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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 10:50 AM
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Jesus, as described in the New Testament, was most likely crucified on Friday April 3, 33 A.D. The latest investigation, reported in the journal International Geology Review, focused on earthquake activity at the Dead Sea, located 13 miles from Jerusalem. The Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 27, mentions that an earthquake coincided with the crucifixion:





Varves, which are annual layers of deposition in the sediments, reveal that at least two major earthquakes affected the core: a widespread earthquake in 31 B.C. and an early first century seismic event that happened sometime between 26 A.D. and 36 A.D. The latter period occurred during “the years when Pontius Pilate was procurator of Judea and when the earthquake of the Gospel of Matthew is historically constrained,” Williams said. "The day and date of the crucifixion (Good Friday) are known with a fair degree of precision," he said. But the year has been in question. In terms of textual clues to the date of the crucifixion, Williams quoted a Nature paper authored by Colin Humphreys and Graeme Waddington. Williams summarized their work as follows: All four gospels and Tacitus in Annals (XV,44) agree that the crucifixion occurred when Pontius Pilate was procurator of Judea from 26-36 AD. All four gospels say the crucifixion occurred on a Friday. All four gospels agree that Jesus died a few hours before the beginning of the Jewish Sabbath (nightfall on a Friday). The synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) indicate that Jesus died before nightfall on the 14th day of Nisan; right before the start of the Passover meal. John’s gospel differs from the synoptics; apparently indicating that Jesus died before nightfall on the 15th day of Nisan. When data about the Jewish calendar and astronomical calculations are factored in, a handful of possible dates result, with Friday April 3, 33 A.D. being the best match, according to the researchers.


More and more evidence is always found to prove the bible. It is real people. time to wake up!
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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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This guy comes to the same conclusion by the stars and a verse in Revelation about the dragon and the woman. Interesting OP and this video gives a second proof. The eclipse that happened is viewed in this video from the perspective of the moon. very interesting.


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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by stonebutterfly
date of crucifixion




Jesus, as described in the New Testament, was most likely crucified on Friday April 3, 33 A.D. The latest investigation, reported in the journal International Geology Review, focused on earthquake activity at the Dead Sea, located 13 miles from Jerusalem. The Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 27, mentions that an earthquake coincided with the crucifixion:





Varves, which are annual layers of deposition in the sediments, reveal that at least two major earthquakes affected the core: a widespread earthquake in 31 B.C. and an early first century seismic event that happened sometime between 26 A.D. and 36 A.D. The latter period occurred during “the years when Pontius Pilate was procurator of Judea and when the earthquake of the Gospel of Matthew is historically constrained,” Williams said. "The day and date of the crucifixion (Good Friday) are known with a fair degree of precision," he said. But the year has been in question. In terms of textual clues to the date of the crucifixion, Williams quoted a Nature paper authored by Colin Humphreys and Graeme Waddington. Williams summarized their work as follows: All four gospels and Tacitus in Annals (XV,44) agree that the crucifixion occurred when Pontius Pilate was procurator of Judea from 26-36 AD. All four gospels say the crucifixion occurred on a Friday. All four gospels agree that Jesus died a few hours before the beginning of the Jewish Sabbath (nightfall on a Friday). The synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) indicate that Jesus died before nightfall on the 14th day of Nisan; right before the start of the Passover meal. John’s gospel differs from the synoptics; apparently indicating that Jesus died before nightfall on the 15th day of Nisan. When data about the Jewish calendar and astronomical calculations are factored in, a handful of possible dates result, with Friday April 3, 33 A.D. being the best match, according to the researchers.


More and more evidence is always found to prove the bible. It is real people. time to wake up!
edit on 25-5-2012 by stonebutterfly because: (no reason given)


there some good things in the bible(especially in the new testament) but most of it is rubbish. Jesus was real, he was a jnana yogi. NEarly every master has said "I am Brahman", " God and I are one", all very similar things that Christ said. The historical person JEsus has very little to do with the tragedy that is known as Christianity and kooks that make it u. His words have been twisted up and misunderstood for nearly 1700 years

and it's interesting to note that Christ is prophesied in the vedas. look to bhavishya purana 19: 20-30
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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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Matthew 27:50-53 And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit. At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split. The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people.(NIV)



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by stonebutterfly



Matthew 27:50-53 And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit. At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split. The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people.(NIV)


there was also an eclipse that day that scientist have verified



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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The "resurrection" of Jesus, with the disappearance of his body, sounds pretty convenient.

