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Originally posted by schadenfreude
What bothers me the MOST about stories like this, is that they happen so often, no one bats an eye anymore.
Don't gloss over that, THINK about it. COPS GET AWAY WITH MURDER, on such a daily basis (or so it would appear) that it's "business as usual". Nothing to see here citizen, move along.
Really? Is this how far we've come as a society, that the MURDER of our fellow citizens by COPS is "no big deal"?
I grew up in the 70's, cops never pulled this kinda crap. I used to hang with my cousins, we'd pull upto a red light, car is full of weed smoke, (Unlike Clinton, I'll freely admit I did inhale. Twice) and in the next lane is a cop car.
Nobody got pulled out & beat up. Nobody got murdered. This kind of crap didn't happen TO THIS DEGREE forty years ago.
This BS HAS to stop!
Originally posted by butcherguy
Anyone that has read my posts in other police brutality/excessive force threads knows that I am not a cop supporter.
In this case, I believe that the cop should have shattered the window by another means if possible.
I do question why the woman rolled the window up on his arm and started driving away. That isn't exactly something that accidentally occurs. She made a conscious decision to trap his arm and drive away, thereby endangering his life.
I do not believe anyone should get a payoff for her extremely poor choices of action in this case.
I didn't realize that, thanks for enlightening me on that point. That changes everything.
Originally posted by MagesticEsoteric
Originally posted by butcherguy
Anyone that has read my posts in other police brutality/excessive force threads knows that I am not a cop supporter.
In this case, I believe that the cop should have shattered the window by another means if possible.
I do question why the woman rolled the window up on his arm and started driving away. That isn't exactly something that accidentally occurs. She made a conscious decision to trap his arm and drive away, thereby endangering his life.
I do not believe anyone should get a payoff for her extremely poor choices of action in this case.
According to two witnesses though, his arm wasn't trapped in the window. And, the model car she was driving didn't have automatic windows, it had the crank style.
In the past week in good old USA, one person received 90 bullets from a group of cops.
Originally posted by butcherguy
I didn't realize that, thanks for enlightening me on that point. That changes everything.
Originally posted by MagesticEsoteric
Originally posted by butcherguy
Anyone that has read my posts in other police brutality/excessive force threads knows that I am not a cop supporter.
In this case, I believe that the cop should have shattered the window by another means if possible.
I do question why the woman rolled the window up on his arm and started driving away. That isn't exactly something that accidentally occurs. She made a conscious decision to trap his arm and drive away, thereby endangering his life.
I do not believe anyone should get a payoff for her extremely poor choices of action in this case.
According to two witnesses though, his arm wasn't trapped in the window. And, the model car she was driving didn't have automatic windows, it had the crank style.
I wonder now if she did start driving or not, but if his arm wasn't trapped he had NO reason to even pull his weapon, much less fire it.
In that event, the municipality needs to pay. Maybe they will start to think about who they are hiring, or maybe they will not be able to afford a police force at all. Citizens are better off without them when they do this kind of crap.edit on 25-5-2012 by butcherguy because: To add.
Originally posted by Dynamike
reply to post by stirling
You cant stereotype all cops for one incident especially since there is still only speculation. It would be like saying all black people need to be replaced after one commits a crime. Or its like saying all Priests need to be replaced after one molests a boy. Or all football players need to be replaced after one fights a dog. Or all soldiers need to be replaced after one shoots random innocent people. Those are all real people too aren't they?
Originally posted by muzzleflash
So if I become a cop do I get to kill anyone I want for whatever reason too?
Apparently....
Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst
In the past week in good old USA, one person received 90 bullets from a group of cops.
I didn't see that story yet. I would be interested in seeing it though if you have a link.
90 rounds. Sounds like someone got a little excited and forgot to stop shooting, reloaded and forgot to stop shooting again.... and again.
Originally posted by groingrinder
reply to post by godfather420
One of these days there will be a person in the crowd with a radio jammer and the crowd will realize that there will not be reinforcements. Then perhaps we will see these power hungry gestapo thugs get what they dish out.
I am constantly surprised there are not more random shootings of law enforcement.
The police have proven they cannot police themselves. Every police agency needs an independent civilian oversight panel chosen from the property owners in the county in question.edit on 5-25-2012 by groingrinder because: Edited to add words.
Originally posted by Cassius666
The problem is a lot of good cops covering up for a few bad apples.