posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 10:09 AM
Originally posted by Erbal
reply to post by CIAGypsy
While I have not formed a conclusion on the topic at hand, Monarch Programing, I have found instant success in forming a conclusion on your debunking
method of this topic: it's of the same exact quality of garbage you claim this subject consists of, opinion and conjecture disguised as fact.
Should I be so flattered that you are making little 'ole me the topic of this thread?
Following in the immortal words of Dr. Carl Sagan, my mentor and hero (
Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep thoughts can be winnowed from deep nonsense.
Just in case you missed it in my signature line. Still, it is such a profound truth. The point of this thread is not my analysis techniques. It is
about Monarch Programming and whether it exists today. There are a lot of claims about the methods that are used to program a human being. But there
are seemingly none which support the mechanics to explain how these claims are possible. As a scientist, I cannot go to my fellow colleagues making
wild, fantastic claims and not provide the supporting research to show how I came to my conclusion. Science must be repeatable and clearly delineated
or it is not "science" at all. The theories of Wheeler, Springmeier, and others seem very plausible until you hold them up to the filter of human
physiology. Human cells and DNA are very individuated. This is why you have so many varied side effects of medication and it is so well documented
that "what works for one individual doesn't work for everyone." The human brain is the least understood organ in the body, as well as the one
which receives the most funding for research. To say that a secret, finite group of scientists were able to successfully "program a person like a
computer" back in the 50's and 60's when we don't even possess the medical understanding to do that with today's knowledge and technology is
laughable. And MY BELIEF that they were truly unsuccessful in these attempts (and yes, I agree that they DID make attempts) is the reason why none of
these "whistleblowers" have ever been able to come forward with any scientific explanation of HOW this was accomplished physiologically in the
Furthermore, I personally know the process for how government funding for scientific research is done. I know this process intimately... Because
such funding is so highly competitive, there are clear milestones that MUST be met and progress maintained or those dollars will disappear like the
Australian drought. Happens to scientists all the time....even those working on research related to defense because for every scientist with a good
theory, there are 10 more standing behind him with their own "good theories."
This is the way the world of science, research, and government operate. You want proof of that? It isn't so simple and easy to publish a white
paper on how that works...it is something you EXPERIENCE as you live it and other scientists will agree. However, making a claim such as the ones by
Wheeler and Springmeier CAN be documented, explained, and supported by a white paper because they are or should be concrete mechanisms. The
supposition that they don't exist seems to conclude it is because their underlying claims are nothing more than that....