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You Make Me Want To Vomit You Advanced Western Consumer

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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 03:29 PM
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reply to post by Germanicus
 
you make good points, but the hate you have is going to eat you alive from the inside out. kill the hate before it kills you. good luck to you.




posted on May, 25 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by NullVoid
Its not about technology or progress, its about
Valuing life with materials.

I see everyone as mindless working bio robot, slave to money and life pressure. People working so damn hard just to make ends meet. - This must stop, why is it should be this way ?

True story...
A:I need to borrow money to pay my debt
B:Ok, but what debt ?
A;A car and some personal loan I made.
B:You already have a motorcycle, fits for your own need for now, why do you buy a car ? You still pretty much single.
A: It normal for .... I .... I.... (fell into silent tears)

He was beaten by life based on materialistic value and greed.
Capitalism + Greed = Life pressure
Socialism + Sharing = Utopia
i'm really asking this so don't be offended. in the past or right now, what country has had socialism that was successful for everybody? you know, that truly worked and was not corrupt? (yes i'm aware the US gov is corrupt anyway)



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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Sure materialism and consumerism can be problems, but tell me which you'd choose.

a) Raise a calf into a cow over a few years, slaughter it, cook, and have a steak.
b)Drive a mile or two, swipe a card, and have a steak.

You can't really blame the people for modern life as much as you can blame a person for being addicted to meth.
Human nature is predictable, and in a day and age where the 7 deadly sins are an afterthought, death/collapse happens.

Your real issue with society is an epidemic of pride which manifests as "entitlement" and leads to the other deadly sins.
Envy
Anger
Sloth
Greed
Gluttony
Lust



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 03:58 PM
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I've never even thought about this quite frankly - but maybe it's because I still use a Beeper, that I'm still single(?)...

Wow, way to piss in my Cheerios buddy!



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 04:01 PM
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Can I say China ?

Honestly, all country leaders are corrupted to a certain degree. The previous communist block are actually very corrupted in very visible ways. The capitalist is well hidden under the capitalism flag - anyone have the right to be rich.

On capitalist/different economy structure, the corruption is well hidden due to the nature of capitalism - anybody can get rich - so is the leader. As capitalist leader, you can siphon all you can from the government as long you are the leader, either by bribe, crony or military.

On socialist based economy, you cannot siphon but you can keep, so you do what most socialist leader done - stay in power by any means, usually by force, military or crony.

Greed is major factor in all economy type and its really a major problem with leaders. If you saw 1000 bar of gold on the table, as a leader, taking 5 is ok right ? No doubt its very tempting to do such.

The best is marriage of both - Democratic Communist - Where leaders elected, given power but receive the same benefit. Even this is susceptible to corruption but to a lesser degree.

No matter what the economic type used, its always fell on the leader himself to contain the greed or to serve.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
Capitalism has made it this way.


Ah, finally got to the point of the post.

Another angry unemployed, undereducated victim of public education and his own lack of ambition.




edit on 25-5-2012 by AwakeinNM because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by Germanicus
Capitalism has made it this way.


Ah, finally got to the point of the post.

Another angry unemployed, undereducated victim of public education and his own lack of ambition.




edit on 25-5-2012 by AwakeinNM because: (no reason given)


Hey hey. You were the guy I was writing about


Such a nice person. So easy not to hate


I get the girl buddy. Dont hate me because Im beautiful. And spartan like.

I bet your life is just great hey
you run fast dont you?



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by NullVoid
reply to post by solongandgoodnight
 


Can I say China ?

Honestly, all country leaders are corrupted to a certain degree. The previous communist block are actually very corrupted in very visible ways. The capitalist is well hidden under the capitalism flag - anyone have the right to be rich.

On capitalist/different economy structure, the corruption is well hidden due to the nature of capitalism - anybody can get rich - so is the leader. As capitalist leader, you can siphon all you can from the government as long you are the leader, either by bribe, crony or military.

On socialist based economy, you cannot siphon but you can keep, so you do what most socialist leader done - stay in power by any means, usually by force, military or crony.

Greed is major factor in all economy type and its really a major problem with leaders. If you saw 1000 bar of gold on the table, as a leader, taking 5 is ok right ? No doubt its very tempting to do such.

The best is marriage of both - Democratic Communist - Where leaders elected, given power but receive the same benefit. Even this is susceptible to corruption but to a lesser degree.

