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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by fleabit

Of course anyone can post on here, but I won't waste my time with debunkers, but would enjoy discussing the actual content with those that are interested.


Do you mean you'll discuss it with skeptics? Or in your mind, if someone doesn't believe all of this mumbo-jumbo, they are a debunker?

You can have an open mind you know, but still keep it from leaking out.


These claims are impossible to prove or disprove, given that the main source we would use to disprove them would be NASA, which took 30 years to tell the public they found water on Mars and can't even bring itself to tell us there is a giant face on Mars - and can't obviously be trusted.

Since the claims are impossible to prove or disprove from where we are sitting, the next best thing is to discuss them as a hypothetical exercise - is that hard to understand?

Why waste time with debunkers when no definitive conclusion can be reached, and the most repetitive of them have forced their opinion upon us ad nauseum.
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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by vkey08

Lessie, you hate doom porn, but you post it any chance you get (Nibiru etc) ----- FAIL



I have no idea who "Lessie" is, but whomever it is, he/she is not me.

I sense that you are really full of anger Vkey, you should relax, life is short.

Peace be with you and your family.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 01:19 AM
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Topic One - Sun triangle
Yes, the triangle seen on the Sun is a transportation portal. Apparently all systems Suns represent an equilibrium point in reference to adjacent systems and thus the focus of high energy detectable over cosmic distances. "Inner" NASA did not censor the images in order to cause some confusion in the alternative media. (I don't understand this last point)


I kind of have to disagree about the "transportation portal" thing. A star, any star, does not have the mass, nor, energy to open a traversable wormhole. Plus, with other technologies, such a "mass" and power source can be portable, and contained on a "pratical" large ship.

The notion of "high energy" detectable, etc. is only comon sense. Terrestrial has been able to detect individual stars over quite large distances.



Topic Two - the moon and rational for the portal
The moon was calibrated and adjusted in orbit about a billion years ago to provide the "goldilocks" conditions the earth experiences. To do this large ships had to be transported here, that is when the portal was created.


Current Terrestrial thought oon the age of the moon places it at more like 4.53 billion years old. While, this may not be "highly" accurate, alternate science places the age at somewhere between 3.5 - 4.5 billion years, so it would appear that Earth's guess is spot on. Also, One should consider that the moon is not required for life on Earth. To be sure, it has olded the life here, but, it was not the "creating" factor..



Topic Three - Ships recharging from the Sun


Makes me wonder just what kind of technology would be used. Every one of the 15 - 20 species visiting Earth (sorry not the 70 in the vid.) use zero-point energy systems; the power of a small star in a space of less 250,000 square meters. This ower suply is more than suffecient to create short lived "traversable" wormholes.

I also have to wonder just "what in the hell" would a species do with a ship that large. Anything larger that a very few kilometers on a side is not very parctical nor cost effective.



Topic Four - Planet X/Nibiru
Apparently one of the alien races has modified it's orbit and it will now not pass as close to earth as it's orbit would have indicated last year, causing much less destruction.


I have to side with the skeptics here. One would "think" that with all the ameture astronomers on Earth, that Nibiru would have been seen and photographed, and that all the data would be in the public domain, yet, no one has seen it. In my attempts to understand this Nibiru stuff, I have consulted with Andromedan astr-physicists, Terrestrial planetary modeling software, even my own "psychic" senses; in no case have I found any evidence for a planet nearth called Nibire, or one that could "fit". I did however, find a planet, who's native people's name for it is very much like "Nibiru"; it is the Sirian homeworld.



Topic Five - Sun polarity reversal


As I understand it; this is rather common.



Topic Six - help for the non-elites


According to the video, the Sirians, arcturans, and some others are helping with this Except, there are no "formal" relations between the Sirius / Orion alliance and the Arcturian Collective. Further, there are no Arcturian operations near Earth at this time.



Topic Seven - Alien False Flags
Don't believe in them! Mythi says if aliens wanted to harm us they could have done it already and we have no power to stop it - but they are here to help - and the elites final play when they realize that fact may be an alien false flag - not a stretch if you have been mentally prepped by movies like Battleship, Independence Day, Battle LA and about a hundred others.


Actually, I have to agree here. There will be NO alien false flag. If one is attempted, the "aliens" will be real, and potentially unfriendly.

As to whether Earth can defend itself; Well, the aliens that would be interested in Earth don't have technology that much better than Earth...so Earth has a very good chance.

