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7-year-old's suicide shocks Detroit community

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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 03:43 PM
Certianly this is a sad story. The "who is to blame?" question is natural in any suicide. This child didn't have the ability or security to voice his complaints. I work with kids that have communication problems. Their problems are not just theirs. I see many kids that have similar problems with the additional stumbling block. Kids are mean and cruel. Do you not know that? They must be taught to be nice. Parents are not to good at that anymore. They are critical, judgemental, quick tongued, not so skilled at explaining themselves. Not a suprise the kids aren't either. Many kids reach 6th grade w/o the skills to explain a story or anticipate a movie plot. Certianly it would be worse for a 7 year old. Bullying is hard to stop. Is it the social butterfly that laughs at anything out of the ordinary? Is it the conceited kid that thinks other kids are all stupid? It's the kids that don't know they are not the center of the world. Kid's that don't know they are loved. Kids that don't know what to do because they haven't been trained. That's the parents job. Kids that can't think by first grade are in big trouble. Gov't can't fix that. Ultimatley, it was the boy that decided to do it and he did.

posted on May, 26 2012 @ 04:21 PM
The family has a lion's share of responsibility for this boy's suicide. He had nowhere to be safe. He was bullied at school, lost his father in a divorce and then was bullied and ridiculed by the 8 females in his own house. I don't blame him for committing suicide. I would too. I can't imagine the pain he went through having no safe place to be accepted as a human being by people who love him.

This could be a modern day cinderella fairy tale.....starring a boy from Detroit with 7 wicked sisters.

From the OP:

The mother told police that her son "had been depressed due to her recent separation from his father; the fact that he had been bullied continuously by the children at school, in addition to the constant teasing that he had endured because he was the only boy in the home of eight females,"

Constant teasing = Bullying
Grow a Heart, Girls

P.S. I say this because I was the most bullied kid in my school from first to eighth grade. Although it was difficult, and my parents were divorced, I had one parent, two grandparents and a best friend who loved me and accepted me. I had a place where I was important, honored and treated just fine. That is what makes or breaks a soul. This boy was given nothing but bullies - day and night. Shame on those girls. They could have made life different for that child.
edit on 26/5/12 by RainbeauBleu because: added more rant.

posted on May, 26 2012 @ 04:33 PM

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
I was gonna post this story, but I just cried for a little while..Grown man in tears...

You would cry even more if you came to Detroit and saw what these kids have to deal with day to day.

Detroit has been in constant chaos since the riots and events like this happen almost everyday, but very few make the news.

edit on 26-5-2012 by Realtruth because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 26 2012 @ 04:46 PM
reply to post by g146541

Originally posted by g146541
How many child "suicides" that involve bullying were also on meds?
I really dunno, but I'm sure someone will dig, someday.

Diane Booth was put on the FBI's most wanted list because she refused to have her child forced to take Ritalin:

“The ordeal of Vincent Booth and his mother, Diane, began as it begins in every case, in every school district in the US–with teachers diagnosing ADHD, presently the number one “disease” in the country.

“Child Protective Services, pronounced her ‘negligent;’ by order of the juvenile court made Vincent a ward of the State of California (case # JD 1110); institutionalized, diagnosed, and drugged him. Vincent was six years old, and, up to that point, healthy and normal.

“Diane complained, but to no avail. Next, she took matters into her own hands. In desperation, and at her son’s request, she fled to Canada with him on July 5, 2000, and applied for refugee status. Two months later the FBI apprehended them in British Columbia and tore Vincent from her side while he screamed for help that his mother wasn’t allowed to give him." Source


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edit on 26-5-2012 by Murgatroid because: Added link

posted on May, 26 2012 @ 05:07 PM
Maybe it's time for the government to intervene and create a school police force, since neither the schools nor the parents are able to put an end to this culture.

posted on May, 26 2012 @ 05:27 PM
For everyone who was bullied at school, you'll know it's the worst feeling you have as a kid it just makes you sick thinking about what the bullies have and will do.
You hate going to school everyday just thinking about what will happen and a major thing in bullying is being humiliated in front of your peers.

It's devastating this kid thought his only way out was suicide, at 7!! because once you get out into the real world life gets so much better when people treat you with respect.

posted on May, 26 2012 @ 05:39 PM
I personally believe that "ending" bullying will not stop the issue entirely. It is bullying combined with school, familial, or other pressures combined with bullying. Now take bullying of all levels, cyber, in-person, and all in between. To "crack down on bullying" is to tell people to stop insulting each other, which frankly occurs everywhere.

Help the kids, I say. The reason bullying occurs is (from the big picture down) environment. A hostile environment like Detroit [which I must say is hostile even to me, on one occasion] is quite detrimental. So in a sense, improving the cities and suburbs to become friendlier and more respectable will help the victims cope, and the bullies to commit the deeds less often.

edit on 26-5-2012 by Mach5 because: Grammatical edit

posted on May, 26 2012 @ 05:47 PM

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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 07:36 PM

Originally posted by usmc0311
Peering through the keyhole of a locked door in her family's home near Detroit's New Center, a 14-year-old girl saw the unthinkable

People still use those old fashioned locks?
edit on 26-5-2012 by Xaphan because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 26 2012 @ 07:41 PM
The problem is bullying is never going to stop. It's just human nature.

