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Iran: Discovery will NOT collapse Christianity

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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 01:14 PM
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meaning Allah is the only God and Mohammad his prophet


You only have to read this, to know for sure that it's a forgery. Because any prophecy doesn't mention anyone by name ...




posted on May, 24 2012 @ 01:18 PM
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Would be interesting if this affects the tourism industry.

I'm sure many ppl are striking it off the options of potential destinations.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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israelmatzav.blogspot.mx... -un-says-iran.html

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A report to the UN 'human rights council' claims that Iran is executing 'enemies of Islam,' a term that is apparently meant to consist largely of believing Christians.
[Former Maldives foreign minister and current UN investigator Ahmed] Shaheed was delivering his first report to the UN’s 47- nation Human Rights Council on the rights situation in the country since being appointed last year. Tehran dismissed it as a “compilation of baseless allegations.”

“It is with great concern that I report the significant increase in the rate of executions in Iran from 200 in mid-September 2011 to over 600 executions by the end of the year,” Shaheed told the council.

By December 31, 421 executions had been announced and 249 secret ones had been reported to him by sources inside and outside the country.

Iran’s persecution of Pastor Yousef Nadarkhani, who has been sentenced to death for creating a home-based church and questioning compulsory Islamic education for his children, surfaced in Shaheed’s statements.

In a report on the website of the Washington-based American Center for Law & Justice, Tiffany Barrans, the group’s international legal director, who is in Geneva, wrote while Shaheed did not mention the pastor’s case in his new report, he had urged Iran’s authorities to consider the release of “Pastor Yousef Nadarkhani who has been sentenced to death for apostasy....”




posted on May, 24 2012 @ 02:22 PM
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Israelmatzva as proof of whatever you are tryign to say?

why dont you just actually say soemthing instead of copy and paste???

fastidious man! We actually (try to) try harder here!



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by EnochWasRight

Love is the point. God is LOVE.


Several years ago a young girl was playing on the beach, on a sand dune. The sand dune collapsed and the girl suffocated to death. A more horrible way to suffocate I cannot conceive. Your god of love watched this happen, had the power to intervene and didn't.

I do not care what BS excuses you invent for gods lack of interaction but I for one do not believe such a being (if they exist )deserves anything more than utter contempt for they way they behave, the excuses it gives for sitting there watching. God of love....no way. God of contemptable gloating.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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So you think taht if God exists then the world must be Utopia?

No my friend.

There isnt a hell with fire and a heaven with pearly gates either.....


I do think some people base the non-God theory with theories that you must have a lot of faith for to think they can actually be realistic.

God is many things. God is also the one who destroys. The Hindus make God into many many mini Gods when they should all be just one God with many names.




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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by yorkshirelad

Originally posted by EnochWasRight

Love is the point. God is LOVE.


Several years ago a young girl was playing on the beach, on a sand dune. The sand dune collapsed and the girl suffocated to death. A more horrible way to suffocate I cannot conceive. Your god of love watched this happen, had the power to intervene and didn't.

I do not care what BS excuses you invent for gods lack of interaction but I for one do not believe such a being (if they exist )deserves anything more than utter contempt for they way they behave, the excuses it gives for sitting there watching. God of love....no way. God of contemptable gloating.


People die, kids suffer, death is had by each and everyone of us..... Period. If there were no death we would not have this converstaion. There is a lot of pain to endure. What if the little girl chose her own death to this world and that was what she wanted? There are lessons to be had for not only us in the now but for the future generations. Everyone makes sacrifices and some to their earthy death.

Why does everyone want to blame others for their own actions? Where does that leave free will and accountability. How would your life here be if god intervened all the time? It is not up to me or anyone else to convince you there is a loving being beyond the horizon. We have guides that help guide us and if it is not meant to be we survive a certain accident then its just the way it is.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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we blame others because we are afraid of each other!



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by azulejo
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we blame others because we are afraid of each other!


Maybe so... Maybe it is because it is easier to point the finger at someone else. Pride gets in the way.