Etharzi od Oma


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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 03:08 AM
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Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
According to the video, the Sirians, arcturans, and some others are helping with this Except, there are no "formal" relations between the Sirius / Orion alliance and the Arcturian Collective. Further, there are no Arcturian operations near Earth at this time.


AFAIK, there are at least around half a dozen different subgroups of Sirians. Morally/energetically speaking, it seems there are both STS and STO groups, similar to Earth in that sense; but apparently the two don't spend a lot of time with each other, in the Sirians' case; although I could be wrong.

My twin is presumably STO; but aside from her, the rest of them will have nothing to do with me, and even she doesn't in particularly direct terms. I have a tendency to panic and freak out and screw things up in terms of my relations with people...both human and potentially otherwise.

Before I get the usual lame accusations of schizophrenia or narcissistic attention seeking, take what I've said above as pure speculation. It could in reality very well be complete BS for all I know. Understand also that I'm not making money from anyone, or asking for any; and I'm also not going to be making any outlandish claims. If you want to think I'm nuts, feel free; given the nature of my twin's initial contact with me back in 2007 or so at least, I would at times be inclined to agree with you.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Actually, I have to agree here. There will be NO alien false flag. If one is attempted, the "aliens" will be real, and potentially unfriendly.


I don't claim to know a lot about the reptilians, but from what I have seen, (assuming that they exist at all, of course, which is another can of worms) they mostly seem to be all bark and no real bite. They seem to enjoy scaring the absolute fecal matter out of people, but if you get past the initial "boo!" moment, there doesn't really seem to be much else that they can do to you.

That's not to say that I'll be inviting them over for tea and biscuits any time soon, mind you; but I still get the feeling that it's the idea of them that's more frightening than the actual beings themselves, in that sense. I suspect the main reason why I really wouldn't want them around is simply because energetically they'd be akin to raw sewage, rather than because I'd really be afraid of them. I've had experience with jokers in various different forms actually trying to project fear at me before; once I know that what I'm being sent isn't mine, then while containing it can be a little difficult, I can usually avoid acting on it.

Some of the more negative ETs use fear like a projected beam weapon, in telepathic/empathic terms. They'll throw fear at you from their own minds, and then trick you into believing that you're actually generating said fear yourself. Said fear tends to be sufficiently intense that if you buy into it, it can be literally crippling. If you know it's not from you though, and you can resist their other games, there's not much else they can do.

My main psychological Achilles' heel is the amount of residual guilt I've still got over having left Christianity. I've had that used against me before, more than once.
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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 03:20 AM
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Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE
You obviously don't know about MJ 12, those were the powerful earth leaders who were supposed to inform the people of the world,


That shows YOU know nothing about "MJ 12" - it is just a hoax!

Just like the youtube video's!



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE

Originally posted by vkey08

Lessie, you hate doom porn, but you post it any chance you get (Nibiru etc) ----- FAIL



I have no idea who "Lessie" is, but whomever it is, he/she is not me.

I sense that you are really full of anger Vkey, you should relax, life is short.

Peace be with you and your family.


Lessie is short for Let Us See, maybe you should step away from your computer and your gloom and doom for a moment you'd know how people talked in the real world if you did that....

So I will reiterate in PlanetXisHere language..


Let Us See (better?) You complain about the video's Doom Porn, Yet you take any chance you get to post all about how we're all going to die in December... NIbiru this and Oh my god have you seen this doomy thing on Biblypleadies (sp) and OH MY GOD NIBIRU IS COMING RUN FOR YOUR LIVES GET PREPARED IF YOU DON'T WE ARE GOING OT DIE AHHHHH"

That's Doom Porn sir..........plain simple and to the point

Oh and for the record, when I posted that response i was laughing hysterically hardly sad or angry, I find you and Anthra pitiful and feel sorry for the two of you, you both really need lives badly...

Now I'm goiing to go make some Coffee and relax watching Looney Tunes , hardly the mark of an angry individual...



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 07:38 AM
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No worries.

To folks like these, any number of difficult questions to answer are a "sign of anger." Or...whatever sign they need it to be at the moment.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 09:10 AM
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Someone to actually discuss the videos with! Wow, thanks Anthra for this nice gift!



