to be fair I'll have a look into the topics your raising before doubting your claims just because that's the type of guy I am

I just read a comment on a blog. Person says they saw a video of Rudy approaching Poppo on the causeway. Apparently it was a random attack. Rudy is seen taking his clothes off before he approaches Poppo, when he gets to Poppo he starts beating him & draggs him away, he showed no signs of struggle.

the man whose child in florida was killed that they at first thought was killed by dahmer was found to be killed by Otis toole. His name was john Walsh and he wrote the Adam Walsh safety and protection act that was signed into office by GW Bush in 06... many years after his son's murder but he made statements about putting implants in sex offenders anuses. He later said it was a joke. something came up about making offenders wear bracelets and he mentioned GPS chips again.

This is currently an issue... GPS chipping sex offenders.

Good idea or worst idea ever?

Otis toole had an accomplice who helped him kill over a hundred people and his accomplice had a death sentence which was commuted to life in prison by GW Bush. Why? Sympathy... or the fact that they had him confessing to hundreds and hundreds of murders, most of which they are certain he had no part of at all during the span of his prison sentence.

Toole suffered from seizures and was also a cannibal.

interesting stuff.