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Originally posted by Alxandro
Some Dallas Malls are cracking down on baggy hip hop pants.
Why should headscarves be any different?
Maybe in some fictional fantasyland, In an ideal world your solution could work, unfortunately the world is neither ideal nor people perfect. people are generally apathetic to such things. If it is closer, open and has what they intend to purchase few will travel further to get it because of some principled objection. This is why civil rights legislation was passed in the first place. People are irrational, business owners will willingly make less money to keep certain groups out. It is poor business sense but they will do it. Consumers don't typically want to be bothered with moral and policy issues to shop. It makes absolutely no sense to require someone to have to go out of their way or neighborhood to shop for groceries because some bigot had the resources to open a grocery store. It makes even less sense for that person to have to pay for the extra fuel to go out of their way to do so.
In my country there's a law that says you can't wear a mask in public because it makes it difficult to identify you.
The hell with the veil take it off you are in America plain and simpleor go back to your country to become oppressed again.
Originally posted by Migah
i just still dont understand how muslim women STAY muslim when coming to countries like america, or europe for that matter. the suppression of women in islam is pathetic. i live in denmark, and are starting to see DANISH girls turning muslim... thats fu*** up!
for the topic, though... why would she need to wear it inside anyways? lets make a list...
Primary function of clothes: keeping you warm
secondary function:
do i need to say more? sure, there's freedom of religion, but if i was in her country (sorry, but NO.. america is NOT her country), wearing crosses and walking around without a shirt, with my body full of christian/jewish tattoos, i would probably get executed.
i ACCEPT religion being here, but i refuse to RESPECT any religion, or any person, taking part in any religion.
when will the madness stop!? when will we get together and work together to FIND OUT the answers, instead of fighting about who has the right one. odds are... none of you are even close to being "right"
Originally posted by mysterioustranger
Good. If we went to her country, we would have to abide by their ways. Theyre here...so abide by ours.
The Right to Refuse Service: Can a Business Refuse Service to Someone Because of Appearance, Odor or Attitude?
Leanne Phillips - Oct 2007
Is it a violation of your civil rights for a business to refuse to serve you because of the way you look, the way you smell, or the way you act? The answer is...it depends.
The Federal Civil Rights Act guarantees all people the right to "full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin."
The right of public accommodation is also guaranteed to disabled citizens under the Americans with Disabilities Act, which precludes discrimination by businesses on the basis of disability.
In addition to the protections against discrimination provided under federal law, many states have passed their own Civil Rights Acts that provide broader protections than the Federal Civil Rights Act. For example, California's Unruh Civil Rights Act makes it illegal to discriminate against individuals based on unconventional dress or sexual preference.
In the 1960s, the Unruh Civil Rights Act was interpreted to provide broad protection from arbitrary discrimination by business owners. Cases decided during that era held that business owners could not discriminate, for example, against hippies, police officers, homosexuals, or Republicans, solely because of who they were.
Originally posted by MegaMind
So the mall is privately owned and therefore they have a right to ask her to leave ...
does this mean they could also ask ...
... women with children under 5 to leave?
... people with a BMI over 20 to leave?
... people over 35 to leave?
... people that are Black, White or Hispanic to leave?
... girls with tattoos showing just above their rear to leave?
How do YOU determine who can be discriminated against?
BTW does a bank robber not wear a mask, hat or sunglasses into a bank because its against policy?
Does wearing a hat and sunglasses in a bank suddenly make you want to rob the bank?
You know I could go into a bank armed to the teeth and I still wouldn't rob it ... think about it.
Clothes primarily serve to pacify the prudes and hide our sexuality, and secondarily serve as a form of self expression. They advertise who you are and what you stand for before you ever open your mouth.
Clothes are not necessarily important, but if someone chooses to wear a specific style of clothing that sends a message such as a religious preference or a biker attitude, then so be it.
Originally posted by XLR8R
reply to post by marg6043
I totally agree. It's the same in Canada. They flee their country because of all the oppression and war. They come to our countries and and bring the very customs which propagated the life style they were running away from.
Originally posted by exroyalnavy
reply to post by Flint2011
It is NOT against her Faith at all, but a cultural choice. It is her (or her husband's) way of saying that although they live in the West they want no part of our Society.