Propaganda & Distortions Against The Serbs, Article Written By Jeffrey T. Kuhner of the WP

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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 02:40 AM
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On the Washington Post, Once again Jeffrey T. Kuhner a immigrated Canadian now Republican radio host,article writer for the Washington Post and Human Events, National Review Online and Investor's Business Daily.

He is also the leading president of Edmund Burke institute a Washington D.C. think tank devoted to integrating minorities into the conservative movement.

Has now written and proclaimed did Serbia vote for a new war in the Balkans? the problem with his article the way he has written with such full of hatred and distortions and proclaiming that the Bosnian Muslims and Croatians were the only true victims of the war.

Leaving the Serbs out as the True evil people who wanted to create Great Serbia.
Heres is his article. But Where do we begin? his article is one huge propaganda not only propaganda about during World War II cases but the fact he doesn't how the Croatians were even allied with the Nazis and even collaborating with them.

To arrest any Serbs and Jews, Romas living in Croatia and sent them to a Nazi camp to be killed.
Heres the article

Did Serbs Vote For War in the Balkans?



Another war is brewing in the Balkans. Recently, Serbia’s voters elected a new president. Ultranationalist Tomislav Nikolic narrowly defeated the liberal, pro-European Union incumbent, Boris Tadic. Mr. Nikolic’s victory means the Balkans may be plunged into ethnic violence again.


Mr. Nikolic’s victory means the Balkans may be plunged into ethnic violence again




Mr. Nikolic says he no longer opposes EU membership, arguing that “Serbia will not stray from the European road.” This is false. Mr. Nikolic is portraying himself as a born-again center-right leader in order to prevent Western sanctions and Serbia’s international isolation. It is a cheap, cynical ploy. The 60-year-old former cemetery manager is a neo-fascist, who wants to restore a “Great Serbia.”


Once Again just like the western mainstream card (The Greater Serbia) Started by CNN the moment the war started in Balkans in the early 90s.

It is a cheap, cynical ploy. The 60-year-old former cemetery manager is a neo-fascist, who wants to restore a “Great Serbia.”

Here comes the distortion part, read it carefully.



Mr. Nikolic embodies the worst forms of Serbian nationalism, whose ideological roots go back to the “Chetniks” - the term for Serbian royalists - of World War II. Led by Drazen Mihailovic, the Chetniks formed a racist far-right-wing movement that sought to forge an ethnically pure Great Serb empire incorporating Serbia, Montenegro, Kosovo, Macedonia, most of Bosnia and large chunks of Croatia. Allied to Benito Mussolini’s fascist Italy, the Chetniks engaged in murderous ethnic cleansing, slaughtering tens of thousands of Bosnian Muslims, Croatians and Kosovar Albanians.


the Chetniks formed a racist far-right-wing movement that sought to forge an ethnically pure Great Serb empire incorporating Serbia, Montenegro, Kosovo, Macedonia, most of Bosnia and large chunks of Croatia. Allied to Benito Mussolini’s fascist Italy

The Writer Jeffrey T. Kuhner wants you to believe that Serbia was allied with Benito Mussolini’s fascist Italy in which case it wasn't true.

I guess Jeffrey T. Kuhner forget how the Croatians welcomed the Nazis with open arms and this historical map.


The Neo Nazis Youth Movement in Croatia along with Albanian Radical Movement has pictured.


Don't mind Jeffrey T. Kuhner he wont be telling you that at all, nor the fact that the Croatians has created genocide of Krajina Serbs.

And now in Jeffrey T. Kuhner in 2012 is making bold claims once again.




As Yugoslavia disintegrated in the 1990s, Belgrade launched brutal wars of aggression against Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo. More than 250,000 were killed and nearly 2 million ethnically cleansed. Mr. Nikolic openly championed Serbia’s power grab and territorial annexations.


Claims that Jeffrey T. Kuhner is trying to make.

Jeffrey T. Kuhner claims that Serbia and All of Serbs a launched brutal wars of aggression against Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo.

Leaving more than 250,000 were killed and nearly 2 million ethnically cleansed and that it was all part of Serbia's power grab and territorial annexations?
Total nonsense i could tell you this no one wanted the war in the Balkans to happen not the Serbs nor Serbia, nor anyone in the region.

But for Jeffrey T. Kuhner to suggest that there 250,000 were killed and nearly 2 million ethnically cleansed is completely out of touch with reality.
The 250,000 is a fabricated number used by the mainstream news outlets and they have been using that number since 1999.

