Originally posted by 0mage
Originally posted by stormson
reply to post by 0mage
at this point i do not know that animals are self-aware or sentient. i know they have emotions.
once im shown they have self-awareness and sentience, then i will believe they have a soul.
however, i will not say that all animals are soulless, as the possiblity remains that a soul gave up sentience to experience animal life. i dont think it probable, but it is possible. why would anyone give up sentience on purpose?
stormson. it is very clear to see that they are.. else they would not run in fear of death for "Self preservation" and survival. Else your dog would not be able to comprehend the word "Sit" as a command.
however highly you want to view human intelligence and communication it still is no more than a series of recognizable syllabic grunts lol. so lets not put ourselves on too high a pedestal above the animals.. mammals at least.
on this we will never agree. self-preservation and self-awareness are not the same thing in my mind. im not trying to elevate humans, as i suspect that elephants, dolphins and some primates are self-aware, yet it hasnt been proven yet. once it is, im perfectly fine with accepting them as equals.
it also has nothing to do with intellegience. many mentally disabled people have low iqs, yet are sentient.
again, for me, it all comes down to sentience.
"i think therefore i am" taken to an extreme, i suppose.