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The Batman Conspiracy – Freemasonic Illuminati Dark Knight

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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 01:00 PM
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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 01:01 PM
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Okay, a few problems I have with this OP.

1) Equating Masons with the Illuminati, the two are not the same thing.

2) Use of the word occult - the umbrella of the occult tends to include almost any superstition, legend or religious practice that isn't Christian. As such the word has essentially been rendered meaningless by its gross overuse. Take for example the Satanic Panic of the 1980s where Christian groups went around labeling numerous toys, television shows, and musical artists as essentially agents of Satan and went so far as to label things like Star Wars, Yoga, and Rainbow Brite Cereal as being occultic in nature.

You spin a web of tenuous-at-best strings none of which seem to hold up under any scrutiny. If you dig deep enough you can invent "occultic" and "illuminati" influence for almost everything since those umbrella terms include almost everything.

If you got into the comic book version of Batman you could find even more strange "occult" influences. For instance did you know that Ras Al'Gul, the main villain from Batman Begins, actually has access to a pool of near-magical chemicals called the Lazarus Pit which can bring the dead back to life? DC Universe itself doesn't have any aversion to the inclusion of magic or seemingly magical powers, abilities, relics, etc. Neither does Marvel for that matter.

My point is that these are comic books for goodness sake, fiction, borrowing elements from the so-called "occult" is not very surprising is it? Are we going to call it some kind of conspiracy that the work of Tolkien contains elves and demons and wizards? Shall we connect up an absurd web of intrigue around the fact that HP Lovecraft came up with the idea of ancient alien hypothesis decades and decades before Daniken ever wrote Chariots of the Gods?




posted on May, 25 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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Thank you for actually posting some contrary evidence.

The only reason I point this out is that here on ATS we should all know the power of CULTURE and whoever controls the culture controls the people.

I think most here would agree that there is massive manipulation of the people through pop culture.

More often than not people will compare a situation in real life to one they saw in a movie or on TV.

I am merely pointing out the decidedly dark path this nation is being set on.

I mean really PG-13 movies now days contain swearing and violence that would have been rated R just a decade ago. What effects do you think this has on society?



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 01:11 PM
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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 01:12 PM
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Interesting theory. On the one hand, Batman is a "dark knight" fighting for good, doing his best not to kill and bringing justice to badguys when the police fails to capture them. On the other hand, he bases his whole persona on some sort of almost occult, dark character that draws strength from the deepest kernel of fear in the human brain, the same naked fear you'd feel if you came face to face with the Mothman, I wager.

It has to be considered, though, that Batman wasn't always Christian Bale's scary-voiced character of darkness. It just developed into that. Though the idea of him choosing bats for being scary was always there, it didn't turn into the almost horror-esque show it is now, until in the nineties.

I would not call Adam West's version of Batman anything even remotely occult, for example.


On the other hand, in the nineties, it all changed when they began to put a really, really dark spin on Batman with Batman the Animated Series. I used to watch it as a kid, and it was very, very scary to me (though a great show nonetheless). The movies that were made in the eighties and nineties were kind of dark, but nowhere close to this show's and Bale's darkness, in my opinion. If you look at Batman in the intro to the Animated Series, though, he's very, very similar to the Mothman, in my opinion, and definitely outright intimidating.


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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 01:18 PM
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I mean really PG-13 movies now days contain swearing and violence that would have been rated R just a decade ago.


The violence part you may be right, however as far as swearing I think most films have actually become a lot SOFTER as far as language is concerned. Most of the BIG movies these days contain very little swearing because they are trying to appeal to as big a demographic as possible. Take the recent Avengers film, there's very little bad language in that film, if it weren't for the violence the movie would easily qualify for a PG rating.

If we go back far enough, like into the late 70s, there is no such thing as a PG-13, the rating system used to skip right from PG to R until right around when Temple of Doom was released. Temple of Doom was going to be the first Indiana Jones film with an R rating until the PG-13 rating was created.

So in real terms I don't think PG-13 films are that much worse than they used to be as language is concerned, perhaps a case could be made for violence and sex being much more prevalent in those films but even there it's nothing compared to the old Grindhouse films, which were essentially sold on just nudity and excessive violence.

