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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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you're spot on man. but the only thing is.. we already have that extra eyeball.. it's called the third eye. and it is a real eye.

as you will see in your research.,.. the pineal gland is what is referred to as the third eye and it is a real physical eye in the center of your brain. It is also symbolised in religious drawings as a" Pine Cone". just as the large pine cone in the vatican. or the pine cones you would see egyptians and sumerian cultures carrying. also known as the 3rd eye chakra in chakra systems studies.

scientific research will describe to you the makeup of the pineal gland and you will see it has the parts of an eye. It works in conjunction with the pituitary and the endocannabinoid system to secrete '___' which in effect will allow you with conscious thought to lift the veil from reality and see your true spiritual self as you exist in a house of flesh. the flesh is just a shell of a corruptible reality. The spirit is eternal!
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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by AllIsOne
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Ok, I'll bite. What is the true path?


I always respect a man/woman who knows to ask direct questions and not beat around the bush. i answer them just as directly as they question me.

The true path is the path of the chakra system. ying yang.. balance. the balance point is the center. it is neither left nor right. by choosing the path that is neither left nor right and walking along the center you shed the dualistic nature that sends us all into conflict with eachother. you would be both left and right but neither at the same time!

Your aim would be to learn how to stimulate the chakra wheels at their centers in the body which would then have your spiritual and fleshly existences in synchronousity. from this point you can shed the flesh and experience astral travel etc. My testimony is that they are definitely real. Absolutely real aspects of existence that should not be ignored.

Eastern philosophies have in a more plain and direct explanation of everything that the bible has encoded to make difficult. Study "the chakra system"and kundalini meditation.. but do not ignore "the path to enlightenment" which requires you to basically do good deeds in the service of mankind and thus the universe. The universe is conscious and you get "points" so to speak for good deeds. the points will come in the form of knowledge. many times.. knowledge that others could not understand no matter how simply you explain it because they have deviated from the path. and in so doing refuse to entertain anything opposing their bubble of reality/ belief system.

There is no technological device on this planet superior to man himself. a creation of God. but we marvel about falsities. The teachings will teach you to shed the ego, and materialism to come into contact with your spiritual self and achieve spiritual realization.

I believe in the spiritual awakening going on now as we speak because it has happened to me and i know others around the world. and now that it has happened i can explain all this to others. but i can leave these earthly bounds by will and never return.. leaving an empty carcass in this reality if i so choose. yet i am here, holding open the door for anyone who wants get in. tho i dont think it will work very well. ppl need to open their eyes for themselves. and that is a very literal statement. out of say i spoke to 10,000 ppl. i estimate maybe only 3 or 5 will get my message. for those 3 or 5 ppl i wish the best for them in their journey.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 09:38 PM
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By far, the majority of scientists over the last 200 years have actually been men & women of faith. It was their belief that God was not capricious and illogical and that therefore his creation could be understood in terms of logic and reason that gave them assurance of their scientific method and findings.



Obviously many scientists from the last 200 years were men of faith since atheism is a recent phenomenom coming about realy only in the early 19th century and only accelerating in the latter half of the 19th century.
In the past 50 years or so very few if any prominant scientists have been "men of faith."



Every Sumerian cuneiform tablet that speaks of creation, significantly post-dates the assumed time that the book of Job (the earliest of the Hebrew writings) was written. This would tend to support the idea that the Hebrew version was the original text and that the Sumerians copied it (or that both accounts were copies of another, now lost account).


Most scholars date the book of Job to the 5th century BCE.The Mesopotamian Epic of Creation dates to the late second millennium BCE. Some conservative christians date Job earlier..but they would wouldnt they.

Here a less simplistic definition of shamanism for you....