I kind of have to disagree about the "transportation portal" thing. A star, any star, does not have the mass, nor, energy to open a traversable wormhole. Plus, with other technologies, such a "mass" and power source can be portable, and contained on a "pratical" large ship.

The notion of "high energy" detectable, etc. is only comon sense. Terrestrial has been able to detect individual stars over quite large distances.


Does it have to be a wormhole? Can it be another kind of teleport system? Or is the word "wormhole" used to generalize for all teleport systems?

Also, I think he mentioned that part of the energy was gained by being the focal point in this area of the galaxy, so even though alone the Sun may not have the mass or chemical energy - at the Sun's focal point there may be gravitational or magnetic powers of immense strength that T. humans are not aware of.

As for why not have the teleport technology on some ship, well, they have said before this portal on the Sun was used to transport enormous amounts of raw materials - which might be harder to do with a ship. And once it was set up for teleporting raw materials - it was convenient to use it for other purposes.



Current Terrestrial thought on the age of the moon places it at more like 4.53 billion years old. While, this may not be "highly" accurate, alternate science places the age at somewhere between 3.5 - 4.5 billion years, so it would appear that Earth's guess is spot on. Also, One should consider that the moon is not required for life on Earth. To be sure, it has olded the life here, but, it was not the "creating" factor..


I had read somewhere that the moon and it's tides were crucial for the develoment of life in the sea - but if much life was transported here from other worlds then the moon's role in earth's life creation doesn't seem so important.



Makes me wonder just what kind of technology would be used. Every one of the 15 - 20 species visiting Earth (sorry not the 70 in the vid.) use zero-point energy systems; the power of a small star in a space of less 250,000 square meters. This ower suply is more than suffecient to create short lived "traversable" wormholes.

I also have to wonder just "what in the hell" would a species do with a ship that large. Anything larger that a very few kilometers on a side is not very parctical nor cost effective.


Apparently the Krulians, the species with the large ships, the ones that also apparently diverted Nibiru from it's path, have had their home world system attacked and almost destroyed a few times - it is in the videos somewhere - and they decided it would be safer to roam the galaxy in a couple of these large ships - I forget
if there is just one or more. Apparenly they are at a much higher level in terms of development and tech than the alien giving these interviews.


On Nibiru, I would like to see more evidence as well, but I would also like to have some options ready if it is true.




As I understand it; this is rather common.


Yes, doesn't this happen every 11 years or something like that with the Sun?



Topic Six - help for the non-elites




According to the video, the Sirians, arcturans, and some others are helping with this Except, there are no "formal" relations between the Sirius / Orion alliance and the Arcturian Collective. Further, there are no Arcturian operations near Earth at this time.


As for what is going on with regards to this issue - I have no idea - but thanks for the info.



Actually, I have to agree here. There will be NO alien false flag. If one is attempted, the "aliens" will be real, and potentially unfriendly.

As to whether Earth can defend itself; Well, the aliens that would be interested in Earth don't have technology that much better than Earth...so Earth has a very good chance.


You have mentioned the names of many species - can you reveal which one(s) have the potential, or greatest potential (I'm sure all of them have the potential) to be unfriendly to us?

Plus, at first how do we discern betwee a T. human alien false flag and a real alien attack? I'm sure the truth would come out sooner or later, but at first it might be hard to get solid evidence.

I think what people are worried about is if were are about to be hit with some sort of cataclysm and friendly aliens finally reveal themselves to the world to help the non-elites - the elites will see it as an end of their reign and power and attempt through media disinformation to convince poeple that it is some kind of attack and not friendly help.

I'm very surprised to hear you say earth could defend itself. It has been less than 200 years since the Industrial Revolution and we would have a chance against aliens that have been travelling through space for thousands or millions of years?



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 09:15 AM
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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by vkey08
Let Us See (better?) You complain about the video's Doom Porn, Yet you take any chance you get to post all about how we're all going to die in December... NIbiru this and Oh my god have you seen this doomy thing on Biblypleadies (sp) and OH MY GOD NIBIRU IS COMING RUN FOR YOUR LIVES GET PREPARED IF YOU DON'T WE ARE GOING OT DIE AHHHHH"

That's Doom Porn sir..........plain simple and to the point

Oh and for the record, when I posted that response i was laughing hysterically hardly sad or angry, I find you and Anthra pitiful and feel sorry for the two of you, you both really need lives badly...

Now I'm goiing to go make some Coffee and relax watching Looney Tunes , hardly the mark of an angry individual...



