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Celebrity Being Tormented In Hell Tells Girl To Speak Out And Not Be Silent That Hell is Real.

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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Info to note on our man Hydro: He isn't legitimately searching for answers. He thinks he already has them and his goal is to ask you 37 million and 7 questions to either try and catch you in a contradiction or to make you leave the thread out of boredom/frustration. He has no intention whatsoever in legitimately looking at your responses with a rational consideration for the points you make. It's just endless questioning after questioning. It never ends.


thinks he already has them.....yes
ask 5 hundred and fifty eleven quadrillion.....yes
try to catch you in a contradiction.....yes
frustrate you....yes
endless questioning that never ends....yes

However, even though he is a colossal smartass, loves to annoy certain people and entertains himself through petty argument, I truly believe he has a good heart.
I'm not fooled by his childish endeavors, nor do I think he even believes half of what he says. And even though I think he knows the truth and is simply testing the boundaries of said truth, I will continue to answer his questions, no matter how inane they may be, because that is what I'm supposed to do.
Nonetheless, we both know that you can only ignore the signs and play in traffic for so long until you get blind-sided by a MAC truck. Until then, I also believe that even if there is just one person out there, one total stranger that I never meet, one single solitary unknown soul that silently reads these forums, who is in some small way blessed by his & my exchange, then I consider it well worth the effort.
God will never give up, my sweet NuTty brother, and neither should we. And I know you won't. Even though he is aggravating as hell sometimes.




posted on May, 27 2012 @ 08:24 AM
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yes, that is interesting.

as far as your other questions, I don't have the answers



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by stupid girl
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yes, that is interesting.

as far as your other questions, I don't have the answers


Star for honesty



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
I never said you were MY enemy. I dont have enemies.
Good. I feel the same.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Take the extreme conservative approach. Look at the probability of just 8 of the 310 being fulfilled by 1 man. And these 8 couldn't have been planned by Christ either.
How do you know these were fulfilled?


Originally posted by NOTurTypical
See, so there you go, people can believe without visual "proof". God actually withstands the proud and rewards the humble diligent seeker.
Does he reward the gullible? Does he reward those who seek but find something different than him?


Originally posted by NOTurTypical
And Jesus blasted Thomas for that. I wouldn't use someone Christ rebuked as my model.
Jesus can blast me too, I don't care. At least I would have gotten to see and touch him.


Originally posted by NOTurTypical
I never said that. Hell is just. Even though it's justified, I don't want a single person to go there. What would be unjust is if God forced people to spend an eternity in Heaven worshiping Him who didn't love Him. That would be unjust.
Who said he would have to force us to worship him in heaven? Are you going to be forced when you're up there? Now, if he allowed everyone up there, and they actually see him, hear him, and can speak to him...not only that but actually feel his loving and awesome presence (as you guys describe), maybe people would actually want to worship him.....? But if they didn't want to.....so what?



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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why are we even discussing this Mr. Man?


Info to note on our man Hydro: He isn't legitimately searching for answers. He thinks he already has them ........


Respectfully, the same could be said of you. You're not here seeking answers, you are here to preach and proselytize. Hydroman has just as valid of an appointment, to show the lack of critical thinking among some of the blind faithful.

This thread was started to share a video about one woman's vision of Hell, and hopefully scare people into submission. It is perfectly acceptable to try to establish the opposite view, as well as argue alternative theories.

No one here is expecting a definitive answer to God, the universe and eternity, the purpose of life and existence. This is a discussion forum, not a revival meeting in which the unbelievers are unwelcome.

I've said this to you before, and I'll say it again, you should attack the content of the post, not the poster.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by stupid girl
Some days I get a gold star because I give someone love and mercy instead of punching them in the butt cheek like they probably deserve.
I do deserve that. Just don't forget to tie my hands up first. I don't want to be tempted to put them back there while you punish me.



Originally posted by stupid girl
It would not be easy.
However, I don't see forgivness as an option, I see it as a requirement. I may not be able to forgive him on my own, but I know I would be able to forgive him by the strength afforded to me by grace through Christ. I am also aware of the fact that the enemy works through other people to gain access to you.
Just because I would forgive someone, doesn't mean I have to start a supper club with them. If he was hungry and asked me for food, yes, I would feed him. But I see no reason for us to all sit around the table and chat like one big happy family.
Are you answering me this way because you're suppose to? Would this really be how things played out?



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by stupid girl
thinks he already has them.....yes
ask 5 hundred and fifty eleven quadrillion.....yes
try to catch you in a contradiction.....yes
frustrate you....yes
endless questioning that never ends....yes

However, even though he is a colossal smartass, loves to annoy certain people and entertains himself through petty argument, I truly believe he has a good heart.
Meh, at least you think I have a good heart. I suppose I don't know how to go about asking questions or having a discussion in things that goes against what you believe without coming off as a smartass.

Again, I don't think I have the answers. But, I do think you guys think you DO have them, and will NOT question your own beliefs. You will NOT attempt to think contrary to what you believe because you DO think you have the correct belief.



Originally posted by stupid girl
I'm not fooled by his childish endeavors, nor do I think he even believes half of what he says. And even though I think he knows the truth and is simply testing the boundaries of said truth, I will continue to answer his questions, no matter how inane they may be, because that is what I'm supposed to do.
Nonetheless, we both know that you can only ignore the signs and play in traffic for so long until you get blind-sided by a MAC truck. Until then, I also believe that even if there is just one person out there, one total stranger that I never meet, one single solitary unknown soul that silently reads these forums, who is in some small way blessed by his & my exchange, then I consider it well worth the effort.
God will never give up, my sweet NuTty brother, and neither should we. And I know you won't. Even though he is aggravating as hell sometimes.