Shamanism (play /ˈʃɑːmən/ SHAH-mən or /ˈʃeɪmən/ SHAY-mən) is a term used in a variety of anthropological, historical and popular contexts to refer to certain magico-religious practices that involve a practitioner reaching altered states of consciousness in order to encounter and interact with the spirit world.[2] A shaman is a person regarded as having access to, and influence in, the world of benevolent and malevolent spirits, who typically enters a trance state during a ritual, and practices divination and healing.[3] The exact definition and use of the term "shamanism" has been highly debated by scholars, with no clear consensus on the issue.
The term "shamanism" originates from the Tungusic languages of eastern Siberia, and was originally used by western scholars to describe the practices of certain types of magico-religious specialist within Central and Northern Asia. Upon learning more about religious traditions across the world, western scholars also used the term "shamanism" in reference to similar magico-religious practices found within the indigenous religions of other parts of Asia, Africa, Australasia and the Americas. Various historians have argued that shamanism also played a role in many of the pre-Christian religions of Europe, and that shamanistic elements may have survived in popular culture right through to the Early Modern period. Various archaeologists and historians of religion have also suggested that shamanism may have been a dominant religious practice for humanity during the Palaeolithic.



The Sumerian deities were significantly astrological and were not usually animals. Exception to this may be the belief in Leviathan, a giant fish creature/god probably related to the proto-Philistine half fish god Dagon.



one of the most prominant gods in sumerian mythology was Marduk.Marduk in sumerian means "solar calf" and was often represented as a winged bull calf.His nemisis was Anzu, son of the bird goddess Siris and was usualy represented as a lion-headed eagle.
Enki another prominant god was often symbolized as a creature resembling half goat half fish.
You are right in saying many Sumerian Gods were not animistic but a good few of them were.
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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 09:46 PM
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Where do you get your sumerian information from? im intrigued you seem to have accessed some interesting sumerian translations. would you tell me your source(s)?



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 09:55 PM
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also Chr0naut. what are your sources for sumerian knowledge if i may ask?



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 10:32 PM
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They haven't proven Dark Matter exists (its just a theory).



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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E=MC2 SOLVE FOR M
ENERGY EQUALS MASS TIMES VELOCITY SQUARED

SO

___E__ = M
C2

ENERGY DIVIDED BY VELOCITY SQUARED EQUALS MASS

Hows that?



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 07:57 AM
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I thought dark matter was just a theory. Personally, I don't believe in it. I think its harder to believe in dark matter than it is God.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 10:33 AM
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well said friend,was thinking how to put this in 'layman's' terms,but you did a fine job!

just to add a little bit(though i probably don't need to!)
reality doesn't really exist the way we think it does in quantum physics. reality is our brain perceiving what our consciousnesses tell us what is real! strangely enough,this is what the mystics have been saying for millennium.
you cannot reach the god head if you think in physical terms.
but alas, most people are content with their physical reality,and have trouble grasping the 'divine' or quantum reality.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by arpgme
People say that darkness is just the absence of light, but is this really true?

Darkness seems related to how its perceived by the observer. It may not be actual darkness as much as it may just be misunderstood energy.

Originally posted by arpgme
We already know that dark MATTER is an invisible SUBSTANCE that repels and distorts light. So darkness can not just be the absence of light. It is actually SOMETHING distorting and repelling light. It is an invisible substance.

Agree its an invisible substance, but again ONLY to the observers visual sensory perception ability. To another being knowing exactly what , what dark matter is it may by viewed like a slurry/plasma/liquid of some kind not understood by those within it, sorta like thinking DO FISH IN OCEANS PERCEIVE WATER AND ITS FEELING THE SAME WAY OTHER CREATURES OF EA*RTH DO LIKE HUMANS and they probably do not feel the same to the fish swimming in it and the humans outside of it. So what is called dark seems related to how internal universal inhabitants perceive the unknown but by another CREATOR CREATION it may look like LIGHT*


NAMASTE*******



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by reficul
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well said friend,was thinking how to put this in 'layman's' terms,but you did a fine job!

just to add a little bit(though i probably don't need to!)
reality doesn't really exist the way we think it does in quantum physics. reality is our brain perceiving what our consciousnesses tell us what is real! strangely enough,this is what the mystics have been saying for millennium.
you cannot reach the god head if you think in physical terms.
but alas, most people are content with their physical reality,and have trouble grasping the 'divine' or quantum reality.


Exactly. There is no reason that Time, Space, Matter and Energy needs to be the only reality. What would the characters of the Sims Game perceive their reality to be? They might reach the electrical signal coming from the circuits and never understand how their alphabet of ones and zeros actually operates in a higher dimension. Matter to them would not be possible. Only what they sense from their preprogrammed vision would be real to them. We only need to expand our awareness to see that the ocean is not merely the surface and waves. A 75 foot oak tree is inside each acorn. The true reality is information. Behind the information could be any number of possible realities in dimensions above. What's in the 6th dimension or the 10th? We can only predict what might be possible. If we were there, I am sure we could then look down and realize what our reality is by perspective.