I can I go on the record here with a few points so I don't have to repeat them or be "misquoted"?

I never said we're all going to die.

I never said Nibiru passing earth is a certainty.

It is impossible to prove or disrove Nibiru for average humans without a telescope - as NASA cannot be trusted. If they took 30 years to tell us they found water on Mars - they are clearly not forthcoming and cannot be trusted.

I have repeatedly said if Planet X is going to pass us it is survivable - at least I hope so - and since I have a small child I would like to have options, a Plan B. None of these options include any drastic measures such as killing pets, quitting jobs, or moving to remote locations.

These options do include having a month's supply of food and a couple weeks of water, and just looking on the map for a few locations that are hundreds of miles from any major coasts and at least a few hundred feet ASL - where if the Planet X passing did occur one could bug out to. People might want to think about radiation shiedling in case of any temporary disturbances in the atmosphere/magnetosphere - albeit a little more complicated but a bunch of sand and sand bags will do.

Even without any Planet X these are good OPTIONS to have (well, except for the shielding), as anyone paying attention to the economic situation realizes the US dollar's days are numbered, and a crash of the dollar could have short to medium term chaotic effects on society.

I do not see the harm in having a month's worth of food, a couple weeks worth of water, and to have thought about a bug out location - and would certainly question the agenda of anyone trying to dissuade people from even thinking about these issues.
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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by seagull
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I've been following these contactee stories for years... Dating from the fifties, up through today. ...and they all, every single one of them, say the same tired rhetorical nonsense... The aliens are here to save us...or words to that effect.

Yet when pressed for details, the contactee nearly always has nothing concrete to put forth. Or... said contactee "provides" proof, only to be proven to be an utter and complete fraud.

So...

The proof is?


Look up Steve Beckow + Linda Dillon + Neptune in Google, and you'll have plenty of reason to never trust garbage like this again. Besides, I never trust messages read by a text-to-speech program, in a channel where the comments are disabled, or require authorization (like SaLuSa). Too many red flags make my head explode.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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I've actually heard of these folks, though to be honest, I've not spent any time reading the stories. I'll have to look 'em up...



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 12:39 PM
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Since the claims are impossible to prove or disprove from where we are sitting, the next best thing is to discuss them as a hypothetical exercise - is that hard to understand?


That's not how it works my friend. The burden of proof lies on this fellow making extraordinary claims. It's not up to us to disprove this fiction.

This person makes unsubstantiated claims about an alien.. who further makes unsubstantiated claims about many topics that cannot be proven. But since you want to "discuss" it - your storyteller apparently didn't do his homework. Among his ridiculous claims (i.e. latching onto ANYthing that comes up on a board like this, and embellishing it for his videos), he said in video 80, that the moon was moved into place by large ships to form the perfect relationship between us and then sun so the "portal" would work.

Alas, this is not the case. According to the video (and your alien.. who somehow uses Earth jargon.. like false flag.. it's funny), "The ratio between the average distance from the Earth to the moon, and the average distance from Earth to the sun as well as the relationship between the diameters of the Sun and the Moon is a constant."

That of course is not true. The moon has been closer to the Earth, and is still moving away. The moon didn't perfectly "fill" the sun previously, and it won't again in the future. Hmm.. I sure hope your aliens accounted for tidal bulges with their portal, or they may have a very messy ending to their journey's here one day.


These videos are utter fiction. Of course, so is Nibiru, but you also steadfastly believe in it, so there probably will be no reasoning with you on either count.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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That's not how it works my friend. The burden of proof lies on this fellow making extraordinary claims. It's not up to us to disprove this fiction.


Your logic is a bit faulty. When I made my claim, I fully exected to provide evidence (Please understand; i said evidence NOT proof), Which of course I have. Then you and your "fellows" come along and, without attempting to understand said evidence, you dismiss it "out-of-hand". Then proceed to call me (or another) a fraud, hoaxer, delusional, etc. Those can only be your opinion, yet, you state them like it was absolute truth. When you do this, the burden of proof is taken away from the original claimant, and now rests solely on you.

So, how about we dispence with the mud slinging, and actually discuss these topics? If you don't want to, that's okay. If you are afraid, that's okay too. No one here is forcing you into this thread.

Also, "jumping up and down, stamping your feet, and yelling 'no', 'no', 'no'" is not a method for proving your point. It only shows that you have some deep seated issues with the subject matter.