What of the Gnostic Gospels, all of which were excluded from the official compilation and all of which identify Jesus as a mortal teacher?



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 11:16 AM
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I don't disagree with the point, just the conclusion -

I have problems with this:

Williams summarized their work as follows: All four gospels and Tacitus in Annals (XV,44) agree that the crucifixion occurred when Pontius Pilate was procurator of Judea from 26-36 AD. All four gospels say the crucifixion occurred on a Friday. All four gospels agree that Jesus died a few hours before the beginning of the Jewish Sabbath (nightfall on a Friday). The synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) indicate that Jesus died before nightfall on the 14th day of Nisan; right before the start of the Passover meal. John’s gospel differs from the synoptics; apparently indicating that Jesus died before nightfall on the 15th day of Nisan. When data about the Jewish calendar and astronomical calculations are factored in, a handful of possible dates result, with Friday April 3, 33 A.D. being the best match, according to the researchers.

1) The gospels say nothing about the crucifixion occurring on Friday/'the sixth day of the week' - they state that he was killed on the day of preparation, usually referring to Friday, but also referring to the days prior to the High Holy Days (so could be any day of the week, depending on where 14 Nisan falls that year) which are also considered Sabbaths.
2) A Friday/Sunday burial and resurrection does not fit Christ's own sign of three days and three nights in the belly of the earth (and the body was already gone at sunrise sunday morning).
3) AD/CE 30 had Nisan 14 (passover) occurring on Wednesday April 3rd, which would square with a Sabbath-day resurrection to account for 3 days/nights as well as the body being gone by sunday sunrise.
4) the Babylonian Talmud (I believe) and some various other non-christian jewish sources recount a series of ongoing signs indicating rejecting or lack of acceptance by god, occurring 40 years prior to the destruction of the Temple & sacking of Rome in 70AD

Otherwise agreed...people may quibble over some small details and meanings, but I can find no reason to doubt basic historical realities of the life of Christ and the earliest church.
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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
The "resurrection" of Jesus, with the disappearance of his body, sounds pretty convenient.

What of the Gnostic Gospels, all of which were excluded from the official compilation and all of which identify Jesus as a mortal teacher?


have you ever heard of ramalinga? He lived in 1800s and a lot of similarities between his body transmutation into light and that of the Christ's

and ur second line is bull#. there is really no consensus within the gnostics. they were split on the issue
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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
The "resurrection" of Jesus, with the disappearance of his body, sounds pretty convenient.

What of the Gnostic Gospels, all of which were excluded from the official compilation and all of which identify Jesus as a mortal teacher?

What OF the gnostic gospels, exactly? I haven't read most of them - do they claim Christ was not crucified?

As regards the...convenience?...of the resurrection, implications aside - there's not much reason to doubt it. The jews and romans had every reason to produce the body if it was available, or Christ himself if he was still alive, and they also documented the execution themselves for historical review.

The disciples obviously did not steal the body and then make the rest up, as this is internally inconsistent with the witness of their lives, the following accounts of them, and their willing martyrdom - all at the cost of no tangible benefit.

So...where's the convenience, exactly? It was a terrible event, you can't really talk around it (although men have tried for almost two thousand years, failing each time in light of the weight of history and evidence), and it's just up to each of us to determine how we want to interpret and apply that for ourselves.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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The Council of Nicaea had to vote on the issue of Jesus' divinity. They agreed that in attributing Jesus with the "son of God" dogma, and giving him godly status, they not only made his authority unquestionable, but established themselves as the leading authority on his life.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 11:24 AM
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There is one person whose involvement is questionable: Mary Magdelene.

