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reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 05:18 PM by TheLastStand

Originally posted by ajmusicmedia
Tonight, May 24th, thousands of people throughout Quebec have spontaneously gotten up and are marching throughout the province.

What started off, 102 days ago, as a student protest to which the government responded by passing Bill 78, a repressive law limiting the right to protest has now become a protest throughout the province by students, workers, job seekers. It doesn't matter anymore where you are from, people have had enough of this corrupt government.

A couple of days ago, a teacher suggested using a method that worked well in Chile and in Argentina. The idea was to get people outside between 8:00 and 8:15 and to start banging on cooking pans. People throughout the province started doing this, but didn't stop at 8:15. And tonight they just started marching through the streets.

One protest was organised in Montreal and one in Quebec city, but many more are going on throughout Montreal and across Quebec.

I never ever, in my wildest dreams, expected to see something like this here.

I am searching for English language coverage and will be posting these.

Hey op, please be more specific. "people" is the wrong word. "international socialist" or "communist" is more fitting considering the crowd wears red and we all know what "red square" means eh comrade?
en.wikipedia.org...

I want nothing to do with these people or their ideals of government. Period. I feel for the students but these "people" and what they are asking for is a very slippery slope that starts with their request of free education and ends with their total enslavement.

Whoever these idiots are (mostly occupy), they do not deserve to be canadian.

To be more specific these idiots are being frog marched by government shills to get a mask law passed. They want to classify everyone who does not like the crap government dishes out, that means if someone is wearing a mask where the cameras cannot facial id them and if there's too many people like that, all they have to do is send in 1 provocateur to cause damage of any sort and the police get to arrest them all, and even have a tool to put away a CHUNK of activists if they are dumb enough to wear a mask now.

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reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 05:47 PM by nightbringr

Originally posted by TheLastStand
Whoever these idiots are (mostly occupy), they do not deserve to be canadian.

Thank you.

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 05:49 PM by novemberecho

Dear Canadians, please teach us Americans how to protest. Egyptians can come too.

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 05:49 PM by nt0n0m

Hi All, here is my 2 cents.... I believe this talk of "why should I pay for other people to get free tuition..." is more of a trained viewpoint than an honest argument. Libya, before NATO recently destroyed it, provided free university, free farmland & equipment should anyone want it, a $50,000 start to any married couple wanting to buy a house, free health care (like we used to have in Canada before the privatization / profit motive was introduced. Oh ya, & it was Illegal for banks to charge interest on loans !!! (No wonder NATO had to liberate those happy, wealthy people...)

--->youtu.be... youtube vid, "What I learned about Libya & Gaddafi"

Some might say "Ya well Libya's oil $$$ made that possible" but I would counter that Canada has more natural resources & wealth ( & Oil ) than Libya. Due to legally binding *free trade agreements* made by a Canadian Prime Minister in the 80's it would now be illegal for Canada to decide to offer cheaper gasoline to it's own citizens. Illegal to subsidize the cost for the people who truthfully own the oil reserves in the first place...

Where I live now ( I left Canada 3 years ago ) The local government here subsidizes fuel costs (since this country has lots of oil ) & people here pay 40 cents per litre / $ 1.30 per Gallon.

& even in the U.S., the $TRILLIONS$ that go & have gone to military & weapons which will eventually will only be used on families, dads, moms & kids anyways (because let's face it, there are NO terrorists on this earth other than those in politics & business) All those trillions could go into your back pocket & then you wouldn't have to pay tuition fees, even if you did want to go to school.

Really, this planet is ours, copyright is a scam, property taxes are a scam, war is the biggest scam of all, poverty is by design, not by nature or accident. It's all a big scam really. Vive le Quebec Libre !!!! Peace

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 06:18 PM by WeRpeons

reply to post by ajmusicmedia

Good for them! We should be doing that in the states. I like the idea of pots and pans. Nothing like getting their attention by banging pots and pans and keeping them up at night! Take the young kids out, they'll enjoy themselves and at the same time help in the protest.