I don't know, I thought our conversations were interesting. Maybe I shouldn't hang out here any more. I didn't realize I aggravated so many people. I think I will take a break from here, for you guys' sake.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by windword
Respectfully, the same could be said of you. You're not here seeking answers, you are here to preach and proselytize. Hydroman has just as valid of an appointment, to show the lack of critical thinking among some of the blind faithful.

This thread was started to share a video about one woman's vision of Hell, and hopefully scare people into submission. It is perfectly acceptable to try to establish the opposite view, as well as argue alternative theories.

No one here is expecting a definitive answer to God, the universe and eternity, the purpose of life and existence. This is a discussion forum, not a revival meeting in which the unbelievers are unwelcome.

I've said this to you before, and I'll say it again, you should attack the content of the post, not the poster.
Thank you windword. And if I've done the same to them, I am sorry. Ya'll be good.




























posted on May, 27 2012 @ 02:57 PM
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No prob, I like following your posts and threads. Didn't I read in one of your posts a while back, that you actually used to be a missionary, and that you have come out of Christianity, just as the Hebrews came out of the slavery of Egypt?



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 04:03 PM
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You don't aggravate me, Sugar.

Frustrate me sometimes, yes. But anything other than that for me personally, no.
But I can tell that you have the ability to really get under a few other's skin. And knowing that they can always choose to ignore you, yet never do, should reflect something positive towards you.

My frustration comes from me knowing that you don't believe much of what you say. I know you don't and you are not fooling me. It reminds me of when a person's child tells their parent, "I hate you!!" It is said out of childish anger and the parent knows they don't really mean it. That is how I see your relationship with God right now. I sense a great disappointment in the God you were raised to believe in and the God that actually is.

I'll go ahead and say it, and this may well likely really offend someone but I really don't care because, as God as my witness, it's the truth and I know it through personal experience--- Assembly of God and Pentecostal churches have reached a point of almost total delusion because of their emphasis on supernatural experience being the way to worship God.

You don't worship God to get something, you worship Him because you love Him. You don't worship God so you can have a "supernatural" experience in front of other believers to make yourself look holy. Worship is not a contest among believers with the most obnoxious display of faith making you the winner. Anything gained through worship is merely lagniappe. Even Jesus said to go hunker down in a closet when you spend time with Him.

I am real. As I live and breathe, I am the real deal. I am not a liar, I am brutally honest at times, much to the dismay and offense to others. I have never seen "God" or an angel or Jesus or heaven or hell.
But I have done drugs, judged others, talked about them behind their back, I've fornicated, I've doubted God, I've been angry at God, I've been a glutton, I've been envious, I've lusted, I've hurt other people, I've been selfish, proud and stubborn, I've even stolen things and broke into someone's house when I was younger. In the 8th grade the girl down the street used to cut herself and tried to get me to traipse out into the damn woods with her to conjure up a demon. How ignorant is that?
And even though I have never seen God, or Jesus, not even in a slice of toast, or His mother Mary in a cloud, or an apostle, even though God has "shown" me N-O-T-H-I-N-G and I have no idea what neither heaven or nor hell truly look like, I know He is Who He says He is and I know He is not a liar and His promises are true. No matter what version or translation those promises come from, I know that He will deliver. Even when I doubt it, my spirit knows otherwise. And so does yours. And that is why I will continue to pray for you until the day I die, because you are His and He will never give up. Besides, we will never meet and be able to cut-up like retards and make each other laugh until our sides hurt if you're hanging out with the devil & his dong in a firey inferno burning for eternity. Lol, okay that was a bit brutal.


p.s. and I certainly can't spend eternity wondering who J.S. is



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by Hydroman
Meh, at least you think I have a good heart. I suppose I don't know how to go about asking questions or having a discussion in things that goes against what you believe without coming off as a smartass.

Again, I don't think I have the answers. But, I do think you guys think you DO have them, and will NOT question your own beliefs. You will NOT attempt to think contrary to what you believe because you DO think you have the correct belief.


I know you have a good heart.
I am a fellow smartass.
I've never claimed to have or think I have all the answers, nor insinuated such. If anything, I've only claimed NOT to have all the answers.
I regularly question my beliefs. And they regularly survive intact.
I have been college-educated in world religions, history, literature and art. My faith is the result of a genuine search for truth, in which I had the opportunity to scrutinize and contemplate various alternatives. My conclusion was that all the alternatives are flawed and can only squat in the shadow of Jesus Christ. Good people don't go to heaven. Only forgiven people. That is the only way it can be just and fair.
And even though I know I have chosen wisely, I do not force my beliefs on others. Feel free to read every single post I've made on this website.
If someone asks me a question, I will answer to the best of my ability, but I do not hunt anyone down and harass them. Not only do I consider it a waste of my time to try and convince someone of something they don't even want to hear about in the first place, but I am acutely aware of the fact that we are responsible for working out our own salvation.






I don't know, I thought our conversations were interesting. Maybe I shouldn't hang out here any more. I didn't realize I aggravated so many people. I think I will take a break from here, for you guys' sake.


our conversations are always interesting and many times make me laugh.

quit being a bit fat titty baby



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