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Australia has agreed to host a full US Marine task force in the coming years, Prime Minister Julia Gillard has announced at a news conference with US President Barack Obama in Canberra.
She said about 250 US Marines would arrive next year, eventually being built up to 2,500 personnel.
The deployment is being seen as a move to counter China's growing influence.
This article just revealed the contempt China and the US hold us in, have always held us in....more paternal bull#...and if I had my way we'd not trade with them at all. Neither has the right to this country. Trade or fade...but trade as equals.
Originally posted by borntowatch
Bye bye USA, not that it hasnt been good and all. You guys had your moment in the sun and now it has set on you its time to move on.
Its just business, it was with you guys as well remember. You dont have the coin we need so we dont lift our skirt to you any more.
Its global evolution and we are evolving. Hell we are more part of Asia than the the Americas or Europe anyway.
The sad part of this whole dance is the US government because of the people have mostly operated out of a moral sensitivity and the Chinese out of a moral vacuum. Chinas machine runs the people, where once the US people ran the machine that has changed to the machine running the people in the US now as well.
Its not really a change of systems, just eye shape and skin colour. (Being an Aussie I can spell colour with a U if I wish).
I wonder what the Chinese symbol is for colour?
Australia is not a State of the US, I just wish WA was not a state of Australia as well.
Originally posted by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS
WTf... since when were the Aussies sitting on the fence?
Their allegiance is to The US and Europe, no questions asked. China is just butt hurt because they invested so heavily in resources coming form Australia. Now, with their slowing economy, it is becoming a drag.
Choose your 'Godfather' pft.
Lets put it this way... they 100% choose the Red, White and Blue's, can you name those flags?
Can someone say... Common Wealth of Nations, Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, World Trade Organization(includes china, by default, but shows the strength in ties with others), Australia – United States Free Trade Agreement ...
Guess what hasn't gone through....Australia–China Free Trade Agreement
edit on 24-5-2012 by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS because: additional comment
Originally posted by Stagea
My uncle fought in the famous Korean battle of Kapyong. He was one of only a few Australian soldiers to receive an American medal for bravery. I also have family that have fought alongside Americans in Vietnam, and WWII.
To even suggest Australians would side with China over their long time ally America is total and utter BS! Would NEVER happen.
I am not talking about politicians. Both American and Australian (ALL of them the world over for that matter) are corrupt. I am talking about Australians, the people, the everyday folk. They will stand with America and their allies through thick and thin. Some Chinese general can (as they often do) say what he likes to promote himself to his own. Yes is can cause debate amongst those who ignorantly think Australians would side with China.
But this much I know. If China made one stupid move against America or its allies, you would have Australians volunteering by the hundreds of thousands to defend their friends. Not for political reasons, not because some politician says so, but because Australians have ALWAYS volunteered to fight alongside their mates! It is our way, it is what we do.
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
What have they done for you lately...I mean besides trying to push you around?
Originally posted by Germanicus
reply to post by Nspekta
We need to cut ties with the United States...China is our friend.
Originally posted by Rosha
Originally posted by mytheroy
They would probably cut all ties with Australia, No Money, goods, etc.
Every person remotely aware of what's going on in China right now, knows they are close to the weakest they have been in a century, not their strongest. Just as other places are, they are facing upheaval civilly and fiscally...hence they are buying up US bank shares etc...trying to gain grip and control over their demise like every other group of mad men and by moving into Africa trying to foresight new trade avenues, they aim to be 'world leaders' in a world that doesn't want to be led.. China, just like the rest of us, is only one foot from disaster. They need us as much as if not more than we need them..and so..they attack with words..trying to claim the power position. This is typical manipulation strategy and only a blind politician would cow tow to it. Some countries are so poor all they have is money. Let them eat it.
Originally posted by Nspekta
Originally posted by michaelbrux
reply to post by BobAthome
with so much confusion in the world it makes sense that you don't get it and that I can't really explain it.
the most basic element of the Nation or State is the concept of men and women joined in marriage.
personally, i think that no such ultimatum was ever given or that what was said has been spun to sound like something it wasn't...
the title of this thread means to me one of two things
1. China needs an answer from Australia on whether it wants to either be gay (bottom most certainly) with the United States or be straight with China.
2. China needs an answer from Australia on whether it wants to be straight with the United States or Lesbian with China.
if the title of this thread is correct...for some reason, Australia needs time to think through this as they are having some gender and sexual identity problems down under.