No matter what the economic type used, its always fell on the leader himself to contain the greed or to serve.


i don't honestly know much about china and how their communist government works. the founders would obviously disagree with you. i think the only way to keep any government in line is for the people to stand up and kick some @$$. sucks but it seems to be the only thing that changes anything. and to stay on topic, i really don't think capitalism is to blame for the way people think now. i'm sure there are MANY people who are socialists who do the same crap that is in the post.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 05:14 PM
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it seems that some people indeed are just angry over their situation all the while not realizing they have not accepted self responsibility.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by solongandgoodnight
i don't honestly know much about china and how their communist government works. the founders would obviously disagree with you. i think the only way to keep any government in line is for the people to stand up and kick some @$$. sucks but it seems to be the only thing that changes anything. and to stay on topic, i really don't think capitalism is to blame for the way people think now. i'm sure there are MANY people who are socialists who do the same crap that is in the post.


I believe capitalism is the one to blame. Democracy works, no doubt, but when combine with capitalism, its a disaster to human race.

Advantage
Capitalism - technological innovation and motivation
Socialism - equality in distribution of wealth, no more suffering/life pressure and injustice.

Disadvantage
Capitalism - Wealth distribution vary greatly, enslaving the chaotic slaves.
Socialism - Innovation is slow, theres no pressure to progress further.

Which do you prefer ?
Raising cows for somebody else who will give you a jug of milk (he gets all the steak and milk)
or
Raising cows for everyone and everybody get a glass of milk and half a chop of steak ?
edit on 25-5-2012 by NullVoid because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 06:58 PM
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Lol I love how you changed your avatar when I called you out on your perfectly consumerist, stylish Western faux hawk.

I smell a troll here. Oh yeah, I've been to Germany. They are a consumerist nation no different than here in North America. I must admit i have a deep respect for the people as a whole, and consider them a model of what the European economy should be. If Greece had half the sense Germany goes, they would never have gotten into the mess they are in. You however? Whiny suck who is probably no older than 22.

Fail.

edit on 25-5-2012 by nightbringr because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 07:51 PM
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It's threads like this that are actually more fun then the most flags and stars threads.

Sarcasim, Insult's, Corrections, Enlightment from another perspective.

You know, the GOOD stuff about ATS is what this thread is about.

Harmless, no foul, entertainment.

We share some idea's. Watch this thread grow over a month.

Attacks and Defense will be arbitrary.

Game On.

Fun Stuff Guys. Put your game hat on.

The guy who opened the thread claims he got a bad stake in life. He can't get a job, he has less then a sexual prowess, chicks don't dig him, he's not gay, he lives in America, and Oba moma is not giving him enough opportunity to get out of the basement.


Should I hire him or not?


Oh, I AM hiring right now. Salary, Commission, Weekly Pay Check. Etc.

He is IN or out?



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by Germanicus
Capitalism has made it this way.


Ah, finally got to the point of the post.

Another angry unemployed, undereducated victim of public education and his own lack of ambition.




edit on 25-5-2012 by AwakeinNM because: (no reason given)


Hey hey. You were the guy I was writing about


Such a nice person. So easy not to hate


I get the girl buddy. Dont hate me because Im beautiful. And spartan like.

I bet your life is just great hey
you run fast dont you?


A narcissist to boot. What's not to like about you? Who wouldn't want to be with you? Someone who needs to be constantly degraded and looked down on, that's who.

No thanks, douchebag.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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This guy is a neo nazi from Australia. check his posts tell the mods,we have a constant troller here whos only function is to jump America.There is no other function of his postings or this particular example you cannot reason with him.Just read his stuff to see these facts,He loves the VC for Tet where he says we were beaten and the rest just smells the same.
I'm afraid I do not know how to report a troller does anyone here know?



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 12:22 AM
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Cool..... An Aussie that's unemployed with a small penis?

Should we hire him?


I'll call the Chippendale dancers.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 04:42 AM
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Too right Germanicus.

Anger is an energy.

Hate is a tool.

Holding back is a mistake.


QV.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 05:27 AM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
You cliche of an individual. You poor tracing. You cant interest a girl without an iphone in your pocket. Cant gain a look without the right clothes and hair. You need the right car. You pathetic deluded little mini-capitalist. Out for all you can get.

Hey! Bon Scott was out for all he could get, too!

"See me ride out of the sunset on your color tv screen.
Out for all that I can get, if you know what I mean."

So take that bad attitude and put it awayyyyyyy.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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I would really like to respond to this post...
T&C rules prevent me from posting what I really
want to say!



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
i have very high standards.



Says the guy with a cartoon bunny for an avatar.

Just an observation.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by mainidh

I find that of a lot of people. My relatives mostly. ... and it's as if when I speak to them, I'm speaking to a television. It glosses over their faces, obvious in it's obliviousness that it is not sinking in.



Gawd I hate that! I consider myself a little below what would be considered average intelligence, yet when I talk to the people around me I get looks as though I'm speaking in tongues.

Example: Wishing to discuss some points of a documentary I had watched, I've asked several people if they knew who Richard Dawkins is (reknowned biologist, atheist, evolutionist). EVERYTIME the response was, "Oh yeah, he used to host the Family Feud." I give up!




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