I have watched a child suffer for years and die, grown men be scared at the moment of last breath. Its not easy accepting what we can no longer see. Just because we do not see that loved one anymore does not mean they are no longer there. This to me is logic..... Common sense..... NOW. Ten years ago I saw life a bit more hazy and obscure. Growing in spirit is where its at....happiness and peace that is. If we dont grow in spirit we whither and die and become sick, death knocks. Why? Because our bodies sense we need to go home before the spirit decays to the point of no return. Physics has taught me a lot about life and death and so has each ancient text I have read, not to mention people like the Op whom I learn from. It seems as though people get offensive when speaking aout God because they do not have the understanding yet. If one does not seek the understanding with an open heart this will never change and the opportunity to grow will be null and void. Hence this experience of life on Earth will be done n vain.... All my opinion of course.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 06:05 PM
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Some ppl forget that man has turned away from God of their own free will. That they have to suffer their choice as it is theirs to make. Seek him and you shall find!



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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www.answering-islam.org...

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The Gospel of Barnabas is not an authentic Gospel of Jesus. The author does not understand the language, history or geography of the 1st century A.D., and there is no ancient evidence for the book. The internal evidence of the book suggests it was written in the 14th century, and there are Muslim scholars who agree with this dating. The book is a rewrite of the Biblical Gospel most likely by a Muslim who wanted to portray Jesus as a Muslim who taught Islam and predicted the coming of Muhammad. This type of rewriting has been done elsewhere by Muslims in the Gospel According to Islam. It is disgraceful for Islamic leaders to continue to publish, promote and distribute this false Scripture. It is disgraceful for them to create this deliberate confusion and make mischief.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 06:47 PM
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when you gonna make an ats thread sir


I figured someone else already had to have. I doubt i am the first person to ever stumble into this reading from the scriptures. What came before is coming again. .



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
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Furthermore Muhammad isn't even prophecied anywhere in the bible


Isaiah 42.

Kedar and the wilderness.... the shaming of the idolaters... it all points towards Mohammad... who was the light of the gentiles as described.



Nope, if you read the entire chapter in context, it is Yeshua (Jesus) the chapter is about not Muhammad.

Isaiah 42: 1-9

1“Behold! My Servant whom I uphold,
My Elect One in whom My soul delights!
I have put My Spirit upon Him;
He will bring forth justice to the Gentiles.
2 He will not cry out, nor raise His voice,
Nor cause His voice to be heard in the street.
3 A bruised reed He will not break,
And smoking flax He will not quench;
He will bring forth justice for truth.
4 He will not fail nor be discouraged,
Till He has established justice in the earth;
And the coastlands shall wait for His law.”

5 Thus says God the Lord,
Who created the heavens and stretched them out,
Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it,
Who gives breath to the people on it,
And spirit to those who walk on it:
6 “I, the Lord, have called You in righteousness,
And will hold Your hand;
I will keep You and give You as a covenant to the people,
As a light to the Gentiles,
7 To open blind eyes,
To bring out prisoners from the prison,
Those who sit in darkness from the prison house.
8 I am the Lord, that is My name;
And My glory I will not give to another,
Nor My praise to carved images.
9 Behold, the former things have come to pass,
And new things I declare;
Before they spring forth I tell you of them.”

Muhammad was not "The Elect One".

Btw Isaiah prophecied exclusively about Yeshua.

Isaiah 53:1-9

Who has believed our report?
And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant,
And as a root out of dry ground.
He has no form or comeliness;
And when we see Him,
There is no beauty that we should desire Him.
3 He is despised and rejected by men,
A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.
And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him;
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.

4 Surely He has borne our griefs
And carried our sorrows;
Yet we esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten by God, and afflicted.
5 But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He opened not His mouth;
He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,
And as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
So He opened not His mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment,
And who will declare His generation?
For He was cut off from the land of the living;
For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.
9 And they made His grave with the wicked—
But with the rich at His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was any deceit in His mouth.[.b]

The scriptures were originally in uninterrupted scroll form and all read as one entire "book", it's all about the prophecied ONE. This last part in bold "Nor was there any deceit in his mouth", that is one of the many scriptures that excludes Muhammad. Wishful thinking bro, Muhammad is nowhere in there.
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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 08:37 PM
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Mao’s Cultural Revolution was one of the darkest chapters of the 20th Century: communist zealots, known as “the Red Guards,” attached revolutionary messages to Buddhist statues; seventeen professors from the Shanghai Music Conservatory committed suicide; intellectuals were harassed in public trials during which they had to confess their “sins,” kneeling on makeshift rostrums; thousands of churches, temples and monasteries were demolished; ancient libraries went up in smoke; imperial ceramics were smashed and religious relics melted down. Millions of people were killed.

