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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
Originally posted by Lionhearte
reply to post by AugustusMasonicus
Christians don't go door to door. Jehovah's Witnesses do.
Jehovah Witnesses are as much Christian as you are, if not more so
Uh, no they are not. They believe the Messiah is Michael not Jesus. Not to mention they removed several entire chapters concerning Christ's return in the flesh for the millenial reign and his physical resurrection. Mormons are not either, they believe Jesus came from outter space.
Originally posted by openminded2011
reply to post by network dude
I don't know if it qualifies as a cult, but it's not conventional Christianity. What bothers me is the cherry picking and revisionism that allows it to mesh with right wing ideology. Jesus was not pro war, pro death penalty anti poor anti gay. in tha way its anti Christian idealogy to say the least . Jesus spoke of the lambs and the goats in the last days, the lambs were the ones who were true Christians and the goats professed to be Christian and then do not follow his will. It says in the new testament that if you love God and yet hate your neighbor, the light of God is not in you.edit on 25-5-2012 by openminded2011 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Meh, there's tens of thousands of Messianic jews who would gladly take you up on that offer. But i will leave you with this.
It shall be the prince's duty to furnish the burnt offerings, cereal offerings, and drink offerings, at the feasts...he shall provide the sin offerings...to make atonement for the house of Israel...the priest shall take some of the blood of the sin offering...the prince shall provide for himself and all the people of the land a young bull; for a sin offering...the priests shall offer his [the prince's] peace offering...The burnt offerings that the prince offers to the Lord..."
If a prophet arises among you, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives you a sign or wonder, and the sign or wonder which he tells you comes to pass, and if he says "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us serve them," you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or to that dreamer of dreams; for the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him, and keep his commandments and obey his voice...that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God
And with the above word substitutions, I think you'll find Network Dude's point.
Originally posted by MarlboroRedCowgirl
I find it very funny that people looking from the outside can easily call
ChristianityFreemasonry a cult even though they have little to no knowledge of how most churcheslodges are. You have every right to have an opinion against the churchMasons, but defamation of that nature really isn't necessary.
Originally posted by KnawLick
Can't just be happy for your family members? Maybe they were sad and not getting fullfillment from that beer any longer. Maybe they found something to be proud of in their lives? Sounds to me that your just a selfish person who wants your family "your way" not the way that makes them most happy.
If your family members went to college and when they came back all they wanted to talk about was the plight of Africa and Halliburton (just examples) would that be okay because you agree with those? Just sounds like another self righteous rant to me...
Cults can occur inside of and outside a 'mainstream' religion (here I take it that the question is referring to the classical 'cults' whereby strong leaders have control over members of their group, rather than alternative definitions such as 'personality cults', or 'cults of devotion').
Three ideas seem essential to the concept of a cult.
1. Thinking in terms of us versus them with total alienation from "them."
2. The intense, though often subtle, indoctrination techniques used to recruit and hold members.
3. The charismatic cult leader. Cultism usually involves some sort of belief that outside the cult all is evil and threatening; inside the cult is the special path to salvation through the cult leader and his teachings.
The indoctrination techniques include:
Subjection to stress and fatigue;
Social disruption, isolation and pressure;
Self criticism and humiliation;
Fear, anxiety, and paranoia;
Control of information;
Use of auto-hypnosis to induce "peak" experiences
Cults are absent of the betterment of the individual person but rather than leader only. Cults try to subvert the human will with total and complete obedience to the leader of a group or sect