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Yes I am sorry to say that you are wrong - Welfare dollars and "private" dollars are not segregated in the economy, a dollar you have in your pocket could very well have been introduced into circulation by a welfare recipient
I think the more shocking thing is how you guys can demonize the idea of feeding
hungry Americans.
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
Exposing what true progressives want to do to this country is not trolling....if you think what you believe in makes people mad than that is for YOU to deal with not me.....
Hillary Clinton has admitted she is a progressive and Obama is also one he just doesn't have the $%^# to admit it...because as we all know he only says what gets him votes when he needs them. Socialists/progressives believe the means of production should be owned by the workers and that wealth should be redistributed in ways such as welfare which the op and I seem to disagree with...if the op has a problem with my posts than he can tell me himself...thank you.
Originally posted by neo96
That is a matter of opinion which people are free to disagree with what people fail to see you can either lead,follow or become the victim must like history has shown.
Before world war 1 and world war 2 America really had no military, but we did have the necessary will drive and resources to transform in to that most famous arsenal of democracy.
The rest of the world arms and modernizes a point of which i have previously posted, Time waits for no man the purpose of the military is to ensure this nation exist's.
By private industry again let someone else shoulder the burden of cost the world we all know today is due to the fact someone came up with an idea to better their lives and make a buck off it thus creating wealth,jobs,careers and opportunities for others.
The possibilites are indeed endless when you get the government off the neck of the people.
You can thank the nazis for most of the technology. It was called project paperclip and is declassified. Werner Von Braun lead the effort to the moon during 70-72, after he developed the v2 rockets for germany.
The russians and chinese are light years behind america thanks to area 51. stealth fighters and stealth bombers costing trillions. Wasted money imo!
sounds good on paper but the companies can keep the technology under wrap for as long as they want. If the technology belongs to private hands it means it does NOT belong to the public; ie me and you! is that what you really want or do you want technology that belongs to americans as a whole?
If we don't like government then I suppose the constitution allows us the right to change it. Second amendment comes to light.
You can create a thousand straw man arguements to make a case for capitalism over a mixed economy but a ponzi scheme still means the people who invest first reap the most benefits and those that invest last lose everything.
Straw Man (Fallacy Of Extension):
attacking an exaggerated or caricatured version of your opponent's position.
For example, the claim that "evolution means a dog giving birth to a cat."
Another example: "Senator Jones says that we should not fund the attack submarine program. I disagree entirely. I can't understand why he wants to leave us defenseless like that."
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Straw man
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"Man of straw" redirects here. For the novel by Heinrich Mann, see Der Untertan.
A straw man is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Beanskinner
Yes I am sorry to say that you are wrong - Welfare dollars and "private" dollars are not segregated in the economy, a dollar you have in your pocket could very well have been introduced into circulation by a welfare recipient
Not wrong never said "segregated" per say the difference is income tax and welfare reciepents are not paying in most cases anything whatsoever.
You are misrepresenting capitalism to attack socialism.
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
You can create a thousand straw man arguements to make a case for capitalism over a mixed economy but a ponzi scheme still means the people who invest first reap the most benefits and those that invest last lose everything.
Capitalism is a Ponzi scheme??
What exactly do you propose, professor; a mixed economy? WTF is that? Nationalizing BIG BUSINESS??
Where has that worked for ALL OF THE PEOPLE?
edit on 27-5-2012 by seabag because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by Beanskinner
But the point you are missing is that it was not "government" money to begin with, it was a taxpayers money that they worked hard for and should have been able to decide how it got distributed.....
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
You have some studying to do...socialism is putting the means of production in the ownership of the workers
nationalism is putting the means of production in the ownership of the government.
Obama is doing both splitting ownership between Unions (workers) and government (bailouts) slowly taking private ownership away.
The progressives run under the Democratic party in order to win elections because they would never get in under a Progressive party line...just like the Tea Party runs under the GOP line.
Have I helped your confusion, man???
And I am a woman by the way, man.