reply to post by doomedtoday
employers would either be raising the wages they pay out, or losing their employees....
there is still lots of open land out there, and I kind of think that before a worker is gonna sit and watch his family starve out in the cold, he will
settle on some open land (who cares about property rights when one is starving!!) and well, he'll let the land provide for him!!! or he will just
take what he needs in the cities, because well, who cares about property rights when they are starving!!
welfare is just the bandaide that they slapped onto society, it's not the problem, or the cause of the crappy economic situation we are in now!!!
the poor don't consume that much, so well, can't blame them for the trade imbalance. they don't speculate on the housing market or trade in the
deravatives market, or decide to take the nation to war upon war. so you can't really blame that on them. they weren't the ones that decided that
their jobs should be shipped off to third world countries for cheaper labor costs or the right to throw their toxic garbage anywhere they wanted!
they aren't the problem, they are the symptom a alot of problems that exist in our society!!
and these problems have been festering in our society since the 70's!
even if they did drop welfare, there is no way that we could cut taxes now!! we owe too many people too much money, not so much because of welfare
but rather because the wall street gamblers lost their bets, there's a ton of bogus securities scattered across the globe that are not worthless, and
since fraud was prevalent in every aspect of their creation, well, they will all come flocking back to their originators, who will have to buy them
and of course, our gov't can't stand to see their rich buddies fail, so they are having the taxpayers foot the bill!! there is no way that taxes
will go down, at least not for us common folk!
if mommy and daddy have had their iras raided to the point that they have been, their savings diministed by inflation as much as it has, and their
social security and medicare taken from them, well, think about this...
are you willing to sit by and watch mommy and daddy starve be homeless?? or are you gonna do everything in your power to help them out?? that's
right!! they want you to let them off the hook on that one, and take care of mommy and daddy, along with your own family, the rest of their lives, so
they can have bigger mansions!! more vacations to exotic lands, private jets, and of course be able to buy more power in washington and the state
at least for me, there is a clear line drawn in the sand!! if I can't afford the food I need, or a roof over my head, well, you can forget about me
working! that will be the time that I either head for that open land, (since if a person is hungry enough or depsarate enough, well who cares about
personal property!!) and I will take my chances with mother nature!! I would rather die free than work as a slave and be miserable!!
each person has to decide this on their own though, so well, good luck to yas!!
our society doesn't need an end to welfare, it needs a complete overhaul, of our economy, the way our cities are laid out, of the way our economy
functions ( or doesn't function), but more importantly, how we think and interact with each other...
a society where half the people can't even see enough value in so many of the workers who they are counting on to do their jobs to be concerned about
them having their needs met, ain't gonna be "charitable" to the strangers that they get absolutely nothing from!
if you are operating a business, not pocketing the bulk of the profits instead of ensuring your employees have their needs met, then you have no
business complaining about the welfare state!! you are a major part of the problem!