Personally I don't think there is a grand evil conspiracy to influence pop culture, I think the main "conspiracy" is just greedy folks trying to make money by making shows that appeal to an already stupid population. This is why reality shows are the norm, people know they can make money off of them, people know that crappy reality shows are cheap to produce and come with a built in audience.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 07:42 PM
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Yes sir, it was indeed a childish taunt, but only if you don't believe in this illuminati batman. If you do believe it, I would take it as a serious warning. Batman is no joke. He's dangerous. And to say I should post facts, I did. The fact is that Batman is a comic book character. Not a moth man or anything of that nature. Batman had glowing red eyes in the movie because people were on the fear drug. This was an homage to the original comic in which Batman appeared as a demon to some that were on the fear gas just like in the movie. Illuminati symbolism is very where. Just because it is seen in backgrounds of movies does not make a real physical connection to a fictional character and a possibly fictional occult group. Occult finding in Spawn? Obviously those would be there. He is a demon. They are there because Hell is a main place in the series. To link it to real life would be absurd. Let's say Todd McFarlane has a link to the devil itself and decides to make a comic book based on the facts he knows because he has seen them. No. That's preposterous too. Almost as much as saying batman is an illuminati demon.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 01:18 AM
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Interesting indeed.
The bat itself is rich in symbolism. In China bats are actually thought to bring good luck "fu", and the Taoist also share a positive opinion, representing longevity and immortality. There are also the negative associations linked to this animal as well. The nocturnal nature of this animal has made it symbolic of the night devouring the day, swallowing the light. The native Indian tribes in South America believe that a bat swallowing the sun will be the precursor to the end of the world, the Mayans also viewed the bat as a harbinger of death. The Christians haved viewed this animal as an incarnation of satan. Just a little more food for thought.

PLPL



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 01:32 AM
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Batman is real !



These are the sinus cavities in the human head, they are the air filled regions of the skull.



Here are the cavities on the face shown clearly.



compare with the Batman "Mask" drawn on this kids face.

Basically, Batman is a spirit that puts on a skin for desguise, and when he acts no one knows it's he.

The spirit climbs up and takes up residence in the air filled cavities of the skull, to control the mind of the host, which is being used for the Batman garment.

It's called possession, and the Church used to exorcise these demons in the old days.



Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. -- KJV John 10:10

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The proper "door" for the sheepfold, is the top of the head, otherwise refered to as the Sahasrara, it is there that the holy spirit enters into union with man.

But, the lesser spirits, of lowly nature, enter another way. They "climb up" through the nose, just like man's own soul enters through the nose when the breath of life enters him.



And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. -- KJV Genesis 2:7


So, the soul of man enters through the nostril, but other souls can also enter there and join up with him, and he can become possessed with a legion of souls, all battling to control his mind.

There are EIGHT sinus cavities in the human head:
www.enotes.com...



When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out. KJV Luke 11:24

And when he comes, he finds it swept and in order. KJV Luke 11:25

Then he goes, and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. KJV Luke 11:26

Source: bible.cc...

Here we see in Luke that the man can become posessed by EIGHT evil spirits at the same time, all taking up one of the ROOMS, i.e. the "Sinus Cavities" in the head.

Now these evil spirits can be the spirits of the dead, or even spirits of men living in the flesh somewhere on earth. They leave their own bodies, and fly over to some unsuspecting victim, take up residence there, and control his mind. That's Batman puting on his working garment, for today's activities. When he's done, he simply disrobes, leaving the poor soul to deal with whatever mess he finds himself in, and Batman returns to his own body, gets up and walks among men, and nobody knows it was he that did the acts that are blamed on the poor soul he used as host.

Batman has "WINGS".



This is the sphenoid bone at the back of the human skull, it has the shape of a birds wings, or bats wings, suggestive of a bird or bat that has been ossified into bone, as the spirit descended or fell into physical existence. That bone maintains the shape of the spirit entity that occupies that part of the brain. So when the spirit leaves the physical body it has that shape, i.e. the shape of a bird or bat. This is batman's wings. His ability to turn himself into a bat, then turn back into a man.