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 06:36 PM by Ben81

Who though that the North American revolution would start in Quebec

If only Americans would do the same to their government and HOLD THEIR GROUND

OWS was a good start but nothing like whats going on in Quebec

We Got to give to the students our thumbs up
they showed to the world how to peacefully fight the government
and hold their ground each day and each night

People of Quebec dont have much patience in corrupted governments

Charest caliss ton camp .. Le Quebec ne veut plus de toi

Montreal Martial Law Bill 78 Passes - Backlash was Immediate; Massive Civil Disobedience

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reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 06:40 PM by TommyG

For the love of god, if a country like Cuba can provide free world class education to its citizens why can't Canada?

Without an educated work force we will all end up just being cheap laborers. I also think that it should only be free if students stay in Canada for minimum years. If they leave, they pay. Charge foreign students etc.

I'm glad they are pissed off. They get nailed with a crapload of debt even before they find that their $60,000.00 education got them a marginally higher than minimum wage job at some corporation that has cut back on benefits and threatens to declare bankruptcy if they don't conform to further cuts.

It is a pathetic farce that continues to baffle me. The rich get educated and the poor smart people work the dead end jobs. Yet what fascinates me is how smug and self absorbed university educated people are even though they in the long run are poorer than the common sense folk who decided that higher education really gets you nowhere.

Godspeed... and if the protests come my way, I'll be smashing pots together in support.

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 06:44 PM by Iwinder

reply to post by TheLastStand

"Hey op, please be more specific. "people" is the wrong word. "international socialist" or "communist" is more fitting considering the crowd wears red and we all know what "red square" means eh comrade?
en.wikipedia.org...

I want nothing to do with these people or their ideals of government. Period. I feel for the students but these "people" and what they are asking for is a very slippery slope that starts with their request of free education and ends with their total enslavement.

Whoever these idiots are (mostly occupy), they do not deserve to be canadian."

I could not disagree more with you on the above quote.
You are saying that these protesters are not people, then what are you?
Regards, Iwinder

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 06:46 PM by Echtelion

As much as awesome the movement is becoming, it seems to be lacking a bit too much self-criticism.

People in Montreal are doing a big march every night, most of these have recently ended up with hundreds of arrests on a single night. Too big too often is no good, people must think of what they're doing, and where they're going.

The security industry may know a huge boost because of this, and the prison system... I don't wanna think about it.

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 06:49 PM by Iwinder

Originally posted by nt0n0m
Hi All, here is my 2 cents.... I believe this talk of "why should I pay for other people to get free tuition..." is more of a trained viewpoint than an honest argument. Libya, before NATO recently destroyed it, provided free university, free farmland & equipment should anyone want it, a $50,000 start to any married couple wanting to buy a house, free health care (like we used to have in Canada before the privatization / profit motive was introduced. Oh ya, & it was Illegal for banks to charge interest on loans !!! (No wonder NATO had to liberate those happy, wealthy people...)

--->youtu.be... youtube vid, "What I learned about Libya & Gaddafi"

Some might say "Ya well Libya's oil $$$ made that possible" but I would counter that Canada has more natural resources & wealth ( & Oil ) than Libya. Due to legally binding *free trade agreements* made by a Canadian Prime Minister in the 80's it would now be illegal for Canada to decide to offer cheaper gasoline to it's own citizens. Illegal to subsidize the cost for the people who truthfully own the oil reserves in the first place...

Where I live now ( I left Canada 3 years ago ) The local government here subsidizes fuel costs (since this country has lots of oil ) & people here pay 40 cents per litre / $ 1.30 per Gallon.

& even in the U.S., the $TRILLIONS$ that go & have gone to military & weapons which will eventually will only be used on families, dads, moms & kids anyways (because let's face it, there are NO terrorists on this earth other than those in politics & business) All those trillions could go into your back pocket & then you wouldn't have to pay tuition fees, even if you did want to go to school.