Heres another similar distortion.

. It called for the expulsion of all non-Serbs from Kosovo and large swaths of Bosnia and Croatia. It sought to unify all ethnically cleansed Serbian territories along with Macedonia and Montenegro into a Great Serb state.


I guess Jeffrey T. Kuhner fails to see himself as a Slavic then? now on this point that Jeffrey T. Kuhner is trying to suggest Serbs and Serbia was trying to cleanse all None Serbs in Kosovo and large swaths of Bosnia and Croatia.

Yet i have a problem with that, i will explain it later.

However Jeffrey T. Kuhner has been known to make such statements before

“Ramparts of Christendom?”
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Is anyone here surprised? and to make things on his article on the WP he apparently has his own interent attack paid users to anyone that disagrees with him.

for example heres a user named No Dog in this fight.



Over 12000 Bosnians were killed during the siege of Sarajevo. 1500+ were children. All at the hands of the Serbs. you are clearly a Serb by your posts. Do you expect sympathy on this board? Your own people caused the devastation and murder!





It amazes me with the amount of revisionist history the Serbians are leaving in the comments section. How many mass graves have been found in Serbia as a result of the war during the 90's? It is well documented what the Serbs committed in Vukovar, Srebrenica, Dubrovnik, Sarajevo...etc. The best response we see here is people referring back to actions during WWII! Not a very strong argument when we are focusing on today. As for Operation Storm and Ante Gotovina's sentencing at the Hague, Carla Del Ponte had a very pro-serbian agenda and she left her mark. The appeal last week clearly shows the evidence does not support the charges.


My thread shows you a clear example of what is Deconstructing Disinformation and Distortions all in one.
continued.
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 02:50 AM
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My thread shows you a clear example of what is Deconstructing Disinformation and Distortions all in one.


But the thread and content aren't relevant to your title "The Writer Is a Canadian/Republican."

So what is your point here? Is it the actual content or the writer's Nationality?

Please deconstruct.

Peace



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 02:52 AM
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The quick response and reaction from the supporters of Kuhner couldn't be more obvious that they either working with him or are on his pay roll.

a user Cro Am.



You serbs are liars in denial. Identify anything in Kuhner's article that is false. I can't believe Croatia and the Untied States signed the Dayton Accord to save serbia at its weakest point. We should have taken Croatia off the leash so that we could have freed Bosnia and created a real country instead of rewarding the serbs with half of the territory for war crimes and allowing serbia to continue to idolize their war criminals. I knew this would happen, that you would elect another raping, murdering fascist thief as president who believes in a "greater serbia" policy. Here's some news for you, serbia isn't great yet. it's not even good. Your neighbors have done more for you than you ever have for them. You had one of the lowest literacy rates in Europe and still do. That is why instead of books you believe your father's stories of WW2 and how serbs fought the nazis when the fact is they only fought them for 10 days when the nazis first invaded the kingdom of yugoslavia, you crumbled and then you worked for the nazis for the entire war until the partizans won and thats why mihalovic was tried and executed, because he was a traitor. Let me also remind you that the partizans were formed in Croatia by Croatians and along with Russia and England were the only real resistance in Europe during WW2 that fought through the entire war. So enough of the little ustashe story, everyone is tired of hearing it and you have over exaggerated it to a point that it is no longer believable, the sympathy is gone and it will not help you this time as you have openly shown your true colors. You still think of mihalovic as a hero and you still believe milosevic, mladic, karedzic, nikolic, and all these criminals who planned the last war and made billions of dollars are heros. They closed the yugoslav banks and stolle the money from people's savings. They invaded Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo. They committed genocide in Croatia and Bosnia, and almost did in Kosovo if NATO didn't stop them. They emptied the serbian jails of muderers and rapists so they could go fight in Bosnia. They established a draft and sent your sons to Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo to die. They stole priceless art work and historical artifacts from those countries. They established concentration and rape camps so your soldiers could have some entertainment. They leveled cities such as Vukovar and Mostar. They mad a fortune off of you with the black market goods during the economic embargo, It's so sad that this is your pool of heros. Clean your own house first before you think of invading someone else's. You're just uneducated cowards that rape and kill women and children. Against a real army you lose and Croatia proved that. Instead of making amends and asking for forgiveness, you elect another fascist. You should be ashamed, but instead you try to defend your new president. How can you expect to win wars when all you have in your little pea brains are these evil thoughts?


Unbelievable what a response calling Serbs liars in denial?