In the old days this was just symbolized by the bird horus sitting on the back of the Pharaoh's head:



Source: www.touregypt.net...


Of course, a lower spirit can occupy a man and do either good or evil deeds as that man. So, Batman can play the role of the good guy, or the evil one. In the comic books, the Joker plays the evil one, letting Batman be good. But, biblically speaking, all spirits that climb up that other way are evil. It's just that there are degrees of evil, and some are more evil than others, as Luke says and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in,...there are degrees of wickedness...as we have just seen.



posted on Apr, 11 2014 @ 08:03 PM
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Well, Agreed - With the Fact , that Batman - is a used by occultic writers , and they have given a take on the character and on his Stories and made them very dark indeed to fit the Pop culture - Now in Pop Culture nothing is new they have brought back the pagan religions and gods of old and given them new names - and new stories which they repeat over and over again. All superheroes are gods of Old, - thru studying and actually just looking at there names , power's, origin's stories - its clear to see .

I think when Batman was created , maybe the overtones of how dark the character would become where not there in the beginning , but I have my doubts as alot of the other super heroes are very dark in nature , I mean from there creation - Also From the first few comic's he cud not disappear like a vampire , - and a guy just wanting to fight crime . But than again , Its not - more to the fact, If he has anything to do with illuminati - Its if he was created to be Evil, from the get go - SURE I do agree Now the Movies and writers have made him very evil indeed - I mean u will only ever see that IF u want to - but than again -, I'm not sure from earlier creation if that was the intent of the creator.



posted on Mar, 20 2015 @ 12:36 PM
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i've been digging through an old comic stash i found in an even older van and i just got to read Batman shadow of the bat #61 **featuring FATE** from jan 98.
Theres a passenger plane in this tale literally called **N.W.O flight 17** which is met by nefarious # during the episode. This chapter also is juicy with mythology. The jet reminded me of *MH-17* straight away when i was reading it so i made an acc here to post. What are the odds??

P.S i have not read a batman comic ever before these past few days and after reading 3 random comics i picked out the pile 2 nights ago, which of this one was the last i read. i got straight up realising i forgot again to turn off the pool filter and the time was like 9 45 pm. soon as i walked out the back door there was a regular looking bat sitting toward me on the thin tube/string i use for my clothesline and it flew away, took about twice as long to leave the yard as a bird would.. (pretty quick). you might describe a bats flight as sporadic. i have never seen a bat living around here in my life. i can't draw anything from it other than "what the #"
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posted on Mar, 20 2015 @ 12:42 PM
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The Batman seen in films such as "The Dark Knight" is a mish-mash of different "Batman" iterations, with of course a healthy amount of creative license. Surely the film's creators (and by extension the comics as well) pulled from mythology and the occult to make our modern batman more mysterious and dark. At lot of it also comes about from "Batman: The Animated Series" which played in the mid 90's. That batman I think served as inspiration for the Batman in the recent films. A detective first, using stealth and guile, refusing to kill, etc.



posted on Jul, 28 2015 @ 02:50 AM
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originally posted by: apexmussel
i've been digging through an old comic stash i found in an even older van and i just got to read Batman shadow of the bat #61 **featuring FATE** from jan 98.
Theres a passenger plane in this tale literally called **N.W.O flight 17** which is met by nefarious # during the episode. This chapter also is juicy with mythology. The jet reminded me of *MH-17* straight away when i was reading it so i made an acc here to post. What are the odds??

P.S i have not read a batman comic ever before these past few days and after reading 3 random comics i picked out the pile 2 nights ago, which of this one was the last i read. i got straight up realising i forgot again to turn off the pool filter and the time was like 9 45 pm. soon as i walked out the back door there was a regular looking bat sitting toward me on the thin tube/string i use for my clothesline and it flew away, took about twice as long to leave the yard as a bird would.. (pretty quick). you might describe a bats flight as sporadic. i have never seen a bat living around here in my life. i can't draw anything from it other than "what the #"


Note:

I posted this thread before the Aurora shootings, so none of the correlations with the lil'wayne theater shooting were made at the time.

Interesting that you find another disaster to tie in.

-FBB



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