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Originally posted by quedup
Short and sweet - the answer is NO!
If women ruled over Men - there's be no wars and killing - end of.
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Scriptures, and other myth’s, say that God determined that men should rule over women. This gives form, --- in a demographic sense, ---- to our common and society, and says that our demographic pyramid should have a hierarchical shape and or form. This initiates tension and has God demonizing woman, as well as any notion of female equality with man.
His motive must be for the good of women. Somehow!
After all, sanctity of the family is one of the main points of morality.
God was arguably right for his time. Think in the barbaric way. Below the belt. Thank God that time is almost past. Women in our modern world do not need man’s dubious ape like help. I hope you agree. Be honest now with yourself be you male or female.
Men have dominated women long enough I think. To give them equality would be justice.
What do you think?
What would real men do?
What would real women demand?
Do men and women have what it takes to be free?
Justice under law should be gender and age neutral, with limits, but with a good spirit of assuring equality. We do not administer that justice. We only give it lip service. Men are not walking their talk. Neither are women.
In Gods timocracy, a place of government in which love of honor is the ruling principle. All honors go to the Queen and her children. A king’s first responsibility is to insure the veneration of his queen. Honor demands it. He accepts this burden and pleasure wisely. The Queen, as the Beta archetype is the life of the kingdom. The archetypal king’s duty is to raise woman’s position. That means that all men have the same duty. That of not denying women equality and elevating her.
Men. Be good kings. You are making good just men look bad. Step up.
God wills it.
Women. Be good queens and demand what is yours.
Originally posted by Sublimecraft
And before you say "Margaret Thatcher / Julia Gillard etc etc and they didn't do any good" - thats because they were not allowed out of the corporate/political kitchen"
Originally posted by SublimecraftI mean women at every power level in every country - damn I for one would welcome the day.
Guarantee life would get a little better.
Go the Chicks
so the system made Margaret a war monger? It just wasn't you know ......her natural butt holishness?
How can you guarantee this.
What proof do we have that a gender offers something particularly unique that would benefit government?
Originally posted by SublimecraftWhere did I say or infer "warmonger"? - I was talking about running a country so get war and butt jokes off your mind my friend.
Originally posted by SublimecraftMY guarantee comes from the wisdom of my mother, the love of my wife, the awesomeness of my sister and the unconditional love of my daughter, amongst other women that I hold in high esteem.
Originally posted by SublimecraftThe only proof, and 2000+ years of it, that I have to offer regarding a particular gender "benefiting" government,
Originally posted by SublimecraftNB: You have a superiority complex - keep it in check on this site please. If you cannot respond with full dignity don't bother responding at all.
Originally posted by Wonders
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Christians are always trying to absolve God of moral culpability in the fall by whipping out their favorite "free will!", or “ it’s all man’s fault”.
An explanation for why Eve would even have the nature of "being vulnerable to being easily swayed by a serpent" and "desiring to eat a forbidden fruit" must lie in the nature God gave Eve in the first place. Hence God is culpable for deliberately making humans with a nature-inclined-to-fall, and "free will" means nothing as a response to this problem.
If all sin by nature then, the sin nature is dominant. If not, we would have at least some who would not sin.
Evil is our responsibility.
First, let us eliminate what some see as evil. Natural disasters. These are unthinking occurrences and are neither good nor evil. There is no intent to do evil even as victims are created.
Evil then is only human to human.
As evolving creatures, all we ever do, and ever can do, is compete or cooperate.
Cooperation we would see as good as there are no victims created. Competition would be seen as evil as it creates a victim. We all are either cooperating, doing good, or competing, doing evil at all times.
Without us doing some of both, we would likely go extinct.
This, to me, explains why there is evil in the world quite well.
This is how things are and should be.
I am not trying to change anything except the perception that evil is not useful to us while realizing we can reduce it's impact.
FYPOV, why else would God create it? So that man would not go extinct. Your perception is wrong if you see evil growing. It is shrinking.
I do not think we have no free will. We do have free will. I even have a test to prove it.
Eve was not deceived. You spout dogma and not fact and point to why the church will not give woman equality with men and says that man is to rule aver woman. Then again, most Christians do not admit to denigrating and discriminating against women without just cause.
"there actually ARE some people who DO NOT sin. "
That is not what your bible says. Then again, it lies quite often as you indicate if you do not believe we are all sinners.
You can never eliminate evil from your life. You can be aware of it though and reduce it's impact by more cooperation. You, as most of us, are just not aware that when you compete, you add to evil somewhere.
Lets look through the bible shall we?
The Lord God placed the man in the Garden of Eden to tend and watch over it. But the Lord God warned him, “You may freely eat the fruit of every tree in the garden— except the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. If you eat its fruit, you are sure to die.”
Then the Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper who is just right for him.”
Did God command Eve not to eat? She was not even made yet.
The man replied, “It was the woman you gave me who gave me the fruit, and I ate it.”
Then the Lord God asked the woman, “What have you done?”
“The serpent deceived me,” she replied. “That’s why I ate it.”
Then the Lord God said to the serpent,
“Because you have done this, you are cursed
more than all animals, domestic and wild.
You will crawl on your belly,
groveling in the dust as long as you live.
Did God tell Eve, "No, you were not decieved."?
To whom did God say, "Because you have done this,"?
And I will cause hostility between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and her offspring.
He will strike your head,
and you will strike his heel.”
Then he said to the woman,
“I will sharpen the pain of your pregnancy,
and in pain you will give birth.
And you will desire to control your husband,
but he will rule over you.”
When did God curse Eve with an insatiable desire to control Adam?
Was this rulership over Eve granted before eve was decieved? No.