Look at what Cro Am wrote here




we could have freed Bosnia and created a real country instead of rewarding the serbs with half of the territory for war crimes and allowing Serbia to continue to idolize their war criminals. I knew this would happen


And so what then so you could create greater Croatia? as a real country? not sure how that would have worked out but i hope that doesn't come to pass.



They leveled cities such as Vukovar and Mostar.


From My family members who lived thought the war they have told us that it was the Croatians that leveled Vukovar and Mostar. then they blamed upon the Serbs.


So ATS what do you make of this? in my personally opinion i think its safe to say we can all blame the mainstream news media outlets for all this.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 02:53 AM
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Originally posted by jude11



My thread shows you a clear example of what is Deconstructing Disinformation and Distortions all in one.


But the thread and content aren't relevant to your title "The Writer Is a Canadian/Republican."

So what is your point here? Is it the actual content or the writer's Nationality?

Please deconstruct.

Peace





So what is your point here? Is it the actual content or the writer's Nationality?


Did you even read the whole thread that i did? because if you did you wouldn't respond that fast.
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 03:01 AM
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This man should be fired for writing this heavily opinionated piece,he calls "news".
We have seen the hurt,and the pain,many people in that part of the world,has faced,because of idiots like him.
I know people that had to flee,because of the hatred there.Regardless,if this man is a Canadian,or Republican,his voice,is not that of the rest of those who believe in equality.

Its sad,to see the level people go to,to make their one sided opinion,heard.


S&F



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter

Originally posted by jude11



My thread shows you a clear example of what is Deconstructing Disinformation and Distortions all in one.


But the thread and content aren't relevant to your title "The Writer Is a Canadian/Republican."

So what is your point here? Is it the actual content or the writer's Nationality?

Please deconstruct.

Peace





So what is your point here? Is it the actual content or the writer's Nationality?


Did you even read the whole thread that i did? because if you did you wouldn't respond that fast.
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I read enough to be able to form a question that hasn't been answered yet. That's your job here.

Your content and title have nothing to do with the other. You make it sound as if you are either shocked that he's Canadian or you want to put down Canadians because of one writer. Not really sure which it is.

Personally, the content is interesting in itself. The Nationality doesn't and shouldn't matter, so I'm curious as to why YOU think it's relevant.

Peace



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 03:07 AM
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Well i Apologize maybe i should been a bit more clearer on this This writer is a Born Canadian who moved to America and started working as a Radio talk show contributor well a contributor more of then a host.

Although he does own his own radio talk host.
I should probably rename the thread.
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by jude11
 


Well i Apologize maybe i should been a bit more clearer on this This writer is a Born Canadian who moved to America and started working as a Radio talk show contributor well a contributor more of then a host.

Although he does own his own radio talk host.
I should probably rename the thread.
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No problem here.

Just trying to connect the dots as to what the Nationality had to do with the content. If there is a connection or motivation behind the writer being Canadian it's something that should be laid out for all to see IMO

All good.

BTW, forgot to SnF so back to it.


Peace



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 04:33 AM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter

Unbelievable what a response calling Serbs liars in denial?


We meet again
and i have to tell you, you in particular are a little bit in denial.
I think you have been living abroad for such a long time that your current views about the Balkans do not reflect the views of the society(s) living there. I'm sorry.

First of all, why make a thread about false accusations about Serbia and then write about another country's in the region?
It is pretty obvious what you are doing and there's no need to do that. You can prove your point without propaganda tactics (which you say you are against).

Second, you are actually trying to deconstruct something Nikolich has said about himself numerous times and he is proud of being a radical nationalist. Are you calling the man a liar for being proud of his Chetnik views? I don't get it?

Third, you have an urge to let the world know Serbs are not bad people and that's ok, but while the rest of the world (at this time) prefers socialist party's Serbs are the one who have chosen a radical one, that doesn't mean they are bad people it just shows their state of mind as a society in 2012. (ps. did you know Serbian people in Serbia say/write they actually did not elect this man, they say only 30% voters did and there's a nice conspiracy which certainly wouldn't surprise me as being somewhat true)

Coming from that region myself I respect people more if they speak the truth and share their views, even if i disagree with them, than being radicals behind closed doors only and speaking politically correct BS in public (like the former president of Serbia, Tadic). When people are honest you know what to expect and you can in a way - trust them.