Sicence wants to end the argument at matter and say that matter creates consciousness. Nothing suggests this from observation. It's quite the opposite. We are obviously bio-mechanical machines that are engineered at the nano degree of complexity and purpose. This is only a school allowing our access to higher possibilities. The Bible tells this story in total. We merely need faith to see that it is true.

The main principle of matter that allows particles to bind is called Cohesion. Cohesion occurs because of wave. A WORD is a Wave. A wave is the other nature of light. Light is particle, wave and consciousness. Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Cohesion - the act or state of cohering, uniting, or sticking together.

1 Colossians 1:

15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

Who is the wave of creation?

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.

9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God — 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

15 (John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’”) 16 Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

What was the purpose?

24 “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else. 26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27 God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us. 28 ‘For in him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.'



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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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How can you say that subatomic particles are not energy vibrating at different rates?

It's not as though we know everything there is to know about the universe...



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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i totally respect your outlook on scripture. this is how i study all of the different beliefs i study!

there is a message waiting to be found in these writings,and quantum physics has just begun to scratch the surface
of finding the true essence of `God`!
i see the miracles of `God`every day in my backyard. although i enjoy learning the `how`it works, i try to concentrate on the `why`! i strive every day to be buddah,mohammad,jesus,and the many more mystics,techers that have walked this earth. science is just a tool for humans to learn that we are all one-all part of the ÒNE`!!!



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by 0mage
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also Chr0naut. what are your sources for sumerian knowledge if i may ask?


Primarily, Oxford University's ETCSL, which would be the best academic documentary source (IMHO).

Also, there is interesting material at CDLI but much of this still "work in progress" and the final translations have not necessarily been "tied down".

There's a Sumerian Dictionary project in the US being set up by the University of Pennsylvania that has a good reputation, but I have not actually spent much time browsing it personally.

Oh, and Wikipedia and general reading (even Sitchin, whose conclusions I consider to range from: unreliable, to very wrong) too.

Also, the Sumerians were part of a flow of history and were preceded by the Akkadians and Canaanites and followed by the Babylonians (who took up many Sumerian beliefs but also fleshed them out somewhat, reforming the more primitive beliefs into a more cohesive framework). It is wise therefore, to view the Sumerians in their historical context, being aware that their whole society was, like all human societies, growing and changing over time.




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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 12:37 PM
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Where does God come from, then?

Everything has to have a beginning...even if only in its current form.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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Where does God come from, then?

Everything has to have a beginning...even if only in its current form.


Our perception of this comes from things that are created, which inhabit a vessel (body). Our reality is based on systems and kingdoms of existence. Your body is a kingdom of 50 trillion cells, all acting to allow your consciousness to think and move. You don't produce this, you just ride the vehicle. The question, "Who am I," is the same question of who God is. Consciousness is not something that is seen. It just is.

3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.

How do we see love? Not by light. Some things are preexistence and always have been. They are eternal. Love, for instance, occupies no body. Show me what it looks like and you are only showing me what it reflects from. The same with light. Light is not visible, it simply reflects and illuminates matter. Light is not matter, yet matter is a construct of the light. Light is both a particle and a wave depending on the observer collapsing the wave. A wave is information and a wave is WORD.

All things in nature require an opposite to be seen. God has no opposite. The entirety of nature only reveals Him as the glimmer off of one edge of this chapter in his Word. Word is information. Can information be seen apart from the body it occupies? Do you see the 75 foot oak tree inside the acorn? No, yet you know it's there as information, waiting to be expressed into form. The form is the vehicle. Your body is a seed that your are responsible to engage to forms of creation. Fruit are the expressions of your thought and movement. The fruit is produced by sowing and reaping in the garden. The garden is earth, a womb for our development. Just like the last womb of the mother, we are veiled from what comes next.

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.

6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.

9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God — 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

15 (John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’”) 16 Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.