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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE
Someone to actually discuss the videos with! Wow, thanks Anthra for this nice gift!

Does it have to be a wormhole? Can it be another kind of teleport system? Or is the word "wormhole" used to generalize for all teleport systems?


There are only a few ways to travel long distances in space.

1 move at some velocity and take your time for instance; Sirius is only 8 ly away. traveling there with contemporary Terrestrial "rocket" tech could take hundreds to thousands of years.

2. Space warping technology. Wormholes is one of thse technologies. Or, another system that can move "points" closer together.

3. Tie warping technolgies. These affect the time vector of One's "Inertial Frame", making the local clock either faster or slower.

st technologies used near Earth of sort of a combination of 2 & 3. There is a "device" losly called a "Frame Dragger" (Terrestrial science knows about these). They allow for the offset in time dilation, and, provides mode of transport a "field" as opposed to an "exaust". This will also allow for FTL.



Also, I think he mentioned that part of the energy was gained by being the focal point in this area of the galaxy, so even though alone the Sun may not have the mass or chemical energy - at the Sun's focal point there may be gravitational or magnetic powers of immense strength that T. humans are not aware of.

As for why not have the teleport technology on some ship, well, they have said before this portal on the Sun was used to transport enormous amounts of raw materials - which might be harder to do with a ship. And once it was set up for teleporting raw materials - it was convenient to use it for other purposes.


Thee are many "points" like which you are tring to describe. However, these are the balance, or "unity" pints for various forces (gravitional, magnetic, etc), and are a natural phenomen.

The question I would have is "Why" What is the need of such raw material? If One was t attempt the building of a planet or slar system, then the practical approach would be to use the material available at the "site"



I had read somewhere that the moon and it's tides were crucial for the develoment of life in the sea - but if much life was transported here from other worlds then the moon's role in earth's life creation doesn't seem so important.


Again, the Moon made life here on Earth what it is today. However, without it, there would still be life, though perhaps vastly different.



Apparently the Krulians, the species with the large ships, the ones that also apparently diverted Nibiru from it's path, have had their home world system attacked and almost destroyed a few times - it is in the videos somewhere - and they decided it would be safer to roam the galaxy in a couple of these large ships - I forget
if there is just one or more. Apparenly they are at a much higher level in terms of development and tech than the alien giving these interviews.

On Nibiru, I would like to see more evidence as well, but I would also like to have some options ready if it is true.


I don't know who the Krulians are, but, to build a few very large starships. Perhaps I'm just overly fond of planets




You have mentioned the names of many species - can you reveal which one(s) have the potential, or greatest potential (I'm sure all of them have the potential) to be unfriendly to us?


By my count that is smething like 17 species, counting Pleiaadians as "one".

The Sirian / Orion Alliance. is the greatest problem. About 8000 years ago the Sirians, a Human species, colonized Earth. T. Humans drove them off (never underestimate Terrestrial Human!). It is my "impression" they want it back. it also appears they havecntaminated the Terrestrial gene ol. Whichgives them sme "right" to earth, at least in their minds.


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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

The question I would have is "Why" What is the need of such raw material? If One was t attempt the building of a planet or slar system, then the practical approach would be to use the material available at the "site"


I would have to go back and check, but I think the raw materials were used to build the moon, but you are right you think it would be easier to use materials already available in the solar system.



By my count that is smething like 17 species, counting Pleiaadians as "one".

The Sirian / Orion Alliance. is the greatest problem. About 8000 years ago the Sirians, a Human species, colonized Earth. T. Humans drove them off (never underestimate Terrestrial Human!). It is my "impression" they want it back. it also appears they havecntaminated the Terrestrial gene ol. Whichgives them sme "right" to earth, at least in their minds.


How and when did the humans drive them off?

So what are these reptilians many go on about? Any truth to them existing? Aren't they supposed to be the evil force behind the elites now?




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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 09:38 AM
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 09:42 AM
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I would take a look to see just how far away the Andromeda galaxy is, light takes billions of years to reach us, so that 'guy' must be billions of years old!



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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Also Anthra, if you have the time, would you mind looking at these radar returns I posted in another thread?

They seem to capture something large moving at high speed, much faster than any weather phenomenon, and they don't seem to have the angles that sunset strikes have - the explanation that others have proposed.

Could they be...........your friends?

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