reply to post by windword
What? What is "face value"? Are you saying that demons are born from lies and not created by god? I thought you guys said that demons were fallen
angels. If demons are fallen angels, then they were created in divinity. No?
Satan is called the author of lies, the deceiver, etc. He and his cohorts are not exactly known for telling the truth. What I mean, specifically, is
that during exorcisms, spirits will lie about their identity, who/what they are, etc etc. They will lie, lie, and then lie some more, and will only
tell the truth when FORCED to (and when they do, it is actually painful
for them to do so). I'm not really concerned if you think exorcism's,
evil spirits, etc are real. I have seen them first hand, and I am convinced. As for their origin, that depends on who you ask. The general consensus
is that they are fallen angels, but within this group there are other sub-groups such as "The Watchers" from the book of Enoch, or the Nephilim. Some
even believe the spirits of the Nephilim live on after their earthly bodies perished, and act as a sort of lesser demonic entity. There are a number
of theories here, from a number of religions. Take your pick.
What same thing are you talking about? Your assumption takes some wild leaps and bounds there. Do you think all paranormal activity is evil? Do you
believe that it is god's will for us to remain trapped inside our bodies and never supposed communicate to via telepathy, for example? Why did god
bestow humans with paranormal gifts of awareness then?
How is it "wild leaps and bounds" to expose the amount of deception present in both sets of phenomenon? How many contactee predictions have come and
gone without validation? How many entities have lied, deceived, and contradicted themselves about who they are, what their agenda is, and where they
come from? As for whether or not I think all paranormal activity is evil, that would depend on what you define as "paranormal". As for telepathy, well
I have yet to meet telepathic people. Certainly people are capable of some pretty extraordinary things, and I wouldn't say all of it is Satanic (I
would even call some of them gifts). The important thing here is (in my opinion) to approach such things with a spirit of discernment, and to question
everything and every spirit in the authority of Jesus Christ.
Again, you coming from an assumption that all paranormal activity is evil and has an evil purpose. What if that "spirit" leads one to inspiration in
their own life, and helps one to overcome their fears, to see their life in a better light? What if that spirit teaches an individual ways to access
their inner light? What if that person feels a sense of freedom and belonging to a greater whole afterwards? That is what happened to me. I've had
many visitations from loving and powerful beings that weren't of this earth. What if these beings come and minister to those who are lost, trapped and
overwhelmed, giving them insight outside of their small little box of self defeat? I'll ask you the question again "Is there nothing else but good and
evil, GOD and SATAN? Is there no room for twain?" Is you world as simple as black and white, good and evil. Do you follow the doctrine of duality,
that god has an equal enemy that is the opposite of pure good? If so, then where do you fall in this conundrum? My experiences advise me differently.
I wouldn't trade the wonderful communion that I have had in the spirit world, from these visitors, for all the real estate in heaven!
If I believe in Demons, I must also believe in Angels. Again, I would be for testing such spirits. You may find my view "black and white" and narrow
minded, and I'm ok with that.
I do not believe that Satan is equal to God at all.
I'm happy to hear your communion has helped you. Mine has been equally helpful in my own life.
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