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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by EnochWasRight

Our perception of this comes from things that are created, which inhabit a vessel (body). Our reality is based on systems and kingdoms of existence. Your body is a kingdom of 50 trillion cells, all acting to allow your consciousness to think and move. You don't produce this, you just ride the vehicle. The question, "Who am I," is the same question of who God is. Consciousness is not something that is seen. It just is.


I get the God Consciousness - - - only I prefer the Creator Consciousness (Energy thought).

So would there be layers upon layers upon layers - - with sub-creators in worlds without end?

Who is Jesus? Would/Could he be an evolved being from off world?



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by EnochWasRight

Our perception of this comes from things that are created, which inhabit a vessel (body). Our reality is based on systems and kingdoms of existence. Your body is a kingdom of 50 trillion cells, all acting to allow your consciousness to think and move. You don't produce this, you just ride the vehicle. The question, "Who am I," is the same question of who God is. Consciousness is not something that is seen. It just is.


I get the God Consciousness - - - only I prefer the Creator Consciousness (Energy thought).

So would there be layers upon layers upon layers - - with sub-creators in worlds without end?

Who is Jesus? Would/Could he be an evolved being from off world?



Our assumptions of the universe are seen if you read Deuteronomy 4 with eyes to see the symbols. Images are creations by man. God is not seen in an image. The universe is our inheritance. To know the beginning, you need to know the end. The Word of God is the hitchhiker's guide. We end this creation and start over. The next time, we have the reflection point of the Word. Deuteronomy is our guidebook to use Earth 2 in the future. Our inheritance is the universe. Now, read Ephesians 3:14. There are families in heaven.

Our assumptions are now solid. What we see here is a copy of what is out there. God is showing us the way to get there from here. First, we need to overcome Earth, Air, Water and Fire. Holy Spirit is the crown. Once we obtain the goal, we move on to the next act in the play.

Look up the 2 definitions of LOGOS. LOGOS is the master storyteller. Watch the movie Illusion with Kurt Douglas on Netflix.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by EnochWasRight

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by EnochWasRight

Our perception of this comes from things that are created, which inhabit a vessel (body). Our reality is based on systems and kingdoms of existence. Your body is a kingdom of 50 trillion cells, all acting to allow your consciousness to think and move. You don't produce this, you just ride the vehicle. The question, "Who am I," is the same question of who God is. Consciousness is not something that is seen. It just is.


I get the God Consciousness - - - only I prefer the Creator Consciousness (Energy thought).

So would there be layers upon layers upon layers - - with sub-creators in worlds without end?

Who is Jesus? Would/Could he be an evolved being from off world?



Our assumptions of the universe are seen if you read Deuteronomy 4 with eyes to see the symbols. Images are creations by man. God is not seen in an image. The universe is our inheritance. To know the beginning, you need to know the end. The Word of God is the hitchhiker's guide. We end this creation and start over. The next time, we have the reflection point of the Word. Deuteronomy is our guidebook to use Earth 2 in the future. Our inheritance is the universe. Now, read Ephesians 3:14. There are families in heaven.

Our assumptions are now solid. What we see here is a copy of what is out there. God is showing us the way to get there from here. First, we need to overcome Earth, Air, Water and Fire. Holy Spirit is the crown. Once we obtain the goal, we move on to the next act in the play.

Look up the 2 definitions of LOGOS. LOGOS is the master storyteller. Watch the movie Illusion with Kurt Douglas on Netflix.





Too much God for me.

I see it more in a science reality.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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Too much God for me.

I see it more in a science reality.


As you view science, realize one simple truth that will become abundantly clear soon. Leaving consciousness out of light is blasphemy against the Spirit of God. Science calls light a duality of particle and wave, but adamantly denies that spirit is there in the light. By denying this fundamental of the origination of matter, they deny a creator. We now know better. Quantum physics continues to imply the reverse. Light is a Trinity.

Father (Light / Infinity / Energy, which is information)

Son (Word / Wave / Information / Law)

Holy Spirit (Consciousness) God is the Great I AM

What three things are necessary for the letters I type to enter your screen? Energy is moved in Time and Space by wavelength. Information forms the mechanism for the process. Consciousness is on either side of the connection, but not the mechanism itself.

If you enjoy your science, as I do, don't forget that the source is always greater than that which flows from it. Nothing rises above its source.


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