Really, this planet is ours, copyright is a scam, property taxes are a scam, war is the biggest scam of all, poverty is by design, not by nature or accident. It's all a big scam really. Vive le Quebec Libre !!!! Peace

I agree 100% this is by far the best reply post in this thread.
Regards, Iwinder

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 06:53 PM by TommyG

The reason it started in Quebec, and not in the US is they don't have American Idol in french... all the American's are glued to their entertainment devices to even have an idea of whats happening in the real world.

No offense to any smart non-media sensitized Americans... although I fear you are a minority

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 07:14 PM by Jedimind

As usual, the state, (the government) is the root cause of the problem...In this case the problem is the rising tuition costs which sparked the first protest.

Here's a vid from Peter Schiff to explain how the government's backing of student loans has led us to higher tuition rates than are justified and do not match the value of the education received.

YouTube Link

Universities in Canada and the US have been hiking up tuition rates since government has started backing the loans because they know that even if the students themselves don't pay, the government will. Even adjusted for inflation, tuition rates are much higher than they used to be and the quality of education has gone down (in my opinion).

The quality of education at the state university I attended was decent in my particular program but overall it was very watered down in order to cater to the average student who wasn't exactly 'college material' since everyone goes to college these days. What does the university care so long as they get their tuition money from government backed loans? Also, the professors often usher everyone through and scale classes grades up (I've seen this time and time again) just to make sure everyone passes even if they didn't properly learn the material.

If higher education was a truly free market without government intervention then the first protest against rising tuition wouldn't have happened in the first place. It's the state's fault for duping people into believing that everyone must go to college.
The mostly left leaning professors are in favor of the government backed loans which on the surface seem like a good thing but ultimately are based on failed economic policies that have been proven to be wrong time and time again.

edit on 25-5-2012 by Jedimind because: trying to fix youtube vid

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 07:18 PM by blaqueice

reply to post by Gauss

They literally gave them the middle finger

Students in Quebec were asked to send the cops the route of their march. Here's what they replied with.

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 07:21 PM by Dolby_X

here something in english

www.huffingtonpost.ca...

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 07:32 PM by InS0MnI

Id rather pay taxes for free education than paying it for Welfare. At least people will actually do something of their life.. even if they are Van Wilder''ers''.

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 07:52 PM by nt0n0m

Here are a few youtube vids of the demonstrations.
A search for "manif de casseroles" will probably yield better results than Montreal Protest, etc.
*manif* which is french short form for demonstration/protest (manifestation) & *casseroles* (pots & pans).

17 second clip from Friday May25 ->youtu.be...

Absolutely Stunning compilation someone made -> vimeo.com...

Manif de casseroles --> youtu.be...

Villeray Disobeys --> youtu.be...

I think the pots & pans are a great idea. It's more festive, participatory & feels more like a family friendly street party ! Nobody wants to be yelling negativity & being labelled an Anti- this or that. People can reclaim their cities by getting together & banging pots & pans every night at a set time. It could be kept fun & safe, people could bring snacks, smoothies & drums....

exciting stuff.

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edit on 25-5-2012 by nt0n0m because: loved the vimeo vid & moved it up

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 08:09 PM by InS0MnI

Media here in Quebec are trying to cover it by saying its now seen as a Festive Party... WTF !?

I think its another way to try to brainwash the random guy watching news and who's already got a bad view of all this.

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reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 08:48 PM by Jedimind

The pots and pans approach is certainly a little troubling though, to put it mildly. For instance, right now somewhere in Quebec a college student is trying to make some ramen noodles only to find that there's not a pan in sight to boil the water with! because their roommates took all the pans to the protest!!!

I understand that people want their voices heard in the fight against injustice and government tyranny but at what cost? Should we really be willing to jeopardize our pan supply? I think the answer should be obvious.

Also, the damage being done to the thousands of pans by playing them like drums is of course a huge tragedy. Some of those pans probably cost a nice bit of money and as we speak the quality is going down from the dents and such! Pans aren't drums, people! The sub-par cooking that will inevitably result is going to be absolutely devastating and it's very saddening to imagine the disappointment to be seen by those who expect meals to prepared in quality cookware.

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 10:24 PM by DerfVlQcL