A new Cultural Revolution is now taking place in the Middle East, where Islam’s Red Guards are obliterating the non-Muslim heritage. If Mao’s Guards took inspiration from the “red book,” Islamic zealots have the Koran. Their targets are Jewish shrines, Christian churches, ancient monuments and cultural masterpieces.

A few days ago in Timbuktu, Mali, Islamists destroyed the tomb of a Sufi saint, Sidi Mahmoud Ben Amar. Timbuktu is known as “the city of the 333 saints”, classified as Unesco World Heritage Sites. Sufism is a mystical dimension of Islam, but extremists believe Sufi shrines are “sacrilegious.” The UN cultural body didn’t raise its voice against this Islamic iconoclasm.




A few weeks before, Abdulaziz ibn Abdullah Al al-Sheikh, the grand mufti of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, issued a religious fatwa, saying it is “necessary to destroy all the churches in the Arabian Peninsula.” The most important Muslim cleric in the land that gave birth to Islam called for the destruction of churches without his rule attracting any global condemnation




posted on May, 24 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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Yes it is a very good conspiracy that really needs to be open up some more



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Bacon was not created by men, it was discovered that we can cook it, technically speaking.

But f people really think this'll collapse Christianity, think again. Christians believe what they want to believe, and nothing else matters. No amount of facts (not that this new discovery is a fact) will convince a true believer to change their mind.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Bacon was not created by men, it was discovered that we can cook it, technically speaking.

But f people really think this'll collapse Christianity, think again. Christians believe what they want to believe, and nothing else matters. No amount of facts (not that this new discovery is a fact) will convince a true believer to change their mind.


These are not facts, just some joe smoe created thing.

It was made during the era of Islam too. Also, it was made during the era of mandeans, (john the baptist woreshipers) which is the same year as islam.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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Honestly, read the Koran, it claims that Jews have a conspricy, changed the word in their bible and gave it to the gentile for a fix price. Then they # on the trinity, which is interesting thinking.

And I dont remember Christ poopin on anyone, not even gays



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 09:09 PM
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Nope, if you read the entire chapter in context, it is Yeshua (Jesus) the chapter is about not Muhammad.


I am reading the entire chapter in context.... I just highlighted the parts which were very specific about places pertaining to Mohammad and things that Mohammad did. Isaiah 42 is unique in the sense, it refers to certain places and events.


Verse 11... Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices; let the settlements where Kedar lives rejoice.
- This is a specific reference to Arabia. Jesus had nothing to do with Arabia.

Verse 17... But those who trust in idols, who say to images, ‘You are our gods,’ will be turned back in utter shame.
- A very specific reference to Mohammad's ending of idolatry.


Verses 11 and 17 were not arbitrarily put there, were they?
If its not Mohammad, then which Biblical prophet was involved with Arabia AND shamed the idolaters? That's a pretty objective way of identifying the servant of Isaiah 42.
We know for a fact that Jesus wasn't involved with Kedar and the wilderness...nor did he shame any idolater. The only biblical character ever involved with Kedar and the wilderness, i.e Arabia... was Paul. And we know Paul did not do anything to "shame the idolaters".

So that prophecy, along with the others.... could have only been fulfulled by Mohammad.

P.S - Isaiah 53 has nothing to do with the one being prophecied in Isaiah 42. Even if it did foretell Jesus, it does not mean Jesus fulfilled Isaiah 42.



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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 09:14 PM
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Either way, i dont woreship a Man. And even though, I believe that jesus was incarnate God, He still wanted us to woreship the true God above himself too, not just some fleshy form

p.s jesus went into wildenress
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