Would you rather have someone tell you he doesn't like you a lot and he doesn't want to be your friend or someone who calls you 'my boo-boo' in public but when you turn around gives you the evil eye and talks shizz???
..
The only problem with all of this, i think, are similarity's with '86-'90. We have all of the ingredients, bad economy, one or two (or three) radicals, western media giving it too much attention (suspicious don't you think, almost the same article came out in Deutsche Zeitung) etc.. but this time i really think peoples are smarter than that.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 04:34 AM
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I knew the moment i started this thread you would respond not surprised, your trying hard to bring it down arent ya?



Second, you are actually trying to deconstruct something Nikolich has said about himself numerous times and he is proud of being a radical nationalist. Are you calling the man a liar for being proud of his Chetnik views? I don't get it?


Second, you are actually trying to deconstruct something Nikolich has said about himself numerous times and he is proud of being a radical nationalist. Are you calling the man a liar for being proud of his Chetnik views? I don't get it?

Since you didn't read the thread, re reared it.




Nikolich has said about himself numerous times and he is proud of being a radical nationalist


Ugh the thread title is not about Nikolich it is about Jeffrey T. Kuhner of the WP whose a propagandist just like you are.




It is pretty obvious what you are doing and there's no need to do that. You can prove your point without propaganda tactics (which you say you are against).


And its pretty obvious what you are trying to do and you just exposed yourself by admitting you didn't even read the whole thread because if you did, you wouldn't respond like this.

Heres your line again.
Are you calling the man a liar for being proud of his Chetnik views? I don't get it?

If you completely read the whole thread for either a 4 min or an hour you would understand on what i have wrote and on whom i am talking about but it seems.

You were to quick and try to accuse me as a propagandist.
You can prove your point without propaganda tactics (which you say you are against).

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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter

From My family members who lived thought the war they have told us that it was the Croatians that leveled Vukovar and Mostar. then they blamed upon the Serbs.


THIS IS DENIAL AND REVISION OF CONVICTED WAR CRIMES. NEXT TIME I'M GONNA REPORT TO ATS INSTEAD OF YELL
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 04:46 AM
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We meet again and i have to tell you, you in particular are a little bit in denial.

Nice try with this but it apparently seems that your the one whose in denial, i am not surprised you would respond in a such way that you would once again criticize and attack the Serbs.



I think you have been living abroad for such a long time that your current views about the Balkans do not reflect the views of the society(s) living there. I'm sorry.


I came to Canada in 1996 after i lived in Italy and Croatia, i haven't lived that long and i currently know more better, i have been following the Balkans since 2004-2005.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 04:54 AM
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Originally posted by Exitt

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter

From My family members who lived thought the war they have told us that it was the Croatians that leveled Vukovar and Mostar. then they blamed upon the Serbs.


THIS IS DENIAL AND REVISION OF CONVICTED WAR CRIMES. NEXT TIME I'M GONNA REPORT TO ATS INSTEAD OF YELL

I did not see that coming from, but apparently with that kind of reaction, it apparently sounds like your the one whose in denial.

The moment i mentioned


it was the Croatians that leveled Vukovar and Mostar. then they blamed upon the Serbs


And no this isn't Revision friend its information from my family members who had been through the conflict and had how should we say.

They had there sources.




NEXT TIME I'M GONNA REPORT TO ATS INSTEAD OF YELL



Did you read the ATS rules once you joined up?
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 05:04 AM
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Good post op and Im glad to hear the truth from your point of view. What the west did to Jugoslavia was a crying shame. When I think back to how those evil serbs, died fighting the nazis for the west. Yes I know the croats fought along side the nazi`s. Funny how the west seems to forget this part of history.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
I knew the moment i started this thread you would respond not surprised, your trying hard to bring it down arent ya?

Oh come on!! You know i like discussing these things with you
not trying to bring ya down. Especially since we are so opposite in our views, you must admit there is nothing interesting about discussions where people totally agree with each other.

Anyway, about the similar article i already mentioned, Michael Martens was the author for Frankfurter Allgemein Zeitung spewing exactly the same shizz as your Canadian guy. Please focus on what i am writing now, he falsely cited Nikolic saying 'vukovar is a serbian city, always has been' and now, because of that there's a political scandal (sort of) in the region with people saying a lot of things , which are based on NOTHING, on Michaels lies, German lies? Nato lies? Who's lies i wonder?

Doesn't it remind you of 'western media news' from the '90? You are a bit caught up in explaining history of Balkans and whatnot but i smell foul play...what do you think about this, two articles, two western media outlets just days after Nikolic was elected, lies??





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