There are accounts hinting that Mary and Jesus retired to France, where they would be safe from discovery and persecution.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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The Council of Nicaea had to vote on the issue of Jesus' divinity. They agreed that in attributing Jesus with the "son of God" dogma, and giving him godly status, they not only made his authority unquestionable, but established themselves as the leading authority on his life.


it was not a foreign idea because the council though. and while jesus was divine we all are divine. that is why there is so much confusion. i mean thats one of the reasons they killed him, he claimed to be god. And while we all are he is a complete expression of God. if look at what many other hindu sages said such as sai baba and others they have said similar things



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by stonebutterfly

More and more evidence is always found to prove the bible. It is real people. time to wake up!
edit on 25-5-2012 by stonebutterfly because: (no reason given)


This doesn't prove the Bible. It proves that ONE historical event (earthquake) happened, was recorded...and ended up in the Bible as a happened event.

Just one event, not the entirety of "it" (the Bible).



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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There is one person whose involvement is questionable: Mary Magdelene.

There are accounts hinting that Mary and Jesus retired to France, where they would be safe from discovery and persecution.

While I definitely respect Mary, and will even allow a possible undocumented (clearly so, anyway) relationship between her and Jesus, I've never been made aware of any actual support for this theory, while there seems to be plenty shooting it down - from a quick bit of looking, it seems like it didn't even originate until the 13th century or so.

Do you happen to have any sources you recommend for additional reading on this, for further review?

Regardless - unless you could clarify further, that doesn't really appear to figure much into this discussion anyway (despite being very interesting, granted) - as it still leaves the documented-from-several-perspectives crucifixion as a real-world event; it would seem to only really impact the claim of the ascension, and I'm not sure how much else beyond that...unless the claim there is also that Christ wasn't crucified.

Could you elaborate or clarify any of this for us? Thanks in advance.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 01:58 PM
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interesting video link

but, to myself... there is a straight forward reliance on what the Rabbi's considered 'dark & sinister'...the Zodiac and the esorteric/cosmic happenings that pinpointed the Son-Of-Man birth and slaying by beating along with crucifiction
some 35 years later

i would like to know more on the 'census' that Herod was commanded to undertake in the land of palestine/judea
wouldn't that in itself pinpoint the time frame of the Bethelem birth...instead of looking to cosmological events like the conjunction of Jupiter with Regulus in Leo at the procreation
then the conjunction of Jupiter with Venus as Virgo was rising ...at the birth date in Bethlehem


to much questions about just why the prophecies of the Messiah would rely so much on Astrological 'signs' and astronomical 'signs' in the first place--- because that kind of stuff was for & by the heathens and Babylonians and the magical Chaldeans...and had no place in Judian/Hebrew/or the newly formed Christian cults


Unless... the 1st decade & century 'Christ' was in fact the very first anti-christ that was born/created via the metaphysical/esorteric mysteries that the learned Kabbalists engineered or orchestrated...
and perhaps a deluded Jesus tried his best to make the ministry follow scripture... but the other cosmic events were so-much back-fill that was adjusted 'after the fact' to make the interpetations seem valid/real/applicable


this stuff is layers upon layers deep... just like the proverbial 'rabbit hole' analogy

i discard the 'deity' answer, men are wiley & crafty & can perform illusions par=excellence



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 02:50 PM
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Hi Bigmoneyme

If R. Yehoshua bar Yosef was executed for armed sedition against Rome c. Pesach (March/April) 36 CE, on the day/night of a Full Moon (1st day of Pesach/Passover) - how can there be an eclipse of the sun ?

Wouldn't a full moon scenario make an ecclipse impossible (sun side opposite moon side on a full moon)

Or maybe the whole midrashic Tendenz in the gospels are just narrative pathetic fallacy....intended to fulfil alleged prophecies such as the Aram. targum to Joel 2:31

'The sun will be pitch darkness and the moon shall become blood red just prior to the Coming of the great and dreadful Day of YHWH'

I suppose a blood red moon is possible c. March 27 in the year 36 CE but that would be night, not day i.e. post crucifixion...

