Originally posted by Sublimecraft
Thank-you so much for this post - amazing and thought provoking stuff.
I am not in the same intellectual league as the OP and his respondents, including Mr OccamAssassin, Hell, I had to read parts of your post 3+ times before some of it sunk in
There appears to be a maths and esoteric quality to this "reoccurrance and commonality" Fibonacci thing so:
Can one of you "Sheldon Coopers" out there apply this to the Zodiac?
Once again thank-you.
Originally posted by Sublimecraft
reply to post by PurpleChiten
Well off the mark about my participation in such things BUT that was very very well done - from now on you shall be known as "The Witty purple bird" to me
I only mentioned the zodiac because of the reference to the pentagram, no harm in trying
Originally posted by NotAnAspie
OP... I am really curious about some of this stuff but cannot bring myself to understand it in the least. I was never good at math but can do practical math, even if it's a little complicated, in my head... if I have a direction to apply it to. Now,I'm not saying this is not practical math... I am having trouble finding a starting point of where it will open up to me. So I just want to ask a simple question and just wanted to explain my reasons for asking it so you wouldn't take it as petty or argumentative or that I'm out to disprove something or you know... whatever.
I'm just very curious and want to bite into this. Now I know that by my one question in this thread, it is certainly not going to allow me to understand the fulcrum of how these things work in general but, you know... I'm just wanting a piece of this. For now.
If I can grasp any of it, who knows... it may lead to something else.
Under the picture of the a+b equation, your next line is "do some math and you get ---------"
after you explain phi, which I can't say I fully understand what exact relation is attributed when one says "this number is to this number"... but maybe after this I can figure it out.
So exactly what math did you do when you got that irrational number?
Are you just saying that if you are doing some random math and you get a weird number like ______ or are you saying Do the math and you will get this.
because as soon as I read that I was like "what math?"... how did you get that number? or are you just referring an idea.
Maybe this is revealed further in the post and I'm sorry if this makes me sound of less than average intelligence (which it doesn't really make me feel that way because I know I am better than many people at math and I'm HORRIBLE at math... some people, average people... can barely seem to multiply)
I was never good at these letter equations because numbers seem to make much more sense when it comes to math... and again, I didn't pay very much attention in school to how these relations or formulas are supposed to work unless i can see it's significance in a practical application. For example, I have used symbols or letters to identify something in a math equation trying to calculate something before I noticed that i was using representations. in applications it feels normal to do so, but when I just look at someone else's work I'm like...what?!!
Can you just explain where this number came from?...this irrational number? or is it just a random example.
I didn't read past that because I was certain at that point that I would not understand the following.
It just kind of broke down after that.edit on 25-5-2012 by NotAnAspie because: (no reason given)edit on 25-5-2012 by NotAnAspie because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
Originally posted by NotAnAspie
OP... I am really curious about some of this stuff but cannot bring myself to understand it in the least. I was never good at math but can do practical math, even if it's a little complicated, in my head... if I have a direction to apply it to. Now,I'm not saying this is not practical math... I am having trouble finding a starting point of where it will open up to me. So I just want to ask a simple question and just wanted to explain my reasons for asking it so you wouldn't take it as petty or argumentative or that I'm out to disprove something or you know... whatever.
I'm just very curious and want to bite into this. Now I know that by my one question in this thread, it is certainly not going to allow me to understand the fulcrum of how these things work in general but, you know... I'm just wanting a piece of this. For now.
If I can grasp any of it, who knows... it may lead to something else.
Under the picture of the a+b equation, your next line is "do some math and you get ---------"
after you explain phi, which I can't say I fully understand what exact relation is attributed when one says "this number is to this number"... but maybe after this I can figure it out.
So exactly what math did you do when you got that irrational number?
Are you just saying that if you are doing some random math and you get a weird number like ______ or are you saying Do the math and you will get this.
because as soon as I read that I was like "what math?"... how did you get that number? or are you just referring an idea.
Maybe this is revealed further in the post and I'm sorry if this makes me sound of less than average intelligence (which it doesn't really make me feel that way because I know I am better than many people at math and I'm HORRIBLE at math... some people, average people... can barely seem to multiply)
I was never good at these letter equations because numbers seem to make much more sense when it comes to math... and again, I didn't pay very much attention in school to how these relations or formulas are supposed to work unless i can see it's significance in a practical application. For example, I have used symbols or letters to identify something in a math equation trying to calculate something before I noticed that i was using representations. in applications it feels normal to do so, but when I just look at someone else's work I'm like...what?!!
Can you just explain where this number came from?...this irrational number? or is it just a random example.
I didn't read past that because I was certain at that point that I would not understand the following.
It just kind of broke down after that.edit on 25-5-2012 by NotAnAspie because: (no reason given)edit on 25-5-2012 by NotAnAspie because: (no reason given)
I'm going to interject...ummm...because I want to
If you set up the ratio, you get a+b/a = a/b , then you cross multiply to get a^2 = b(a+b),use the distributive property to get a^2 = ab + b^2. Then get it all to one side of the equal sign for a^2 -ab - b^2 which isn't factorable, so you use the quadratic formula and solve for a getting (after some arithmetic) 1+/- sqrt 5 all over 2. which, when divided out, gives you approximately 1.618 and -0.618
edit on 25-5-2012 by PurpleChiten because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NotAnAspie
I was going to look for a model of Venus and earth orbits in relation to the sun because it is very interesting to watch them dance around each other. Although it's not the mathematical explanation, it does appear that they are playing off of each other in various ways... as you say "dancing" Facing each other at certain rhythmic times.
I didn't find one (didn't look very hard because...) I found this article instead which points out a lot of things the OP has said. It's kind of long, talks of ice ages and asteroids but before everyone calls it doomish... it makes it clear that there are always variables, So I'm not wanting to focus on the dreary side because it's likely nothing can be done about largely catastrophic events anyway on such a cosmic level if it is INDEED a bad omen... although it IS interesting they have chosen to start putting stuff in jet fuel as though they are concerned, yet no one suggests ceasing to use so much oil. ANYWAY... I want to post it for the OP to see how if he would like to take a look at the many numbers in this article as well... since he seems to find numbers very interesting... and if he has time, tell us what he finds. also, I assume some of it must be correct yet some of it may be very exaggerated so maybe some want to correct it. it's a shame that the Mayan information he speaks of is lost.
syzygyastro.hubpages.com...
Originally posted by NotAnAspie
Ok, apparently you did not read my previous post where I said never mind, I got it... and without this highly embellished explanation.
I'm now going to make an entirely different post to address the OP because I don't want it in the same posting quoting PurpleChiton... as he is VERY busy on this site as I'm sure everyone can see.edit on 25-5-2012 by NotAnAspie because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by OccamAssassin
Numerology + Mathematics = Kooky theory with no basis nor relevance.
You managed to slaughter Astronomy, Physics, Maths & Music theory all in one meaningless thread.
That must be some kind of record!
Bravo!
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
Originally posted by NotAnAspie
Ok, apparently you did not read my previous post where I said never mind, I got it... and without this highly embellished explanation.
I'm now going to make an entirely different post to address the OP because I don't want it in the same posting quoting PurpleChiton... as he is VERY busy on this site as I'm sure everyone can see.edit on 25-5-2012 by NotAnAspie because: (no reason given)
Seriously, take a chill-pill dude
check the time stamp on the post, I posted the explanation MILLISECONDS after you posted "oh, I've got it".
I was trying to HELP you and you are being OBNOXIOUS. Cut it out already.edit on 25-5-2012 by PurpleChiten because: (no reason given)