The problem doesn't lie with these kids who bully each other, it lies with the media glorifying these poor kids' deaths. It's pretty despicable, actually. I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but think about it. Instead of teaching kids to stand up for themselves, they're taught to hunker down. Then these kids see the news turning suicide victims into martyrs and giving them fame and glory.

Kids should be taught to stand up for themselves, just like that Casey Heines kid. And the MSM shouldn't be making a profit off teaching kids that when you kill yourself, everybody has sympathy towards you and you get your 3 weeks of fame.

posted on May, 26 2012 @ 07:41 PM
This bullying crap again,.....when will children just let children be themselves. Are we all indoctrinated from a young age to alienate people that are different from the "standard" of what a child should be???
I have an eight year-old son, and at his grade school there is a strict policy in place for bullying. First offense is suspension, second offense is suspension again, and when they return back to school they are sent down to spend two weeks in the kindergarten, and third expelled from the school district, not just the school, but the entire district.

posted on May, 26 2012 @ 08:06 PM

Originally posted by StopFearMongering
The problem is bullying is never going to stop. It's just human nature.

Rape is also part of human nature. That doesn't mean we should be saying "Well, it's never going to stop because it's just who we are."

We should be trying to find a way to stop it.

posted on May, 26 2012 @ 09:42 PM
reply to post by Xaphan

Why? If we can't stop it? Punishing rapists is fine. But we shouldn't be trying to stop it, it's a waste of time. We could be curing cancer or something. At least something more productive than trying to fix a problem that can't be fixed. I mean, the only way I can think of to stop rape is to lobotomize someone, and I obviously don't think we should do that.

posted on May, 26 2012 @ 09:43 PM

Originally posted by Murgatroid

"There is definitely a dumbing down going on, but it isn't being done by the schools... "

Ironicly, this quote exposes the fact that MANY Americans have been so dumbed down that they THEMSELVES are completely blinded to what is REALLY going on in public schools.

Probably because it's in a large city. The smaller area schools don't have the problems that the inner city has because the home life is better. It all starts at home.
You have a school, you send kids to it who live in a home with meth labs, prostitution, no adult're going to have problems at school too because they bring their baggage with them. It's not the kid's fault, it's the fault of the piss-poor parents that don't put the wellbeing of their children first. Then the teachers suffer, the other kids suffer, the good parents suffer, everybody suffers because of the pieces of crap that churn out babies but don't take care of them.

posted on May, 26 2012 @ 10:16 PM
reply to post by StopFearMongering

There are injections that will completely destroy a persons libido. This should be legally mandatory for rapists who have more than one offense.

posted on May, 27 2012 @ 01:39 AM
reply to post by Xaphan

OK, fair enough. But that doesn't outright prevent rapes, does it?

I still am sticking with what I said.

posted on May, 27 2012 @ 06:20 AM

Originally posted by kaylaluv
I don't know that 7-year-olds fully understand death, and its permanence. Maybe he thought that he would die for a little while, and when he came back, all the problems would go away. Who knows what a 7-yr-old's knowledge of death really is.

I understood the concept of death once I was about four or five. I'll never forget how I came to that understanding either. I was just about to jam a paperclip into a wall socket and my mother happened to walk into the room at that very moment and whisked me up off the ground, sat me down in a chair and explained that if I did that I'd be gone from this planet forever. It scared the hell out of me, but I never did anything like that again lol.

Anyways, back on topic. I'll be perfectly honest here, when I read the headline it surprised me a little bit, but not all that much. Kids seem to be contemplating suicide younger and younger as the decades go by. I first seriously considered suicide when I was only 11, and that was in 1998. It wasn't just a passing thought either, I was seriously considering it for about a month. Kids seem to be under much more pressure now than they used to be, so I'm not really surprised.

posted on May, 27 2012 @ 09:17 AM

Originally posted by Xaphan
reply to post by StopFearMongering

There are injections that will completely destroy a persons libid.o. This should be legally mandatory for rapists who have more than one offense.

Rape isnt really a sexual thing its about.power and dominance.
Studies have shown that rapeist would just use other objects to sexualy assault people if we castrate or use drugs to kill their sex drive.
Rape should be punishable by death

posted on May, 27 2012 @ 07:17 PM
reply to post by Down4Whateva

Punishable by death is a little harsh. Especially since a lot of the time rape is a grey area and people are wrongfully convicted. But that's irrelevant.

We shouldn't be trying to "cure" rape, because it's impossible. Is what I've been saying.

posted on May, 27 2012 @ 09:50 PM

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

What exactly is a humanist school? And is that sort of thing taught to 1st graders in your 'humanist schools'? That seems highly inappropriate and not age level AT ALL! I'd be furious if I found out someone was teaching that to my 1st grader!

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