Unless the gospel 3-hour separations are 'fake' i.e. it was the 3rd hour and the are crucifying him ; and it was the 6th hour and darkness fell upon the land of Yisro'el...and it was the 9th hour and ho Iesous uttered a loud cry....

One has to remember that there might not have been any actual eyewitnesses to the execution of this man who wrote anything down (possible exception of the witness to the blood and the urine flow listed in the 4th canonical Greek gospel = 'acording to John the Elder' who ever he was, 19:34 'this is the disciple who saw the blood and the urine...' to which someone added in the margin : 'yes, and WE know that HIS testimony is reliable...' ) whoever WE and HIM are...

So we really don't know what the weather conditions were like 'historically' at the time.

If you compare the accounts in the 1st canonical Greek Gospel ('according to Matthew' whoever he was) and the 3rd canonical Greek gospel ('according to Luke' whoever he was) and line them up next to each other you will see alot of differences, and what they share in common is mainly derived from the 2nd canonical Greek Gospel - according to Mark, whoever he was - and also Psalm 22 and Isaiah 53 and other passages like Joel chapter 2 especially in the Aramaic targum paraphrase versions -

In other words you are dealing not with History here...but with Midrashic interpretations of 'prophecy fulfillment' - not exactly a scientific enterprise by any stretch !



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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I have a question.

Didn't jesus live to be roughly 33 years old?
Wasn't Jesus born around 4 A.D?

I get the premise of tracing earthquake's around a year, but wouldn't he of died between 35 and 40 A.D?

It appears to me they were looking for earthquakes in the wrong year. Am I missing something?

~
Of course, there's all those writings that would of inevitably happened when a bunch of Zombies showed themselves to a town. That had to of gotten on paper if it happened, especially along with everything else that happened that day. I'd expect that'd be far too memorable to not have recorded by everyone. We could simply look at all those writings and deduce a date, right?



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 05:44 PM
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Hi xxsomexpersonxx

The author of the 4th canonical Greek gospel ('according to John the Elder' whoever he was) apparently when a very old man of 96 told a young convert (age 14 !) named Polycarp that R. Yehoshua bar Yosef the Galilean Nazir was 48 years old when he was executed for armed sedition against Rome at Pesach ('passover') c. 36 CE
which suggests that he was born c. 12 BCE, said to have been the same year (BCE 12) that Herod the Great laid the new foundations for his Temple expansion

'Forty and Six years was this temple in the building and you claim you can destroy it and build it up again without hands in 3 days?' to which the editor of the MSS wrote in the margin : but he was speaking of the Temple of his body...' which suggests that his body (temple) was 46 years old in 34 CE.

or, 'You are not even 50 years of age, and yet you claim to have known Avraham ?' - with 46 years old being 'not yet fifty'

It is the 3rd canonical Greek gospel ('according to Luke' whoever he was) which claims 'now when ho Iesous of Nazareth began to preach, he was about 30 years old...' - which was the official minimum age of being a Rabbi in later years, and also in the Dead Sea Scrolls, to be a teacher you had to be at least 30 years of age.

So the author of the 3rd canonical Gospel may have been saying 'when he began his ministry, he was AT LEAST thirty years old' i.e. not younger than 30.

Either way, it is the tradition that lay behind the 4th gospel which was handed down to Polycarp when he heard 'John the Elder' then aged c. 96 years old being led into a congregation laying on a stretcher (being unable to walk) and give a 5 word sermon ('little children, love one another') then being taken out on a stretcher - about 'Iesous' being 48 years old when he died (c. 36 CE) and this tradition was reported by Irenaeus who apparently had met Polycarp when Ireneaus was a young man, and Polycarp was old...

Go figure...



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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 05:56 PM
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I was always under the impression from reading,his teachings began around 33 yrs old, and it was never stated how old he was when crucified.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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Are u not all forgetting about that other EARTHQUAKEEEEE,,,,,

the one that happens when HIS foot touch's ,,,this Earth at the Mount of Olives,,
u know,,
the big one.
sorry L.A,,,






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